Second Life Forums Archive - Where are all the good men?

Aodhan McDunnough

Gearhead

Join date: 29 Mar 2006

Posts: 1,518

06-02-2006 18:24

I'm a roleplayer, but I'm not RPing in SL, just having fun.

As a roleplayer I don't really mind if your avatar is one gender and you turn out to be another gender. Besides, when one is a GM in a tabletop RPG one has to play *everything* (men, women, cars, computers, animals) ... and SL is one big 24/7 masquerade, let everyone be whoever or whatever they want (be a table lamp if you want).

But just like Jonquille, I won't be happy if one foists lies when speaking about their real self. It would be better to not bring it up at all.

In some MMOGs I've played I see people hitting on others completely forgetting that the person on the other end may be of a different gender from the avatar. I hear of females playing male avatars just so they can play in peace and not get hit on. In my vincinity such behavior is not uncommon enough for my tastes.

Kiamat Dusk

Protest Warrior

Join date: 30 Sep 2004

Posts: 1,525

06-02-2006 20:55

From: Jonquille Noir

I also don't care if someone is playing another gender, ethnicity, age.. etc etc. Makes no difference to me at all.

However, if someone is going on with elaborate 'RL' stories and then turns out to be someone completely different, I would most likely write them off. Not because of their gender, but because I don't care to hang out with liars. I don't ask for personal information, so there's no reason to make it up other than enjoying lying.

I agree completely. Once it goes RL you have an ethical obligation to inform the other party.

-Kiamat Dusk

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"Anger is a gift." -RATM "Freedom"

From: Vares Solvang

Eat me, you vile waste of food.

(Can you spot the irony?)

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Josie McGann

Professional Cat-Herder

Join date: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 34

06-18-2006 01:35

From: Brenda Archer

I guess it's just me...

I honestly don't give a flying fig.

The first guy I dated in SL, generally presents hirself in SL as a lesbian. I could see through this easily (being RL female helps with that) and I still did not mind. Because she has been a true friend in every way. And did eventually tell me her situation anyway. And damn, her female avie is HAWT. (you know who you are

The second guy I dated in SL, I knew to be male because he had been DJ at a club I was at. Also has a very nice voice I think.... and easily one of the most effortlessly butch avatars I've ever met. This is all wonderful, but both of these guys are dear to me, you see.

The third guy I dated in SL, seems quite masculine, but I have no proof, I'm sure if he sees this he'll be rolling around on the floor laughing, he knows, of course. LOL

Am I atypical to not care in the slightest whether the avie and the player have the same gender?
Or is it my by bi bias showing? LOL

I'm with you Brenda. To me personally, its irrelevant. I do think that decieving people that it *does* matter to is wrong no matter what gender-combination is wrong.

Sl relationships are like RL relationships in that one set of standards does not apply to all relationships. Myself, I accept that whatever a person presents in SL is what they want me to see and I take or leave people on their own merits. I'm not looking to take a realationship beyond SL - so as long as I like the other person, everything is fine

And I'm lucky enough to have someone in--world that I like VERY much, so this is not a big issue for me

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~Josie McGann

Selador Cellardoor

Registered User

Join date: 16 Nov 2003

Posts: 3,082

06-18-2006 04:37

From: Warda Kawabata

I'm still wondering where the good women are.

I doubt I'm one, but that's because I think I'm loopy.

LOL - some of the most interesting women I have met have been loopy.

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Wrom Morrison

Validated User

Join date: 15 Apr 2006

Posts: 462

06-18-2006 05:57

Lol does she know that gay men arn't sexually interested in straight women?! By definition (like dictionary). Yes, I'd like to be fairly obvious to obviously obvious OP posts.

PS: You might like this site.

Angelique LaFollette

Registered User

Join date: 17 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,595

06-18-2006 13:33

From: Colette Meiji

Just put on your profile that you are a lesbian

More straight men will IM you trying to get you to go out with them then you can count.

=p

God she's SO right. Some men Love a Challenge, and see my sexuality as the Mount Everest of Dating. I Like men, I just Don't have any desire for them.

But then, the Original Question was a Search for GOOD men. The Good ones Don't try to make of you something you are Not.

Keep looking Ma Chere, and Don't "Settle" or "Make Do".
There Are good ones out there.

Angel.

