Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

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And Linden is using the credit card info to verify this stuff... so apparently "Adult" is 13+ by Linden standards

Hmm...


Drat - still another hour+ away.. Anybody know what this was about?

Ok, so my predicion of what will happen now...

1) This thread will be locked.
2) In a week or two there will be a new blog announcement, something along these lines: "Ok, we listened to your feedback, and you are right, moving your businesses manually would be too complicated. So we have prepared a way for automatic moving of your prims, and we will update existing landmarks to point the new parcel.".
3) Other than that everything will proceed as originally planned.

This is exactly how the open space fiasco worked. 1) LL announces largely unpopular move 2) the community becomes angry 3) LL offers a "compromise" (homestead sims) to shut the community up 4) they do what they wanted to do anyway.

It worked, so why not to use the same tactics.

Before the forum closes, if Blondin has the time -- or anyone knows the answer -- I would greatly appreciate some advice on the implications of these forbidden words.

We've established, I think, that there are plenty of items I can more easily sell on a mature parcel than can I advertise them in search, at least with meaningful descriptions.

But what's the situation with words on signs and displays? I can sell Gorean Slave Silks on a mature sim so long as I don't advertise them using quite those words, but what words am I allowed to use on the vendor display?

Absolutely- You can save a .RAW terrian file of your sim topography and use it in your land controls when you set up the new on (or have LL do it). I save the landscaping from my group's homestead when we left- if we ever get another full sim, we could simply slap that file on it and our terrain would be the same.

OUr *build* is in pieces, but at least we'll have the same landscaping

^V^

Yes - and my vote was already on that one. Others would be welcome.

Rime

Indeed it is. To speaker of the queens english an "ass" is an animal.

Its still an insult when applied to another, but calling sombody an ass is actually a quite mild insult to their intellect, or at least it WAS before the pervasive infiltration of the American language

In the old days of sail, the big wooden blocks that appeared in the rigging had to have a channel carved around them to support the ropes that held them and prevent slippage. They were also frequently asymmetrical and wider on the base. The top was the "head" and the bottom was the "arse"... When in use, looking up from the deck, you could be forgiven for thinking you were looking up at a wooden pair of buttocks. Not sure which direction the use of the word migrated, but the use of "arse" as a vulgar term for that part of the anatomy lasted a lot longer than hand-carved wooden pulleys did

Actually, it didn't work very well.. Homesteads are a far lesser product than openspaces were and cost more. I don't think many fell for that compromise being to our benefit.

Oh yes. Remember traffic future meetings? All those people complaining about traffic bots?

What was the outcome of all those residents annoying LL with complaints about traffic falsification?

Profile pick payola. In addition to traffic falsification!

That's right folks! Now 2 ways to falsify relevance in search instead of only the one you were complaining about!

People have very short memories around here. If you complain it gets worse lol.

That is what a lot of people have said but they don't want this cause no one would want to move and it would be obvious that this was all for naught and no one really wanted this.

Suggestion - when this thread closes. Create TWO new threads. One for the relocation issue and one for the search issue. Although related the chatter on each is drowning the other out.

Rime

As long as the account has been verified.




I believe so Yes.



Those who already have that info on file are set.



There's a middle step where you have to set your maturity preference to Adult, Mature or PG. That can be found in the preferences tab.



I'm not sure about this.




Basically




Did you mean MATURE?



Adult won't have the restrictions that Mature or PG would have



You'll be able to wander around Ursula at this point as well



You'll be able to request your top three plots when you file the ticket. The size of your plot will be comparable to your current land holdings.



We'll be extending the 9 days. People will have more time



I don't know about these first two. Something doesn't sound right but I can't place my finger on it.




I may have missed a thing or two but the basics are there.

Profile pick payola doesn't cause lag.

Is land and water possible at a second level? Meaning there is ground level with land and water and trees... But what if at 4000m above there was another layer of land and water? Is that even possible? Just curious.

The move process should be fairly simple. Offer it to anyone who owns a mainland plot- mature *or* pg, with the understading that they will be moving to a place where "anything goes".

If people *want* that kind of freedom, and they paid tier in mature parcels thinking that they were getting it, then Linden Labs owes it to them to replace their land with something as close to what they purchased as possible.

