Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

You know everytime there is something going on about age verification and such here in SL the press usually gets wind of it, but so far I haven't seen anything. Has anyone else?

If i hadnt had a friend mention this I woulda been blindsided when this all came about. I own a strip club on the mainland. I am assuming "strip clubs" will be classified adult and will have to relocate. I understand the 9 days issue. I have tried to read back the threads but honestly i dont have the time they are so detailed so please forgive me if these questions have been addressed..#1 are strip clubs going to be classified adult?..#2 when do I have to move, if I decide to stay in business?..#3 How does LL intend to notify me that I must move?..#4 why cant I move now?..#5 Is it seriously gonna be first come first served?...Gee that really seems fair to people who spend alot more money than I do..Oh and #6 How does one get customer support if there is such a thing?..I am having log on issues and I have heard from tech support once in 16hrs via the ticket method..In the meantime my business is suffering since I cant log on....HELP PLEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!!!!!

There have been articles in the Times and the Telegraph here in the UK that have mentioned it and approvingly - but only from a LL pr perspective if you like. No one has mentioned the inconvenience to the customers but then every time LL does this kind of thing it usually doesn't rate a mention outside of the gaming press.

edited to add: when I say 'mentioned it' I actually mean the separation of the adult content. No one actually cares what that entails until little johnny gets groomed..

...which would explain all the crashes, the lag, and general performance issues.

*runs like hell*

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https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2009/04/16/the-second-life-economy--first-quarter-2009-in-detail

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LOL = *new user experience*

LOL = *new user experience*

and:

LOL = *new user experience*

I think this is whats all behind the exodus...a few were right I believe

http://www.massively.com/2009/04/14/massively-talks-with-upbeat-second-life-founder-philip-rosedale/

So I think it all boils down to ALL adult content people are expendable and no matter what we say we are done in SL...time to take our talents elsewhere

Addendum: I say let them go for it but what if there isn't any one left here to educate or businesses to sell to...dusting off my luggage too!

lol I liked the way he alluded to us being undesirables.. the old prude!!


our time is up, we've tested their platform and helped them fine tune it enough so they can go out into the world of business and try to flog their wares a legitimate, credible company..

We may know different, but in the end no one cares what we think..

Now, we've just got to find somewhere else that can take the refugees... really the only game is town is a third life using their BIAB.

let's hope it's soon

This is all good and well wanting to expand SL to include education and businesses, but these views are one-sided to say the least. It would be nice and also fair to have an article from the user side on how residents are treated and forced into situations that they didn't ask for such as Ursula...the new adult world.
The plan is to herd us all like sheep into Ursula with no rights whatsoever to get a land swap similar to what we have paid good money to own.
We are the ones who made SL what it is today. We are the ones who helped them earn $350 million this year...without us *adult* people SL would have folded up a long time ago!
and if you could get in the blog you would see what's happening...many are planning on leaving...same here...they get $2300+ usd from me a year so I can do what I do...but not anymore...they are so close to a class action lawsuit it isn't funny...but I hope these businesses and education people read this..because after SL has their money they will get the same treatment as us residents are getting now!
Many are planning on migrating to the Opensim project which is growing daily and soon will be a force to recon with....I believe with sl's poor judgement and poor customer service they have marked the beginning of the end for themselves
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I hope more see this ....we are shoved in a corner here and hardly no one knows whats going on except us and who we tell

That article didn't really seem to say much.

That's it. That's all I'm asking for right there. For the change, opposed to the change, whatever. I don't give a damn. Seriously, I don't. I have a nice place, I already said that. When the place is not so nice, my $31 USD/ month can most certainly go towards something else more entertainment.



Excellent! I don't mind being called on it, though my point was really more to find a third-party group documenting this, more than anything. And we can take pot-shots at one another all god-damned day and it helps NOTHING. I'm not in this for ego, I'm not in this for a pissing contest. I'm in this to get some ground-floor sense of what the hell is going on. I didn't like the flavor baloney I was hearing from the group opposed to the changes. I don't like the flavor baloney I'm getting from Linden either. I'm getting pissed with the whole thing and ready to walk off, let it all fall to shit, let happens what may, and only bother to deal with it when it affects me personally.

Is that what you want? Is that your target goal, Argent? You want to push me into shutting up and letting the whole damned mess drop straight into the crapper without my involvement? Would that please you? Would that bolster your ego sufficient to justify your time dealing with this swill? It sure as hell doesn't please me at all. Not you, not the Lindens, not this whole sordid mess. I've got other things to do with my entertainment time.

Fortune's David Kirkpatrick reports on why IBM's Sam Palmisano and other tech leaders think Second Life could be a gold mine - http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/22/magazines/fortune/whatsnext_secondlife.fortune/index.htm

Fortune 500 presence in Second Life: What are they doing? - http://www.enovationmatters.com/enovation_matters/2009/02/fortune-500-presence-in-second.html

Coca-Cola Re-Ups In Second Life With Nestea Marketing Deal - http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2008/09/30/coca-cola-re-ups-in-second-life-with-nestea-marketing-deal/

I've encountered enough stories, and I have a copy of the September 2008 Computer published by the IEEE Computer Society. This goes out to IT professionals who work for big companies. I simply accept it as a given there must be *some* pattern to the appearance of 'big money' discussing Linden Labs second life.

