Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I thought so. Same here in Austria. But since Blondin spoke of legal guns, and guns will be not moved to Ursula, I think, if one makes a nice waterboarding - animation this will go through as legal and PG too. I have heard it is a common freetime pleasure of specific american "services"...to give people a waterboarding treatment 800+ times. Was in medias, prime time, worldwide, the term and how it works and that it will not be prosecuted. Sure PG....

What kind of club do you have? Homesteads would need to flag their content just like any other region.

I originally posted this on the Xstreet forums, but no Linden has acknowledged it, even though I've seen Meta Linden on at least twice in the last six hours. So, here we go. Second try.

~~~*drops gracefully to his knees*```

SL has taught me the art of pleading without shame. If what it takes for you to listen and understand what someone says is to put aside all pride and beg you, I will do it.

I beg of you to listen. Please. There is an important part of this transition to Adult Orientation that everyone has been trying to express. And after reading 4000+ comments on the Blog, it seems you either can't, or won't, acknowledge or understand it.


This move is going to hurt. A lot. It seems to us that you don't care about what we are saying because, when direct questions are asked in simple language on the blogs, they either are not answered, or are only answered by repeating the exact language of the official release regardless of the fact that people are asking for clarification of that exact same language. This is giving the impression of willful obfuscation, regardless of what you may really mean. Please understand that. Even if you don't mean to come across as steamrolling over people, you still are coming across that way.

It appears as if the 'discussion' is designed to entangle people long enough to pull this off and that people will just settle back down like they did after the casinos were removed. However, I think this time we are really screwed.

I think the sweeping changes made before in SL's history (casino removal, age play crackdowns) didn't affect the guts of SL like this will, but the lesson you seem to have learned is that Linden Labs can do anything if you are willing to wade through the backlash.

That nothing seriously different will happen to our world, however, in this instance, so many residents are going to lose so much time and money that I think they'll just leave. Linden Labs appears to not be paying attention to the fact that all the other major changes to SL occurred when people though the macro world economy was humming along fine. In this global recession/depression, people are feeling desperate and worried and angry and broke. They will not take this.

Again, I beg you to please please PLEASE listen to what we are telling you. Listen to the alternatives people have proposed and debate the pros and cons sensibly and clearly. LET US HELP YOU HELP US.

TRUST US.

If we do this, SL will not survive but thrive and we will all be the richer for it.

I will continue to operate in my home as I always have. It's not a business, and it's not anyone elses business what I do in my private parcel so long as it's not visible from a road.

I will not move to Adultville, simply because I have a sexbed and ocassional guests. Period. Not voluntarily, and not forcifully either. If you DO choose to press the issue with me or my friends and neighbors, then you choose to lose us as customers. You will choose to lose our thousands of dollars monthly income because you (of all people) cannot tell the difference between reality and a cartoon. And then, you can all pay the electric bill and your salaries by having bake sales and raffling off M's Porsche.

You have set a bad course here, and you've made it much worse by setting standards that will make almost every parcel in SL today an Adult one. You're take a moderately simple problem and making it much, much worse with this solution method. And if you proceed as planned, your losses will make it into management history books for a century to follow. You'll become a textbook example of how to take a profitable enterprise and utterly destroy it by forgetting what, exactly, you are selling.

I implore you -- please stop and take a good hard look at what the goal is, and whether or not this solution is the best one available to you. Every day, you make matters worse, not better, by widening the list of "adult" activities to the point where your 2-4% claim is impossibly naive. When I said it was impossible to clean up Mainland without bulldozing everything, I didn't mean for you to do just that! I meant that what is here is here and your goals are better met by making Ursula the new G rated entry point for new users, businesses, educators and teens. Keeping it clean will be a snap - making the mainland clean, that's not achievable without losing lots and lots of customers.

The customers you lose today will equal ten times that number in future customers lost. If you think we don't blog and we don't tell others what's going on (and in some cases, set corporate policy), you are fooling yourself.

Time is running short, LL. If you turn on your customers like you are planning, then you'll have far fewer customers left.

It's something we are working toward, but at this point, it'll be individual.

After reading each and every comment on this thread, I have come to the conclusion that they don't believe what we are saying.

I suppose that's fair, we don't believe what they're saying after all

The animation store you described above would not be considered Adult.

Then we are at an impasse of Gordian Knot proportions. That was solved by cutting it in half, as I recall.

Mature would be fine.

Blondin, what if the venue is advertised on a website outside of Second Life?

this will ruin sl for me...

I build generally and my store is on the mainland.

Currently mature as I sell sexually themed furniture/ bondage gear and Sci type vehicles. Most of this have the usual nukes fitted which is pretty damn violent I assume.

I took up this parcel just before the new rules were touted by the Lindens.

We also rent a piece of land which luckily is on a private mature island so LL should not mess with us there but I just see this as totally unrealistic. The levels of what is mature and what is adult will be blurred as always which will kill alot of businesses.

In this case I'd ask if LL will be providing a free swap of land (i.e. my mature mainland parcel) over to the adult land or will only the people who get chosen get a look in.

This sucks and removes the option to be sensible. I thought a nanny state existed in RL, a shame the Lindens are not sensible enough to avoid reflecting the mistakes made in RL in SL.

I thought somewhere I had corrected myself for this but I'm not sure. Maybe I dreamed it

Private homes on a private region with no advertising would be mature. If they were hosting adult content open to the public, then it would be adult.

Female nipples and topless female sunbathing will not be suitable for a PG region.

This is absolutely not true. A home with a sex bed will not be considered adult.

I think your correction came after I posted that.
What does "open to the public" mean, does that mean having some sign or description or advertising that it's open to the public?

This would be Mature.

OK, please MAKE UP YOUR MIND. First time we discussed this (in private) BDSM was 'mature' even if some of the devices have 'potential sexual use' and when I mentioned that I could disable those on the demos, that seemed to be fine. Then BDSM was going to be inherently 'sexual' and all of it was ADULT. Now we swing back the other way, if there is no nudity. You only made ONE comment our out advertising and that was a company name (CumOn) ... is it what's in the store or the ADVERTISING.

I even offered SPECIFICALLY to work with the group on setting the standards to see what was/wasn't 'adult' and what could be done to adjust things to 'fit in' and was IGNORED!

FOR GHODS SAKE, MAKE UP YOUR MIND LINDEN LAB!

Whereas all of SL should now be Adult, since we are all being bent over a barrel and getting f***** by the Lindens.

I'd be willing to do something like this next week for my OH.

Open to the public, or advertised?

Would "open to the public" mean residents in mature regions would have to stop allowing public access to their land via the about land option if they wanted to get their digital freak on?

I was at one, yes stroker was, Matthew, Melody, Toy, Marianne and others as i didn't keep a list of who was at mine.

And male nipples?

There will always be edge cases and in the context of education, these things would be acceptable.

Time is rapidly running out, Lindens. If I were you, I'd leave the details of what you did at LL off of your resumes'.

And any former LL resume' I see with the exception of Soft's goes right to the shredder.