Then they should have slapped resource limits on them instead of raising the tier on every one of them by +65%. Or said "hey, stop abusing these things or we will get pissed!"

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04-08-2009 14:39
Then they should have slapped resource limits on them instead of raising the tier on every one of them by +65%. Or said "hey, stop abusing these things or we will get pissed!" ![]() _____________________
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Blondin Linden
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04-08-2009 14:56
1) What about taking the "5 account" limit off the books, since it's not enforced, and letting people coalesce their role-play alts?
ANSWER: Alt abuse and alt unification are two things we’re actively working to provide solutions for. 2) Will all Adult places be bunched together or separated by housing, I feel as though we are well spread out now across the mainland grid and it is economical suicide to place all the clubs, malls, and sex clubs right next to each other. As of now there is not one functioning club/mall/sex club for many many regions/parcels around us. Can you ensure me that if we have to move this will remain the same? ANSWER: The final look of the Adult Mainland will ultimately be what Residents make it. Geographic separation is certainly one way for merchants to manage market share and competition. 3) Any plans to allow those selected for the initial move/land swap to tier up and retain their original Mainland land in addition to the new plot, the original land of course no longer intended for Adult usage? I rather like my existing plot and would like the right of first refusal before it goes up for auction or is otherwise set for sale in the marketplace at large. ANSWER: This is certainly an idea worth considering. 4) A non-adult plot has the age-verified checkbox on. Would a resident with payment info but not age verification be able to get access to the plot or not? A simple binary question for you. ANSWER: No. If they have restricted access to age-verified residents, only age verified residents will get in. 5) Odd question: For those who apply, go through the review, and are found NOT to meet the criteria for moving, will there be some sort of safeguard or rubber stamp or whatever declaring them safe so that a more conservative Linden cant come along the next week and declare the exact same content too adult for Mainland? ANSWER: If we succeed in the effort to provide clear definitions as to what qualifies as Adult content, this kind of ambiguity should be well mitigated. In the event of a review stemming from an AR, previous action related to the account would be noted, and these notes would be reviewed by the person handling the AR. Considering the dynamic nature of content, and even what the community perceives as Adult, it is not likely a stamp of approval would be effective or credible. 6) So you are only eligible for the move *if* you have adult content? What about those who bought mature land because it had no restrictions on use beyond what is prohibited anywhere in SL. Many of those will wish to move to land with similar low restrictions rather than remain on land with more restrictions than the land they originally bought just in case they may wish to host an adult event at some point in the future etc. Are you not going to accommodate these? ANSWER: Anyone with a verified account will be eligible to move to the Adult Mainland. Resident eligibility for the free land swap will be reviewed on a case by case basis. 7) What about Tombstone? Will it have to move to Ursula? It has two bordellos, since it is a realistic old West sim. It is also a virtual town with a real community feeling including sheriff's office, grocery, school, etc. Its mall is mostly clothing/guns. Where would a roleplay sim like that fall in the new guidelines? ANSWER: That depends on what happens in the bordellos, and only the activity in the bordello would be affected, assuming the realistic old west violence is more John Ford than Quentin Tarantino. ![]() ANSWER: An updated version of the guidelines has been drafted and is currently being discussed internally. We know that a lot of issues hang in the balance and we will release the next draft as soon as we confident that it is ready for public viewing. There are two more Brown Bags next week and we hope that the definitions will be ready after that. |
Shockwave Yareach
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04-08-2009 15:06
But the product isn't a flapjack, it's a flapjack subscription service. power and bandwidth - big deal. That's what my tier was for. If 1/4 of a sim at 1/4 the sim's price is losing money, then why is a full sim at a full price making money? No additional hardware was purchased to make the voids, just a plain old blade server that all the sims used. So the only money it lost LL was the loss of all the mainland cash. There were no teams of lindens crouching at the ready to help anyone with their voidsims and any problems they might have had. It's hard enough for our chief to get the concierge... The true problem is that old one - scalability. SL doesn't scale well. And if all four voids in the server have their max numbers of 50 people present, well, taht's equivalent to 200 people in one regular sim. As it was sold as a no-support sim, to those owning them, too bad. You pays your money, you takes your chances. But the same ALSO goes for LL - they sold a product after they found problems, so to LL, too bad as well. You tooks their money, now you delivers what you sold them or it's fraud (no matter what the TOS says.) LL SHOULD have stopped selling them when they realized the voids were being bought at the loss of mainland. They didn't. They should have limited the voidsims to 22 people per void when they found the problem and explained it to everyone. They didn't. They should have admitted the avatar count problem. they instead blamed their customers for actually using the prims and sims they'd purchased. This goes to the heart of LL's thinking today, as evidenced by this ridiculous pogram against adult behavior by the adult customers, who have paid their money to come and play as they wish to play without fear of children being around. If LL wants to get rid of all the adult material, then the RPers, many businesses, and entire sims filled with paying customers have no reason to hang around anymore. LL sells virtual legos that adults can build anything with. If they want to be naughty with them, then so be it - they paid, let them play. If they want to build towering rockets and faux moons to land on, then again, leave them alone with their paid-for toys. But if LL wants their world of their imagination, then they can pay for it and build it themselves. |