IT still won't be *what* they purchased- what with restricted access and search filtering and advertising restrictions and all, but at least they will be able to build whatever they wish, without worrying about getting AR'd by someone who teleports to the wrong spot and sees something that they don't like.

^V^

Heh, the fact that you said that shows you missed WAY more than a thing or two...

There is a limit of logic to how much one can protest the actions of a private company that is setting guidelines for something owned by them.

This is no longer a reasonable majority, vocal opposition. Those people are still here to be sure, but are now a minority being screamed down by people using words like fascism, posting pictures of a giant penis on public websites, bombing Jack's inbox (Jack, who seems to be the only Linden attempting to keep this to extreme content only), and discussing presenting the "plight of porn" in the media.

The resistance movement is now an embarrassment. Those members of the reasonable vocal opposition, should have spent as much time talking down the nutcase factions in their ranks, as was spent castigating any Linden that moved, or seeking out every single @#$% word to gripe about.

So, the bear is lame, because the cause it now lame. The t-shirt is not, because it would be fun to wear one.

Prim land/water? Yep.. 'Real' land/water? Nope..

Hmmm - I swear I remember seeing an advert for rental land that was basically a terraformed sim at different altitudes sharing the same region...

Rime

What about people with multiple parcels in a sim to boost prim counts for the parcel their store is on? I do hope they get a new single parcel in Ursala the same size/prims as what they had on mainland. Otherwise they need to be putting little porn kiosks on every parcel in the sim right now cluttering it all up.

Thats the impression i got from jack at the BB meeting as they have made the terrain already on the new continent

If parents are not controlling what their children do online, those children will find what they are looking for one way or another, with or without censorship. I have 4 children, and they are not allowed to even be near a computer without an adult there. Let's not forget that most new users coming to SL have no idea what they want to see or what to expect. They are here to explore a fantasy world which is suppose to be apart from their real life.

I believe that taking steps to restrict or censor what is suppose to be a virtual fantasy environment takes away from the entire experience for everyone. Most new people come to SL to try it out. If what they see in the first few minutes does not meet their expectations, they will just leave, and never come back. The last thing they will do is go through bureaucratic hoops to prove their age in order to access content they aren't even sure they want to see. How many SL users met someone they ended up being friends with at a place that has adult content? I would bet most. Taking away that possibility from new users who are not yet sold on SL reduces their likelihood of staying. Let's face it, SL does not yet have enough content and technical ability to give new users enough to make them stay.

Most new technology, like the VCR and the Internet was pioneered by adult content, and SL is no different. The reality is most things we do in this life revolve around sex one way or another, and there is nothing evil, immoral, or dirty about it. This is why adult content was around long before any religion, and it will be here for as long as the human race. It is part of who we are as a society, and if it wasn't, nobody would be interested in it, and it wouldn't be in SL to begin with. While you are at it, LL, why not make SL a religious place with everyone required to say a prayer when they first log in? This is what censorship and content restriction leads to, being from Russia I know that all too well. It's time to take a stand LL, and look beyond the religious right philosophy.

Instead of wasting time with censorship, I suggest LL focus on the real issues of making SL mainstream:

1) Expand the capacity of each sim to at least 1000 avis at the same time, preferably 10,000. What concert or mainstream event has less than 1000 people gathered together in the same location? The current limit is barely 100, so sad.

2) Create a full featured browser based SL client to make it easier for new users to try out SL without downloading software. Once the person is hooked, they can optionally install the software for additional features.

If SL wants to be mainstream like the web, they have to be like the web in as many ways as possible! There is no censorship or content restriction on the web, as adult websites are not forced to be in a "Red Light District". Why should SL be any different? If anything, it should be more progressive and open! Just my 2 cents.

I believe the terrain is just a heightmap - basically a X/Y grid that contains the height of each spot in the terrain. Because of that, you can't do things like caves or additional terrain layers - you have to fake it with prims.


Yep - they have to have a terrain if they want to bring the region online..

What people are talking about with the cloning regions and stuff would be in addition-to or instead-of the existing ursula regions.

This does seem to be the case and it's a very silly case, especially as I still haven't seen any examples of keywords that are allowed in mature search but not PG search.

Still waiting for the ability to make Linden water.
/me sighs and shakes his head "Someday, someday."