Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Doesn't this fly in the face of your earlier comments of PIOF being an alternative for age verification though?

PIOF = gave payment info but never purchased any L$.

The only clear and objective definition of 'adult' throughout most of the world is legal age, usually 18+

All other definitions of 'adult' are subjective, arbitrary and problematic.

Good luck.

What will happen if i provide the last 4 numbers of my ssn or my Driver's license number?

PIOF is an alternative for age verification for the purpose of "Adult" sim and continent access. They haven't announced any change to the existing separate checkboxes for PI or AV.

Ok thanks. I did not think it would be that simple or that they would differentiate such a thing.

What is the purpose for telling everyone in SL whether or not i am PIOF or PIU by it being displayed in my profile?

PIOF is an alternative for age verification for the purpose of "Adult" sim and continent access. They haven't announced any change to the existing separate checkboxes for PI or AV.

That one always puzzled me too.

A random number generator will decide if you are verified..

Just tested!

Under current implementation.

An Unverfied NPIOF account
"CAN" access group land with both Do Not allow access check boxes enabled.

They've also talked about having a payment record - do we know if PIOF but not PIU is 'verified'?

Blondin,

Thank you for answering my question, #7. There is still no official clear definition of Adult Content, that I know of. However any place that has sex that people can walk into is safe to say is "Adult" as per you answer to question #4. If you came to my property, as I requested in the notecard, to answer some questions you would have seen that my "public" areas do have sex toys in place anyone can use. But my sensor logs aren't showing any Linden visiting. So I am left to assume you just looked at the property description and made a judgment. I made my original description to help set an atmosphere. It wasn't screaming SEX. Part of the human condition is that romance can lead to sexuality. I have had in place for majority of the life of my build, sex furniture in common areas. I have a Massage room, and shower, both with sex engines in them. A steam room with sex engined benches. I have stripper tables and poles in public areas. I have a picnic blanket in a secluded spot that has a sex engine in it. These items have been used. The Cabins I rent have sex beds and other sex furniture in them as a courtesy. I also have adult movie players that guests in the cabins can use.

I suggest you go check out showcase place, Tempura, went exploring there with a friend and we accidentally walked in upon a couple having sex. Their description was not come have sex but it is there if you want it. So much for predictability. This is very similar to the environment i have created in my Sim.

The term existing builds suggests, to me, that its going to be LL's policy to decide something wasn't there before this proposal. Therefore making it so the land owner won't be considered an "Adult Business" Then be opened it up to be AR fodder if they don't remove things that were previously acceptable under the term Mature, or be forced to pay the surely high land costs and extra tiers on the "Adult" continent. By the way, my property has been flagged Mature from the start. Since i realized i can flag it as "Adult" in the ad i have moved it to that category. The only way someone could and can find it is having their, Include Mature Content check box selected. Or through people that have put my place into their picks.

Further on existing builds, I have been focusing on owning all the land in my Sim as it comes available. Why not, I get charged for a full Sim anyway. I don't want to have parcels in multiple Sims, I want to be able to use the prims as necessary, where some builds need more than others. I don't go out of my way to push neighbors out, but usually as soon as the property goes for sale I jump on it. What I am assuming that this implies, is that I should stop buying land. Because if i don't, it may not be considered when the march to the "Adult" land is implemented. But then if i don't have a full Sim I will likely pay a premium for that land on "Adultopia". What a conundrum. I will take back the land I have allowed friends to use, will that be considered as part of my existing parcel?

My intentions with the land was never to be totally a "sex club" it was intended to be a place to come relax, be with friends and if things lead to it have sex.

My Original land description: "The Lodge is an adult only facility. Have a romantic outing with that special someone, or meet that someone. Dance, swim, relaxing environment. Cabins for rent. "

I used to have a fully stocked dungeon in the basement of my build, I have since moved it to a sky box. This area was intended to be used as a social area, and sex club. I spent a couple months building it, and its construction came to a halt when I read about the Adult continent move. I have since amended my land description to be more Direct, forget about creating an atmosphere.

New Land description: "The Lodge is an "Adult" Only facility. A relaxing environment, Gay, straight, BDSM community, all are welcome, "EXCEPT" child play as i have stated this is Adults only. Dance, swim, fish, games, adult games, Gay Sex playroom, community, cabins for rent"

I cannot make the area sold to me and pay monthly fees for "My world, My Imagination" as things stand now. I hope Linden Labs comes up with answers, soon.

I just checked.

I have an alt that i have never used to purchase linden or ever put a credit card on file. I just Age Verified that account and logged into SL and it says "Payment Info Used".

Various beta testers have been telling Linden Lab that for over a year now.

In the current implementation, we have seen cases where two identical avatars, both verified by the same user and using the same ID info, approached a parcel that was age-locked, and one could get in, while the other couldn't. We have also seen cases where an avatar that had NEVER neen age-verified could walk right onto an age-locked parcel, while someone who HAD verified and who had successfully accessed other age-locked parcels could NOT walk into the parcel that the unverified avatar just violated access for.

This is WHY so many people refursed to flag land as "Adult when they rolled out the Aristotle stuff in the initial Beta. It did not work reliably even for those individuals who DID all the verification steps! And LL has NEVER fixed those problems!

I just checked.

I have an alt that i have never used to purchase linden or ever put a credit card on file. I just Age Verified that account and logged into SL and it says "Payment Info Used".

What is the purpose for telling everyone in SL whether or not i am PIOF or PIU by it being displayed in my profile?

Jeesus.

What is the difference between Payment Info Used and Payment Info on File???

5) Odd question: For those who apply, go through the review, and are found NOT to meet the criteria for moving, will there be some sort of safeguard or rubber stamp or whatever declaring them safe so that a more conservative Linden cant come along the next week and declare the exact same content too adult for Mainland?
ANSWER: If we succeed in the effort to provide clear definitions as to what qualifies as Adult content, this kind of ambiguity should be well mitigated. In the event of a review stemming from an AR, previous action related to the account would be noted, and these notes would be reviewed by the person handling the AR. Considering the dynamic nature of content, and even what the community perceives as Adult, it is not likely a stamp of approval would be effective or credible.

Landowner: "But LL, I submitted that this parcel was too Adult for a Mature continent, and you said it wasn't Adult enough for Ursula."

LL: "Yes."

Landowner: "What do you mean 'yes'? Now you tell me I have to move, when you just told me I *couldn't*?"

LL: "You were prematurely correct."

cool! did you go on a spending spree since it's someone elses money???

If PIOF is an alternative then logic should dictate that PIOF = AV, shouldn't it?

That's a question I've been asking for a few years, and never got an answer that didn't make me feel comfortable... and a few that made me feeling downright manky.

Consider the implications of the part I highlight below:
In other words, even if LL doesn't find your parcel smutty enough to qualify for the Ursula land-swap, there's no guarantee that they can't turn right around and force you to buy land on Ursula at speculator-inflated auction prices, just because somebody purportedly AR'd your left-behind content.

Oh, it's simple. SL is just as hierarchical as RL - maybe more so. Here is the pecking order:

2002, 2003 Charter Member = Gods
2003, 2004, 2005 = Archangels

Hey Everyone. I wanted to send a heads up that the 8 Questions/Answers probably won't get done tomorrow or Friday and the next set of 8 will most like come on Monday.

At the end of every quarter, we have what we call Rom Day. Basically, its the time when we do self evaluations, meeting with teams and managers, outline goals for the next quarter, and other organizational things. It'll be a little more difficult to get personal attention as everyone will be busy doing their Rom work. I hope that you all understand the absence here in the forum for the next few days and hope that this provides a bit of visibility into whats happening.