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04-08-2009 15:10
1) What about taking the "5 account" limit off the books, since it's not enforced, and letting people coalesce their role-play alts? ANSWER: Alt abuse and alt unification are two things we’re actively working to provide solutions for. ANSWER: If we succeed in the effort to provide clear definitions as to what qualifies as Adult content, _____________________
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04-08-2009 15:16
5) Odd question: For those who apply, go through the review, and are found NOT to meet the criteria for moving, will there be some sort of safeguard or rubber stamp or whatever declaring them safe so that a more conservative Linden cant come along the next week and declare the exact same content too adult for Mainland? ANSWER: If we succeed in the effort to provide clear definitions as to what qualifies as Adult content, this kind of ambiguity should be well mitigated. In the event of a review stemming from an AR, previous action related to the account would be noted, and these notes would be reviewed by the person handling the AR. Considering the dynamic nature of content, and even what the community perceives as Adult, it is not likely a stamp of approval would be effective or credible. great, that means for people at the more "adventurous" end of the mature spectrum will always be vulnerable. Therefore the option to move is actually a no option but to move. you'd better hurry up and put those snow capped peaks in. It looks like everything of mine is going over. ![]() _____________________
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Felix Oxide
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04-08-2009 15:17
1) What about taking the "5 account" limit off the books, since it's not enforced, and letting people coalesce their role-play alts? ANSWER: Alt abuse and alt unification are two things we’re actively working to provide solutions for. This is probably the best news out of all of this. The open door policy needed to be stopped a long time ago. So what number will constitute "alt abuse", and will the offenders simply just lose all the excess alts? Will you have a way to know who has an abusive number of alts or will that require reporting from a community busy body? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-08-2009 15:19
power and bandwidth - big deal. That's what my tier was for. If 1/4 of a sim at 1/4 the sim's price is losing money, then why is a full sim at a full price making money? If you buy "La Vache Qui Rit" cheese in little single-serve wedges it's more expensive per ounce than if you buy a whole wheel of bulk cheese. Because there's all kinds of packaging overhead. This is domestic science, NOT rocket science. The same applies to running 4x as many instances of the sim software on a server. There's memory overhead, network overhead, CPU overhead, and all that added up to it costing more than 1/4 as much as a full sim. They planned badly, they reacted badly, but the assertion that they were losing money on an ongoing basis on a product paid for on an ongoing basis is not some coverup for some scheme to promote mainland sales. It's just something that they should have expected... but that they didn't expect it need not be attributed to malice. _____________________
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Milla Janick
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04-08-2009 15:25
This is probably the best news out of all of this. The open door policy needed to be stopped a long time ago. So what number will constitute "alt abuse", and will the offenders simply just lose all the excess alts? Why should any number be considered alt abuse unless the person is actually using them for some nefarious purpose? _____________________
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Kazimir MacMoragh
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04-08-2009 15:26
4) A non-adult plot has the age-verified checkbox on. Would a resident with payment info but not age verification be able to get access to the plot or not? A simple binary question for you. ANSWER: No. If they have restricted access to age-verified residents, only age verified residents will get in. So wait, I obviously missed something. Payment information is *not* going to be used for age-verification? I thought that in previous discussions PIOF would be able to be used for those of us who were unable or unwilling to "verify" with Aristotle. Or is it that PIOF -or- Aristotle age-verification will only be used for access to the adult contenent? Reason I ask is that a lot of "adult" places that I visit are on private islands, and I was presuming that after this change and they flag those parcels / islands as adult then I would be able to get in with just valid payment information. Is this not true? |
Felix Oxide
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04-08-2009 15:28
Why should any number be considered alt abuse unless the person is actually using them for some nefarious purpose? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-08-2009 15:31
So wait, I obviously missed something. Payment information is *not* going to be used for age-verification? I thought that in previous discussions PIOF would be able to be used for those of us who were unable or unwilling to "verify" with Aristotle. For this purpose, there are three states an account can be in: * Age Verified or not Age Verified * PIOF, PIU or NPIOF * "Adult Access" or "No Adult Access". Adult Access requires *either* Age Verified or PIOF/PIU. The existing checks for PIU/PIOF/NPIOF and Age Verification in parcels will remain available. Yes, it's complex. It's a bit of a platypus. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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04-08-2009 15:35
Jeesus.