Stevan Hubbard

Registered User

Join date: 24 Jun 2006

Posts: 1

06-30-2006 18:46

From: Euterpe Roo

Frankly, "real" and "good" men are probably not what you are looking for. Many "real" and "good" men are gay or bi, and all "real" and "good" men are not abusive neanderthals.

Try this: go have some fun doing what you like to do. You will, no doubt, meet tons of wonderful people (men and women) as a delightful side effect.

I'm not sure if i folow you here. But my uinderstand is that you say that the decent guys are
A) gay
B) non existent
C) not extremely abusive...

I'm don't know your history, but that is simply not true.

cheers

Tod69 Talamasca

The Human Tripod ;)

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 4,107

06-30-2006 18:58

From: Elinea Richard

Where all the good men in SL? I know there are some real men out there, you know the ones who are not gay or bi or whatever, its just i cant seem to find them. If you think you know where to find such men please tell me here or IM me in world. Thank you in advance.

If it hasnt been said already:

Men are like Parking Spaces. All the good ones are taking & the rest are Handicapped.

Einsman Schlegel

Disenchanted Fool

Join date: 11 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,461

06-30-2006 19:00

Bah, we all know the simple facts about women online:

Theyre either, RL married, or they're men.

As far as men go:
We're all sluts

Androclese Torgeson

I've got nothin'

Join date: 11 May 2004

Posts: 144

06-30-2006 19:08

From: Androclese Antonelli

I'm here, but I'm married. (in RL)

Sorry.

I got my old name back, but I'm still a good man and still married.

Sorry.

_____________________

Androclese Torgeson

Real Life, also known as "that big room with the ceiling that is sometimes blue and sometimes black with little lights"

Lupus Delacroix

Wyrm Raider

Join date: 3 May 2006

Posts: 695

07-01-2006 10:47

From: Stevan Hubbard

I'm not sure if i folow you here. But my uinderstand is that you say that the decent guys are
A) gay
B) non existent
C) not extremely abusive...

I'm don't know your history, but that is simply not true.

cheers

Don't forget that the real answer to her question is "You just jumped over 10 of them to land on an asshole"

Devlin Gallant

Thought Police

Join date: 18 Jun 2003

Posts: 5,948

07-01-2006 10:49

Quick! Someone grab a stake and hammer! This thread has risen from the grave!!

_____________________

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Hayden Rayner

Registered User

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 4

Wtf

07-01-2006 21:58

What is wrong with gay men!!! Im GAY!!!! and HAPPY!

