Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Well, the way SL is turning out, it's not much different anyways. Make a microphone that vibrates as the user sings, and find yourself banned by an AR happy prude who thinks you're carrying something phallic looking. That'll kill the creative juices really fast.

Who cares? The user doesn't care if the textures came from Photoshop, Magic texture Pixies, or Moon Men. They just use them and make stuff.
There's been absolutely no indication that Blue Mars will have any kind of in-world content creation tools. They have never mentioned anything about it in any of their announcements, and their developer web pages are all about out-of-world tools. But setting that aside... if I can't make that glider and GIVE YOU A COPY, and you go "Oh, cool, I love Nausicaa", without getting approved as a developer and setting up a store and sending you to the city my store is in... it doesn't matter.

Well for as many Argent Stonecutters existing inside SL, there are many other users that seek different aspirations from using SL......and it might have nothing to do with creating a "prim" on a right click. Just sampling my own residents on my own sims...the slight majority are not creative in any way....they RP happy families or are living there as a couple using to develop a SL (and maybe RL) relationships. You can't assume that everyone in SL is here to create "prims".....for example some prefer pixel sex gratification
and you'll find them mostly in Public Sex areas.....some like RP a Kajira on a Gorean sim. etc etc

As far as I understood their website, it is possible to create content, if one signed in for that additional. And in specific areas it is possible to sell the creations, small shops are available for rent. They have kind of a script language and the only new thing is, that they hold a strict industrial standard of tools. 3D tools. Maya and such. But beside the eventualy costs, no problem. What have we not all learned here? After some years SL it is no challenge, to use our maximized architect-brain to learn further, it's fun. BM is themed, but flexible for any increasment and growing, they said. But seems they have a strict eye on quality. Maybe there are building criterias, wich we don't have in SL. That could be difficult. In June we know more. The screenshots are amazing.

I honestly wonder if you're reading the same words that I wrote.

It's an alternative Wynochee....another 3D enviroment where you can walk, sit, fly, TP and communicate. I used World.com before i arrived in SL......i could do all the above functions well before SL was even dreamt up!. However on World.com i could not create and there wasn't an economy....BlueMars will have that in what is looking to be in a superior looking platform and possibly more stable too.

I'm not saying i will leave SL....but as a content creator i'd like to have
a Plan B.....so i prefer not to have all my eggs in one basket!

My guess is that short to medium term both my Land and Content businesses will suffer from LL's bizarre proposals despite not having any Adult content or Adult sims.

I will keep them all afloat as best as i can......but once it gets to a point where overall Costs > Sales, i will have to cut back........be it selling off SIMs or closing shops or abandoning commerical plots. I will try to keep my head above water! That's the best i can do.......in the meantime i will explore alternatives where i might have a chance to thrive even it means learning new programs to create.

Yes, i did read your replies......and once again, I'll say that not everyone that "plays" SL is a Argent Stonecutter!

You read the bit where I pointed out that I'm not talking about the benefits to creators, I'm talking about the benefits to "RP happy families" and "Kajiras in Gorean Sims"?

.....who all benefitted from the content produced by SL Avatars......yes, i'm aware LL has greatly benefitted from all the creations made by its user base.....without it, SL would most likely have been out of business long ago!

That said...BlueMars will also benefit from user content albeit via a different model & regulations. People are very innovative you know!

The only difference i can foresee is that BlueMars will kick Second Life's ass into touch....when it comes to quality! (and possibily stability)

That's the smartest thing anyone's said about Blue Mars in this thread. "Until it's released."

Look, my friends. Blue Mars is vaporware and a bunch of pretty videos. It's been that way for at least the two years I've been hearing about it.

Until there is actually a product, it's pretty useless to argue about what it will/won't/might have.

I say let's concentrate on the task at hand, to wit: getting LL to pay some attention to the cliff they are about to drive this bus over.