What is the difference between Payment Info Used and Payment Info on File??? _____________________
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Kazimir MacMoragh
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04-08-2009 15:49
For this purpose, there are three states an account can be in: * Age Verified or not Age Verified * PIOF, PIU or NPIOF * "Adult Access" or "No Adult Access". Adult Access requires *either* Age Verified or PIOF/PIU. The existing checks for PIU/PIOF/NPIOF and Age Verification in parcels will remain available. Yes, it's complex. It's a bit of a platypus. Forgive me if I'm being dense, but I'm still confused. For the three states you list, I presume... * Age Verified or not Age Verified : meaning verified with Aristotle or not * PIOF, PIU, or NPIOF : farily obvious * "Adult Access" or "No Adult Access" : ???? Is this some optional flag that someone can place on their own account that I have missed somewhere along the conversation? Which brings me back to the original scenerio of "A non-adult plot has the age verified checkbox on, would a resident with payment info but not age verification be granted access?", to which Blondin's answer was "no". That seems to contradict your statement (and everything I was assuming until now) that adult access requires age verified or PIOF/PIU. Or am I missing something obvious? |
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04-08-2009 15:52
What is the difference between Payment Info Used and Payment Info on File??? PIOF = gave payment info but never purchased any L$. _____________________
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Brent2 Foxtrot
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I have to ask
04-08-2009 15:57
Given how in the past i gave out my cc infomation and it lead to a couple grand being charged to my accout, i am never giving out my cc info again, i already learnt my lesson once and i wont repeat my mistake a second time. There has to be a easier way to verify your age without giving out ur cc info and without using a 3rd party site to give your infomation to. Is there a way i can verify my ago without using my cc info, ss number or anything of that nature?
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-08-2009 16:02
* "Adult Access" or "No Adult Access" : ???? Is this some optional flag that someone can place on their own account that I have missed somewhere along the conversation? Which brings me back to the original scenerio of "A non-adult plot has the age verified checkbox on, would a resident with payment info but not age verification be granted access?", to which Blondin's answer was "no". That seems to contradict your statement (and everything I was assuming until now) that adult access requires age verified or PIOF/PIU. _____________________
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Brent2 Foxtrot
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04-08-2009 16:03
Is IQ also a requirement? What is the minimum IQ to play in SL? oh btw, i forgpt to give Bambo props for this |
Deltango Vale
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04-08-2009 16:07
If we succeed in the effort to provide clear definitions as to what qualifies as Adult content, this kind of ambiguity should be well mitigated. All other definitions of 'adult' are subjective, arbitrary and problematic. Good luck. _____________________
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Cal Kondo
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04-08-2009 16:22
6) So you are only eligible for the move *if* you have adult content? What about those who bought mature land because it had no restrictions on use beyond what is prohibited anywhere in SL. Many of those will wish to move to land with similar low restrictions rather than remain on land with more restrictions than the land they originally bought just in case they may wish to host an adult event at some point in the future etc. Are you not going to accommodate these? ANSWER: Anyone with a verified account will be eligible to move to the Adult Mainland. Resident eligibility for the free land swap will be reviewed on a case by case basis. I'm sorry but that really does not answer the question. Anyone with a verified account has always been eligible to move to the Adult Mainland, if they buy it. The question is. What is the criteria used in the case by case review to be eligible for the free move? |
Felix Oxide
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Silver Lining?
04-08-2009 16:23
After having time to really think about the new Adult policy and its possible implications, there is one bit of good that may come out of this. Adult flagged islands and mainland regions should be much more secure from griefing since the accounts will have to be verified to enter. This should cut down on alts used for the sole purpose of causing grief.
