Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I'd hope people with beachfront property now get beach front property then.

Perhaps we can have land catagorized (if the Lindens do not already). For example:
1. Beach
2. River
3. Plains
4. Rolling Hills
5. Mountains

With extras that increase land value taken into account
A. Protected land
B. TBD

So, if I own 1/8 a sim of category 1 land I would expect the same in return -- or compensation for the lower land value for a different category. Someone with 1A land should be able to pick another parcel of 1A land.

Another issue is who gets 1st pick of the new land, even within these categories. I mean, some beaches are nice than others, right?

I say it be done by:
1. Senority (age of land ownership)
2. Lottery ranking for owners within same senority group.
3. Lottery selection of land.

For example, we might be allowed to place up to 10 "bids" on land from my category (beach, river). The winning bid is awarded to the person with the highest senority and rank within that senority group, and, in case of "ties", a drawing is done to pick the new owner.

Make any sense?

Time has come to rename this to First life toon town version as that's what it has become.

As I listen to the brown bag series this is very apparent.

Come to second life where you can create anything your mind can conjure, oh wait if it is dirty according to the new mantra you will be segregated. Golly, sounds life real life to me.

The fantasy has been erased..
The glow has subsided
the nice birthday balloon has lost its helium and is now on the floor

As in all governing body's they all crave power and this seems no different.

This is just the next step in the creation of a limited and/or segregated society that seems to have always been the plan.

Oh, they have heads there?

I didn't know...

But ok, Austria is far away, how could I know that there are heads...or, brains...

Do we have any reports about if these heads are empty or full?

These days I have impressions, that these heads are maybe only existent to have a location where hair can grow or fall out.

Maybe a thin wire is mounted horizontal in the vacuum-skulls to prevent that their ears falling on floor.

Anyway - slowly we could start to announce and inform them about the upcoming changes for our payment performance, because I - for example - will give no more cent to them.

I don't pay for discrimination, totalitarism and robbery of dignity.

Its the alcohol thing that gets me as its virtual, no one gets drunk and kicks off and no livers are harmed lol

What will we do with a drunken CEO?
What will we do with a drunken CEO?
What will we do with a drunken CEO?
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

Shave his belly with a rusty razor,
Shave his belly with a rusty razor,
Shave his belly with a rusty razor,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

Put him in a long boat till his sober,
Put him in a long boat till his sober,
Put him in a long boat till his sober,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

Stick him in a barrel with a hosepipe on him,
Stick him in a barrel with a hosepipe on him,
Stick him in a barrel with a hosepipe on him,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

Put him in the bed with the captains daughter,
Put him in the bed with the captains daughter,
Put him in the bed with the captains daughter,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

That’s what we do with a drunken CEO,
That’s what we do with a drunken CEO,
That’s what we do with a drunken CEO,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Way hay and up she rises,
Early in the morning!

I do not know how LL chose the people for the brown bag meetings, but as a smut pedaler myself i got an invite and took a few questions from others here to the meeting. The meeting was well orchestrated as to be expected as this is a done deal and has been for some time, LL are just seeing the reaction and probably trying to fill in the gaps of their own plans.

We don't get a voice imo as this was worked out a long time ago all LL are doing now is damage control, i am sure they have worked out lost revenues etc. and are prepared to take the hit in the short term it seems to clean up the grid for whatever purposes they have in mind for the future.

It is a sq meter for sq meter swap and so far apparently you will submit a ticket with some choices of land you want to swap to, no guarantees that you will get beach on the mainland for beach in the new continent etc.

I have space on my dedicated server and a great domain name in place ( we are working on another project atm ) to host this wiki. However we do not have the time to administer and set it up.

Therefore if there is anyone willing to set it up and administer it then please PM me here or email me directly, my email address is in my First Life Tab in my profile and we will sort it out with the people that are interested in administering and running it.

The server space and domain are set up so get in touch asap and we will facilitate this wiki as a collective independent one for everyone interested.

It can be ready to be set up as soon as today 23rd April if there are interested persons

Hope this maybe will help us all

Funny in this case is seems to be big business and the supposedly "liberal" educators spoiling your fun. But don't let the facts get in the way of your bias.

These educators should learn history. To clean up a society has never worked in one million years. It would be in their own interest, to not support any totalitarism.

The Justus department is still going after medical marijuana providers and users. There hasn't been much of a change.