So... Argent, you want to keep pushing the "If you are not 100% in agreement with me, you must be totally against me" button? You go right on ahead. You want me to just STFU and drop involvement in this? Just the word, and you have it. I've already looked around in hopes of seeing what I came for, and it doesn't look bloody likely I'll find it. You want to 'win' this debate? Would you find it a suitable penis extension? You got it.

found at

http://obijan.com/slstats/index.php

1) Stats: Region Ratings

Rating Instances
none 5
U 12
PG 4,000
Mature 16,765


2) Stats: Payment status

Overview of how many people have what payment status.
Payment status Count
Freebie 3,363,883
Verified 171,753
Payment used 277,018
Lifetime account 97,674

3) Oldest Non-Linden Member

List of the oldest avatars without a Linden name.
These are either very early adaptors, or Linden alts.

Name Birth Date Payment Status
Steller Sunshine 2002-03-13 Payment used

Interesting numbers

A) How to put 86% of SL avitars into 19% of available regions (the NPIOF/PG group)

B) and the adult/mature 14% get to play in 81% of todays regions

Wow, wonders what the numbers will be after the great LL shake up?

For those who are just joining in and having trouble finding official LL information regarding all this, I've compiled the major links here:

The modified Original Blog about the changes
https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2009/03/12/upcoming-changes-for-adult-content

The modified KB article detailing the definition of adult content
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

The Follow-up blog about the changes
https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2009/03/25/follow-up-adult-content-changes

The Adult-oriented content controls FAQ
https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6032


You should be ashamed of yourself.
You haven't answered the majority of questions already posted in this discussion thread, let alone the questions posted in the original 5 threads that have been hidden from easy view.

Here's a simple non-threatening question for you Mr./Mrs. PR:
Will there be areas in the new Ursula continent that are themed medieval and not futuristic?

I could be wrong but the way I read it was this has been a long time goal of SL and nothing we do or say in this thread is going to change anything...bottom line they want us gone.
SO......back to work on my standalone opensim and I will try to connect to Opensim soon

Let the Companies have my land here they can pay the tier I'm done!

Why are they themeing it at all? Why not let the parcel owners do all that?

A very large percentage of SL users feel exactly this way. Time to sell off, cash out, and move on down the road. The quotes from Rosedale in the massively article say it all about the future direction.

"I would bet that business meetings, both internal and external to companies, will shift largely to happening in VW's," Rosedale responded, "The productivity, travel cost, and green advantages are substantive and will give a competitive advantage to businesses that use them." - rosedale. This is hilarious!! What company is going to open up their most intimate business strategy and meetings to a 3rd party like LL. "green advantages" LOL! What a Freak!

"Any sufficiently open system to be interesting is going to necessarily have people doing things to themselves or others that are undesirable," Rosedale observed

Last quote says it all. I'd say the only undesirables in this whole situation are Rosedale, Kapor, the lindens, and the FIC.

I have a friend that makes scripted cakes that strippers can come out of ... he keeps wondering if that will be adult content.

Then again, maybe they can move all the strip clubs to Westheimer.

What will they do with Telephone Road?

Well, I haven't been able to taunt you into setting up a wiki or something.

Not my side of town ... I'm in Katy and attend Rice, so I know the Westheimer club strip well.

If they can set up their own grid behind the corporate firewall, yeh, but Linden Labs shows no interest whatsoever in getting into the business. They had a "grid in a box" server in 2005, but they're waiting for someone to figure out that you really could sell a 1U server with OpenSim running on it and take the corporate market away from them instead.

THAT is what OpenSim is good for, not so much a 3d internet but a 3d INTRAnet.

LL sold the "grid in a box" internationally, many invested in hardware...

then LL withdrew it, could not sell it outside of the USA!

WHY? never heard a good answer to that one!

All the "grid in a box" were shut down, and no one was compensated for their investments!

Stay tuned, "History repeats itself"

The one company handles it all SL model for virtual worlds is dead. Both for "3D internet" and "3D intranets". If you want to continue contributing to LL's bottom line that's your right. But for a large percentage of us it's time to move on. I prefer to spend my virtual world time experimenting and building in total freedom on a region that I fully control using objects that I can move from region to region and from grid to grid. If i go one route I get all that and more. If I stay on SL its just more of the same treatment we all have endured over the last few years. For me, I've had enough. I'm outta here.

Allow me to attempt to answer based on what I think has been said so far...

Almost certantly yes.

Don't know for sure, but LL is thinking sometime around June.

No idea

No idea

That's what it appears to be, but that's only from a single response with no real detail behind it. But it's the most detail we've gotten thus far.

HAHAHAHAHAHA....
(sorry)

Edit: I really should edit this to ensure StaceyLynn that I'm not laughing at her, nor at the question. It would be entirely reasonable to explect LL to provide support for this, but what they have essentially said is that residents will be completely on their own to move from their current mainland parcel to the new adult contenant. Given that I expect I could write the SQL script to auto-move all the contents of one parcel to another (and I've *never* been a SQL developer in any professional capacity), the fact that LL isn't offering to do so is more depressing than laughable.

Lets say no one spent any money in SL for just one day...I wonder how much they would lose in revenue? hmmmm May 15th is a Friday...just sayin

Nah bad idea...I'm not ready to leave just yet and dont like the idea of concrete boots