The big question is, Will it even matter anymore if the majority of people can't get to your adult flagged land in the first place because they refuse to become verified? I am curious to see how this plays out. _____________________
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Wynochee LeShelle
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Normal question of a free adult citizen from Austria
04-08-2009 16:26
What sort of people are doing the so called "reviews"? University professors for art, sociology, psychology, system-theory, media-theory, biology, sexuality-scientists, anthropoligists, museum-curators, culture and history professionals, politologists, philosophers, citizen-commitees, psychiatrists, professors for esthetics and neuronal-esthetics, cultur-anthropologists, ethnologists, criminologists, civil rights activists, experts for national and international laws and constitutions, prominent actors of the porn biz, experts for genetics and nature science, lawyer and attorneys, judges, journalists, specialists for ethic society-changes, experts for tantra and zen, town and urban planner, gender scientists,
..... or just some stupid average simple minds with an attitude and faible for being rude, totalitar, neo-fascistic and filled up with nothing than pure arbitrariness on the rocks wich like to put their voyeuristic bigot noses under other peoples couches? The farce goes on... |
Brent2 Foxtrot
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04-08-2009 16:29
Given how in the past i gave out my cc infomation and it lead to a couple grand being charged to my accout, i am never giving out my cc info again, i already learnt my lesson once and i wont repeat my mistake a second time. There has to be a easier way to verify your age without giving out ur cc info and without using a 3rd party site to give your infomation to. Is there a way i can verify my ago without using my cc info, ss number or anything of that nature? What will happen if i provide the last 4 numbers of my ssn or my Driver's license number? |
GreenKnight Kaul
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So Who Decides?
04-08-2009 16:34
1) How will this effect current alternate viewers? Will they still be able to connect and function, or will they need to be patched and recompiled? ANSWER: Alternate viewer behavior will depend on the versioning information they connect to the SL server with. If they claim to be 1.22 or older, they will be able to connect and function just like the 1.22 viewer will, however they will eventually need to be updated to send maturity information. After a grace period, even the 1.22 viewer will no longer be able to search for adult content. At that point, alternate viewers will need to have been updated to be able to access adult content. 2) Will 250, the current count of Ursula sims, be enough? ANSWER: If the demand is such that there are too few sims, we will add to the supply. 3) If we do swap land over, will we be given first shot at buying more land on that sim, before it goes up for general sale, so we CAN buy land to protect builds...or expand where we couldn't before due to lack of available land? ANSWER: This is an interesting idea that will require some additional thought. 4) I own 1/4 Mature mainland sim which is my home and my Haven. I enjoy opening my gardens to vistors (much like great houses in Europe) so my land was listed in Search and once a month I hosted a Blood Ball which was advertised in the Events. I had also planned to hold a monthly BDSM munch which is social meet 'n greet event. As I am a Vampyre Domme my gardens have all the expected Gothic ambiance with a dance floor, loaded Intan balls, sex coffins, blood pools with sex animations and quality BDSM toys among the black roses, trees, gazebos and shadows...on the ground. This WAS my home and my INDIVIDUAL ENJOYMENT came from sharing it with like minded avatars in the SL community. At no time was it intended, used or viewed as a VENUE. I like decorating it, landscaping it and knowing that when I'm not there that others are strolling in the moonlight, playing in the graveyard or wasting time with the Lament Trivia cube. 1. Will I be allowed to reopen my gardens, list it in Search under Mature and host Mature events once or twice a month as before? 2. If the answer is No then am I still "allowed" to have my sex gen items and BDSM toys in my gardens for my own use? Not everyone enjoys sex indoors, in a skybox or in a dungeon setting. I personally find most dungeons, RL and SL, to be claustrophobic, constraining and generic in decor/amostphere. ANSWER: While individual interpretations will inevitably differ with regard to what defines a venue or a personal build, what is described sounds like an Adult build. 5) What is the purpose of "account verification"...or even of "age verification" when SL itself is stated to be an 18+ service? ANSWER: It is an additional measure of assurance we’ve elected to implement in an effort to develop and provide quality access controls. 6) What steps will LL take to prevent the buying of land purely for reselling as seen in Nautilus and Bay City? ANSWER: Land speculation is not a prohibited activity in Second Life. 7) I have 70% of the sim I'm in. I have cut out 2 parcels and deeded to friends groups so they can use them as they see fit. They don't have any Adult Content on these parcels. If I am moved will they be moved with me? Do I need to take the land back to insure they are moved with me. ANSWER: Nobody will be required to move. A move to the Adult mainland is an option we plan to make available to Residents who wish to maintain an existing build such that it would be defined as Adult oriented content. If you wish to stay grouped together you would have 2 options, flag your 70% as mature thus eliminating the need to move or take the land back and re-deed it after you have moved. The situation would depend on 1) how you are going to flag your land and 2) your desire to stay connected by land to your friends. ![]() ANSWER: The access controls are selectable in