I agree totally. I have been against any restrictions of any kind ever since I have been in SL. To me this is just a faster slide down the slippery slope that the ad banners pushed us down.

"My Marxist/feminist dialectic brings all the boys to the yard, and damn right! It's better than yours!"

Sorry, but I saw that on a t-shirt once, and never thought I'd get a chance to use it!

Thanks!

-V-

This is intended to be ironic, right? Or, wait...
This is irony, too, right?

Firstly, the AR system penalizes false ARs not at all. It *could*, but it doesn't. (Ask Mainlanders who were AR-griefed by adfarmers just how much those adfarmers were penalized for those shenanigans.)

Secondly, the only automatic association among alt accounts is by email address not RL information, and even then it doesn't extend PIOF, nor PIU, nor Aristotle age-verification across those accounts. (Personally, I'm glad it doesn't, or I'd never have been able to use my alts to find bugs in the enforcement of age-restricted parcels.)

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I'm pretty much at a loss now about what to believe about the actual policy here, after "photorealism." It wouldn't be fair of me to assume it's all double-talk just on the basis of one word that is used, uh, unconventionally. Still, it makes me wonder if I'm missing the intent of each word in the policy statements now. It's an experience reminiscent of reading the "word salad" of schizophrenics, where the scope of connotation is only private and fleeting.

And "fleeting" is a big part of the concern. I share Argent's concern about potential re-writing of the soon-to-be-historical record about this (inasmuch as the earlier FAQ vanished into KB limbo). Yet with apparently conflicting definitions and interpretations, who's to say what ever meant anything?

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master – that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.
"They've a temper, some of them – particularly verbs, they're the proudest – adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs – however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"

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FWIW, I can confirm that there had to have been months of preparation for this, based on the extent of changes to the 1.23 viewer. I've been playing with one of the Nightly Builds, and there's an amazing volume of stuff associated with Adult content. See http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Public_Nightly/1.23

I posted the following post #4092 page 273 The offer is there on the table for everyone if anyone is interested

"I couldn't give you a definition, But I know it what I see it"

-Edwin Meese, Attorney General under President Reagan, speaking about what constitutes "pornography"

-V-

Will the people that vehemently screamed and badgered, especially in the forums by trolling incessantly, for this situation be permanently banned from the entire adult continent? That needs to be done.

See the thing is once you are on the adult continent you can pretty much do whatever you please unless it is some behavior or imagery that is banned from all SL. So we don't want these net nannies having any further access since they express their obvious dominance fetish through harassing people.

You're forgetting something Jannae, How are you going to *find* the content, and shop for it unless you verify your account- something the *vast majority* of SL residents either can't or won't do. ( NPIOF accounts for something like 3 million and change users compared to not quite a million users who are verified in some way.
this change will affect roughtly three quarters of SL accounts. and unless they are verified, they won't be able to *buy* the sex bed to put in their PG skybox.
That and they'll have the constant threat of an AR nuking all that they have accomplished in SL and I know *I* would feel dumb if I got AR'ed for a zoning violation!

we should all just apply for a plot in Ursula- just to be safe.


-V-

From the release notes "If you are a resident rated PG..."

What sort of resident will be rated PG and not allowed access to Mature?!?! Kids maybe? From the teen grid maybe? Why do they keep insisting the grids aren't merging?

The original quote was by Potter Stewart in 1964.

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so.
But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that. ”

— Justice Potter Stewart, concurring opinion in Jacobellis v. Ohio 378 U.S. 184 (1964), regarding possible obscenity in The Lovers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

Hi All, Blondin and Linden Labs

As some of u may know I run a small rental business (1 Mainland Sim) and a home sales business and have been following this proposed LL plan very keenly.

My sim has been my most significant financial investment in SL. LL has received a few thousand dollars of revenue from me over the last year and a bit. Blondin/LL I am still small enough to represent a typical resident, but also big enough to represent business - both landlord and retail. So lend me you ears.......

I do not sell anything sexually related, however my houses are used as private homes and clubs, which become areas for meeting, coupling and whatever a person over 18 might get up to. So in a direct way I provide the covers that keep the sex and other fun stuff hidden from publics eyes. So I am directly, and indirectly, part of the 'Adult Sex Industry". My houses make Adult scenes Mature...... think about that for a moment. Does that make me adult - no - but I support the adult industry.