...because its different tech, not just another open source clone. Maybe they are extra cautious before releasing, having seen all the pitfalls that SL went through! We don't need another patchwork platform! (You can view all the "Bandaid" proposals on the SL Jira website)

LL having serious competition is ultimately good for the consumer, so i welcome any viable alternative than the monopoly we currently have.....that's half the reason that LL can piss all over it's user base....there is nowhere to run too!. (like for like) Sorry i don't count all those Open Grids as a serious challenge to SL.

The exact same model that failed for ActiveWorlds and There.COM, and was all set to fail for Lively when Google pulled the plug on it. The "everyone is a creator" is an absolutely critical part of why SecondLife is a dynamic and growing virtual world. If you want the benefits of a bohemia, you have to attract bohemians.

Like i said, you can't be sure what tools will be available in that world....it could be that "creating" and "selling" are 2 different processes.

I prefer to see this as Betamax vs. VHS tapes

There's BlueMars, opensim (ick), and RealXtend. I would tell any and all of the heads of these platforms that if they can be done and running in 3 months with a Anything Goes as long as it can't be seen publically attitude and a money system, then they will have the chance of a lifetime - to sweep up all the money and all the users that LL is throwing away. And as soon as there is competition, there WILL be an exodus.



There are several systems ready to fly as Betas. Again, if they can be running as soon as LL drops the ball again in a few months, then they'll win and win huge. And if a venture capitalist was to wonder how he could take over the VR market from LL, this would be the time. All the new VR outfits have to do is understand WHY we play this game and WHY forcing people off of their paid-for properties - be it a void or a mature parcel - and saying it can't be our world and our imagination anymore, PI@@es us off! If another player capitalizes on LL's ignorant cleanup campaign, the tier flowing to LL will cut in half within 3 months.

As much as I love Second Life, I'm growing to detest this game, Second Lie.

I'm 99.44% sure that they're going to be based on building stuff outside the system and selling it in shops, and that's it. There's been no indication at any time over the past two years that they were even considering anything else. Blue Mars isn't being built by people who want to use it, and without people like that... the people who get a blast out of terraforming using grenades... they're never going to dream of doing the things that make Second Life work.

I could be wrong, but after seeing the same mistakes being made over and over again by droids like the ones presenting Blue Mars' public face (such as it is), I don't see it. The only hint of a soul I've seen in any of their presentations is in "... and this was designed by Roger Dean, who made those cool album covers for 'Yes'...".

That's just not enough, over two years... that means they have money, it doesn't mean they have soul.

OpenSim is VHS, And Linden Labs is like Sony with an actual clue. This is more like tape vs DVD, except you have to sign a contract to be allowed to buy a DVD-R.

I love the SL platform.....i just detest the company that owns & runs such a wonderful platform!

.....I'm 99.44% sure that SL's user base is going to shafted in the near to not distant future.!

Like i said, i prefer not to keep all my eggs in same basket....so i welcome an "Alternative".

I don't detest Linden Labs. I don't believe a company that wasn't run by cowboys could have created Second Life. A more "business-like" company would have strangled it in its crib, the way the competition has done to their own creations again and again.

Linden Labs is just chaotic enough to create an open system, without being so chaotic they fall into the anarchist's tarpit. They're surfing the shockwave and only another shockwave rider will unseat them.

I'd love to see an alternative. I've been looking for something like Second Life since I saw Tron... when it was first released. In a quarter of a century, there's been nothing close to it. Is it perfect? Would I be filing all these JIRAs if it was? Is there any sign of an alternative? No. Hell no. I'd love to see one. But I'm not going to fool myself that some vaporware is really spray from the next breaker.

The technolgy is there....the market is there for 3D VW's. I have faith that there will be an alternative and one that is an improvement .....and not one still using Poser v.1 type Avatar meshing!

There's nothing like Tron today.

Wow. 1982. What a lotta changes the world has seen since then, hm? From the C64 to 4core monsters running 8 programs concurrently at about 4 billion cycles per second.

But, actually back on topic here, they seem to be going more and more out of their way to make 'good business decisions' that really piss their customers off. They also seem to either not care about that or be totally oblivious to it.

Tr2n is coming...

/me points at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK3x3FNlleU!