Where are all the good men?
Aodhan McDunnough Gearhead Join date: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 1,518	06-02-2006 18:24 I'm a roleplayer, but I'm not RPing in SL, just having fun. As a roleplayer I don't really mind if your avatar is one gender and you turn out to be another gender. Besides, when one is a GM in a tabletop RPG one has to play everything (men, women, cars, computers, animals) ... and SL is one big 24/7 masquerade, let everyone be whoever or whatever they want (be a table lamp if you want). But just like Jonquille, I won't be happy if one foists lies when speaking about their real self. It would be better to not bring it up at all. In some MMOGs I've played I see people hitting on others completely forgetting that the person on the other end may be of a different gender from the avatar. I hear of females playing male avatars just so they can play in peace and not get hit on. In my vincinity such behavior is not uncommon enough for my tastes.
Kiamat Dusk Protest Warrior Join date: 30 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,525	06-02-2006 20:55 From: Jonquille Noir I also don't care if someone is playing another gender, ethnicity, age.. etc etc. Makes no difference to me at all. However, if someone is going on with elaborate 'RL' stories and then turns out to be someone completely different, I would most likely write them off. Not because of their gender, but because I don't care to hang out with liars. I don't ask for personal information, so there's no reason to make it up other than enjoying lying. I agree completely. Once it goes RL you have an ethical obligation to inform the other party. -Kiamat Dusk _____________________ "My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape." -Bret Easton Ellis 'American Psycho' "Anger is a gift." -RATM "Freedom" From: Vares Solvang Eat me, you vile waste of food. (Can you spot the irony?) http://writing.com/authors/suffer
Josie McGann Professional Cat-Herder Join date: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 34	06-18-2006 01:35 From: Brenda Archer I guess it's just me... I honestly don't give a flying fig. The first guy I dated in SL, generally presents hirself in SL as a lesbian. I could see through this easily (being RL female helps with that) and I still did not mind. Because she has been a true friend in every way. And did eventually tell me her situation anyway. And damn, her female avie is HAWT. (you know who you are The second guy I dated in SL, I knew to be male because he had been DJ at a club I was at. Also has a very nice voice I think.... and easily one of the most effortlessly butch avatars I've ever met. This is all wonderful, but both of these guys are dear to me, you see. The third guy I dated in SL, seems quite masculine, but I have no proof, I'm sure if he sees this he'll be rolling around on the floor laughing, he knows, of course. LOL Am I atypical to not care in the slightest whether the avie and the player have the same gender? Or is it my by bi bias showing? LOL I'm with you Brenda. To me personally, its irrelevant. I do think that decieving people that it does matter to is wrong no matter what gender-combination is wrong. Sl relationships are like RL relationships in that one set of standards does not apply to all relationships. Myself, I accept that whatever a person presents in SL is what they want me to see and I take or leave people on their own merits. I'm not looking to take a realationship beyond SL - so as long as I like the other person, everything is fine And I'm lucky enough to have someone in--world that I like VERY much, so this is not a big issue for me _____________________ ~Josie McGann
Selador Cellardoor Registered User Join date: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 3,082	06-18-2006 04:37 From: Warda Kawabata I'm still wondering where the good women are. I doubt I'm one, but that's because I think I'm loopy. LOL - some of the most interesting women I have met have been loopy. _____________________
Wrom Morrison Validated User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 462	06-18-2006 05:57 Lol does she know that gay men arn't sexually interested in straight women?! By definition (like dictionary). Yes, I'd like to be fairly obvious to obviously obvious OP posts. PS: You might like this site.
Angelique LaFollette Registered User Join date: 17 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,595	06-18-2006 13:33 From: Colette Meiji Just put on your profile that you are a lesbian More straight men will IM you trying to get you to go out with them then you can count. =p God she's SO right. Some men Love a Challenge, and see my sexuality as the Mount Everest of Dating. I Like men, I just Don't have any desire for them. But then, the Original Question was a Search for GOOD men. The Good ones Don't try to make of you something you are Not. Keep looking Ma Chere, and Don't "Settle" or "Make Do". There Are good ones out there. Angel.
Stevan Hubbard Registered User Join date: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 1	06-30-2006 18:46 From: Euterpe Roo Frankly, "real" and "good" men are probably not what you are looking for. Many "real" and "good" men are gay or bi, and all "real" and "good" men are not abusive neanderthals. Try this: go have some fun doing what you like to do. You will, no doubt, meet tons of wonderful people (men and women) as a delightful side effect. I'm not sure if i folow you here. But my uinderstand is that you say that the decent guys are A) gay B) non existent C) not extremely abusive... I'm don't know your history, but that is simply not true. cheers
Tod69 Talamasca The Human Tripod ;) Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,107	06-30-2006 18:58 From: Elinea Richard Where all the good men in SL? I know there are some real men out there, you know the ones who are not gay or bi or whatever, its just i cant seem to find them. If you think you know where to find such men please tell me here or IM me in world. Thank you in advance. If it hasnt been said already: Men are like Parking Spaces. All the good ones are taking & the rest are Handicapped.
Einsman Schlegel Disenchanted Fool Join date: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,461	06-30-2006 19:00 Bah, we all know the simple facts about women online: Theyre either, RL married, or they're men. As far as men go: We're all sluts
Androclese Torgeson I've got nothin' Join date: 11 May 2004 Posts: 144	06-30-2006 19:08 From: Androclese Antonelli I'm here, but I'm married. (in RL) Sorry. I got my old name back, but I'm still a good man and still married. Sorry. _____________________ Androclese Torgeson Real Life, also known as "that big room with the ceiling that is sometimes blue and sometimes black with little lights"
Lupus Delacroix Wyrm Raider Join date: 3 May 2006 Posts: 695	07-01-2006 10:47 From: Stevan Hubbard I'm not sure if i folow you here. But my uinderstand is that you say that the decent guys are A) gay B) non existent C) not extremely abusive... I'm don't know your history, but that is simply not true. cheers Don't forget that the real answer to her question is "You just jumped over 10 of them to land on an asshole"
Devlin Gallant Thought Police Join date: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 5,948	07-01-2006 10:49 Quick! Someone grab a stake and hammer! This thread has risen from the grave!! _____________________ I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
Hayden Rayner Registered User Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 4	Wtf 07-01-2006 21:58 What is wrong with gay men!!! Im GAY!!!! and HAPPY!

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