Secondly, as has been mentioned many times, no mater how well defined the Adult/Mature boundary is, there will be many subjective rulings and people will also want full freedom within SL (One reason why I put my rentals on Mature Land in the first place). These things combined will see the bulk of mainland residents want to move to ADULT rated lands. This will totally ruin mainland property values destroying my investment in SL. I will be forced to move to protect my investment. (And I don't want to move as I have spent hundreds of hours making a lovely place for my tenants to live and play)

Thirdly: I cannot, and will not, police the activities of my tenants, or see if they are advertising ADULT events on my Mature land - this very aspect alone means that I must move to an Adult area. (Not to mention any potential AR's that may result in my being charged along with the offending tenant(s)).
Oh just on that - every one of my rental houses has a TV that shows music video's plus a selection of ADULT movies - omg sex... and more, further putting me/my renters at risk of being AR'd.

I am upset and disalusioned at how poorly LL has conducted this entire process. LL is staying on its current track without having a serious look at some of the alternate suggestions that have been made which I believe many of which would provide a better result than LL current plan. LL is disregarding its clients, the people that built your world. Most business owners know intrinsically that is a VERY BAD THING TO DO!


The above are my conclusions from reading the vast bulk of the threads, and here are my predictions:

*You started of SL with Mature and PG - you will end up with ADULTS and PG - Mature will be avoided like the plague.

* Between 60% to 95% of all mainland residents will move to ADULT zoned land.

* You will loose 10% of businesses and 20% of your revenue from Tier (LL needs to understand the SL ecosystem - something I don't think its ever fully grasped)

* You will loose up to 10% of Premium accounts.

* Your support ticket system will collapse under the number of Land Movement Requests and AR's for people doing 'naughty things' in Mature areas.

* You will not have the staff to handle the above as well as handle all of the personal avatar visits required to judge if a parcel/business is adult and hence needs to be moved to Ursala
.
* LL gets hit with a deception lawsuit over the change to the product and deceptive/misleading conduct.

* Mainland will become a ghost land - ideal for re-rating as PG and letting the kiddies in finally - which we know is your long term plan.

* Due to the instability all of the above creates in the SL economy/eco-system another 5% to 20% of businesses will collapse hence affecting more premium accounts and Teir to LL. Fancy a drop of up to 30% in revenue? Shakes head.........

So now I must wonder as this little plan of yours */ADULT CONTENT WARNING/* Fucks Up */ADULT CONTENT WARNING OFF/* every resident in SL if perhaps by some miracle you have achieved your 'preparing SL for the kids' long term plan way more effectively than you had ever dreamed possible? Maybe its intentional - naaah - the amount of incompetence I have seen so far would lead me to serious doubt such a massive disruption was planed - LL (from a business perspective) is not fit to run a lemonade stand. My judgment of incompetent stands.

Bottom line LL, you have done this the wrong way, you are continuing to do it the wrong way, without listening to the voice of reason from your clients and the people who built your world - the people that put food in your mouths and roofs over your heads. This 'little plan" of yours will affect EVERYONE!

Change the way you want to achieve your goals now before you affect yours, and my bottom line, significantly over the next 6 to 12 months.

Yours Sincerely

Photon Tokyoska
WOW Beach Rentals
WOW Prefab Homes

Besides! We must *protect* their delicate sensibilities, and fragile psyches. They might see something fun and sprain their brain-stem!

It's for their own good, really.

-V-

Yes, Ursula is going to be a dull place unless we can take everyone with us. It needs the variety and imagination of all. If it is just a business park filled with clubs and shops it becomes a place to only go to when you need to scratch the itch or buy an item.

I went to have a look at proposed site for my new snow bunnies free sex club last night. This is my home but I'm reluctant to stay because I also use it as a workshop.

Without everyone tagging along to ursula, what are the chances of me being able to replace what I'm about to lose?

This http://www.flickr.com/photos/satiated-desires/3467363267/ is a pic from the edge of my plot. My neighbours on 3 sides have built an alpine village. A nice organic growth.

Sex clubs and content shops are not going to make it home. It'll just turn it into something like RLC which has all the attraction of a mouldy flannel.

I will say only one last thing - this whole new nonsence adult policy is going to destroy Second Life once and for all.

People have enough of how you destroy their business plans every quarter. You interfere with free market and treat us like kids. But we have memory and what is more important, we have buying power.

I am sure that in next two quarters you will finally realize what that means. This is the last drop.

Has anyone taken you up on the offer yet?