preferences. They may implement varying levels of access control several times per session, should they so choose. Blondin, Thank you for answering my question, #7. There is still no official clear definition of Adult Content, that I know of. However any place that has sex that people can walk into is safe to say is "Adult" as per you answer to question #4. If you came to my property, as I requested in the notecard, to answer some questions you would have seen that my "public" areas do have sex toys in place anyone can use. But my sensor logs aren't showing any Linden visiting. So I am left to assume you just looked at the property description and made a judgment. I made my original description to help set an atmosphere. It wasn't screaming SEX. Part of the human condition is that romance can lead to sexuality. I have had in place for majority of the life of my build, sex furniture in common areas. I have a Massage room, and shower, both with sex engines in them. A steam room with sex engined benches. I have stripper tables and poles in public areas. I have a picnic blanket in a secluded spot that has a sex engine in it. These items have been used. The Cabins I rent have sex beds and other sex furniture in them as a courtesy. I also have adult movie players that guests in the cabins can use. I suggest you go check out showcase place, Tempura, went exploring there with a friend and we accidentally walked in upon a couple having sex. Their description was not come have sex but it is there if you want it. So much for predictability. This is very similar to the environment i have created in my Sim. The term existing builds suggests, to me, that its going to be LL's policy to decide something wasn't there before this proposal. Therefore making it so the land owner won't be considered an "Adult Business" Then be opened it up to be AR fodder if they don't remove things that were previously acceptable under the term Mature, or be forced to pay the surely high land costs and extra tiers on the "Adult" continent. By the way, my property has been flagged Mature from the start. Since i realized i can flag it as "Adult" in the ad i have moved it to that category. The only way someone could and can find it is having their, Include Mature Content check box selected. Or through people that have put my place into their picks. Further on existing builds, I have been focusing on owning all the land in my Sim as it comes available. Why not, I get charged for a full Sim anyway. I don't want to have parcels in multiple Sims, I want to be able to use the prims as necessary, where some builds need more than others. I don't go out of my way to push neighbors out, but usually as soon as the property goes for sale I jump on it. What I am assuming that this implies, is that I should stop buying land. Because if i don't, it may not be considered when the march to the "Adult" land is implemented. But then if i don't have a full Sim I will likely pay a premium for that land on "Adultopia". What a conundrum. I will take back the land I have allowed friends to use, will that be considered as part of my existing parcel? My intentions with the land was never to be totally a "sex club" it was intended to be a place to come relax, be with friends and if things lead to it have sex. My Original land description: "The Lodge is an adult only facility. Have a romantic outing with that special someone, or meet that someone. Dance, swim, relaxing environment. Cabins for rent. " I used to have a fully stocked dungeon in the basement of my build, I have since moved it to a sky box. This area was intended to be used as a social area, and sex club. I spent a couple months building it, and its construction came to a halt when I read about the Adult continent move. I have since amended my land description to be more Direct, forget about creating an atmosphere. New Land description: "The Lodge is an "Adult" Only facility. A relaxing environment, Gay, straight, BDSM community, all are welcome, "EXCEPT" child play as i have stated this is Adults only. Dance, swim, fish, games, adult games, Gay Sex playroom, community, cabins for rent" I cannot make the area sold to me and pay monthly fees for "My world, My Imagination" as things stand now. I hope Linden Labs comes up with answers, soon. |
Rene Erlanger
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04-08-2009 16:35
This is probably the best news out of all of this. The open door policy needed to be stopped a long time ago. So what number will constitute "alt abuse", and will the offenders simply just lose all the excess alts? Will you have a way to know who has an abusive number of alts or will that require reporting from a community busy body? Should be very interesting with all those Bot runners ![]() |
Kara Spengler
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04-08-2009 16:38
2) Will all Adult places be bunched together or separated by housing, I feel as though we are well spread out now across the mainland grid and it is economical suicide to place all the clubs, malls, and sex clubs right next to each other. As of now there is not one functioning club/mall/sex club for many many regions/parcels around us. Can you ensure me that if we have to move this will remain the same? ANSWER: The final look of the Adult Mainland will ultimately be what Residents make it. Geographic separation is certainly one way for merchants to manage market share and competition. So the buyers of the land will determine how to buy to not cut the throats of their competition? Not the zoning deities (LL) enforcing it? Umm .... you do realize that each club will do what benefits themselves, right? 4) A non-adult plot has the age-verified checkbox on. Would a resident with payment info but not age verification be able to get access to the plot or not? A simple binary question for you. ANSWER: No. If they have restricted access to age-verified residents, only age verified residents will get in. Doesn't this fly in the face of your earlier comments of PIOF being an alternative for age verification though? |