Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I think that you hit the nail on the head there sadly that is the state of the world today imho I often wonder how some of the people that do post badly here conduct themselves in the real world, but thats a whole other topic

That all?

pretty much, I have low expectations of sl these days..

but you should see some of the shoes my girls have.. and they're trapped inside avs I don't use anymore

and hair.. and skins...

Awwww......give me your glass.

I can just as easily point to those who support the measure who demeaned and ridiculed those of us who dislike this for a variety of reasons as being, collectively, deviant sex-fiends. There was the one thread which said we should all be cataloged as sex-criminals too, simply for saying a) this won't improve things nearly as good as the alternatives, and b) is grossly unfair, regardless of whether you like watching cartoon sex or not.

So don't claim the rude behavior is strictly a problem for our side. Your side has plenty of loose cannons of its own to contend with.

Three more male avaters would feel Premium and happy too, if LL would start some efforts in this direction.

All it needs is to move LL headquarter to any East European country where they embrace sexuality as the most natural human experience, it would save all the pain and agony here, except, of course, LL would not be so happy.

They may as well, because "mature" will no longer have any relevance.

Would give them excellent incentive to improve the telecommuting potential of their platform. And THEN they'd have a product for the businesses to take note of.

But the servers would still be in the states. So I'm not sure how effective that would be.

I'm confident I never claimed any such thing.

I will stand by my view ... the nut case supporters with their nut case views were the only ones that were responded to. It's telling. Why would any reasoned person that supports this measure post their views here? They were already torn apart before ever uttering a single word.

Even your response here, is a response to something I never said. You just made it up out of thin air ... so I will leave you to it.

let's just ditch the social niceties.. hand me the bottle

Depends. They seem to be redefining PG as G, so if you want to say "penis breath"[1] you'll have to be in a Mature parcel.

[1] Why "ET" was rated PG instead of G:

Michael: Maybe an elf or a leprechaun.
Elliot: It was nothing like that, penis breath!

This was edited out in the 2002 re-release, along with the guns carried by the policemen.

For a second I thought you were going to suggest something else.

Or to the Netherlands, France, Scandinavia.

In a few months we log into mainland.....looking around at all the empty wasteland, a tumbleweed blowing across the sands from a cold north wind....silence...all you hear is the creaking of a shutter on an old building hanging by one hinge blowing in the wind....emptiness, not a soul in sight...by now Ursula is pretty much filled to the brim and out front at the gates are thousands of angry residents holding torches who cant get any land in Ursula....they try and try but finally they give up and go to their accounts and *click*...no more premium account...SL watches as dollars fly away from them, and they are stuck with a thousand sims costing them money everyday to keep online. Goodbye yellow brick road!

A little bit over the top, but you get the picture, I've met a lot of people in my 2 years here and I can say without a doubt they arent PG...the 2% to 4% figure of *adult* content is totally bogus...its just a downplay to try to pacify us when most of us know the score....bring it on SL...the only way to see if you screwed up royal is to just do it...but when you rollback and try to open mainland back to what it was dont expect me to be there....just the thought of all this has ruined my SL experience!
If I have to tear down what it took two long years to build and countless dollars that i've spent...there is no way I will do it over!

Frankly, a few US-based internet domain registration giants had already moved their headquarter to Cayman Island, even though their operations are still in the US. It is how they can get around tax and jurisdiction of the US.

It is no different from all the flag ships are registered in a foreign country, including most of the giant oil tankers, cruiseships, what have you. Practically none of them flies a US flag, but that doesn't mean they are not US-owned or US-operated. That's why you don't hear about the US ships being pirated in Somalia for a 100 years until now. That was probably the last ship registered in the US.

Ja, oui

only packing a bag and leaving..

Yes, GAME OVER.

Enjoy your NL (next life)

So, here's a question: How many friends could he have in the hot tub with him until his residence becomes considered too adult for mature?

You know, there is no reason a nightclub, tastefully designed and implemented, could not co-exist with peaceful neighborhoods.

Well, there is... But it would be so easily solved if Linden Labs would implement llParcelSay in LSL.

1) What is the difference between Payment Info Used and Payment Info on File?
ANSWER: There won’t be a difference in the end result - Accounts will be considered verified in either instance.

2) OK, so let me see if I have this straight. Here are the controls, in the order checked. First gate - Getting past the Region maturity setting:
REGION: Set at World Menu > Region/Estate... > Region tab
Here there is a "Maturity" setting that currently has two values: Mature and PG, which have no affect on access today. Once the new plan goes into effect, there would be three values here: Adult, Mature and PG.
A NEW access gating requirement will be in place here. *IF* the setting for the Region is "Adult", then no access at all, at any altitude, via flying/walking in from an adjacent sim, or by teleporting in from any other sim, unless "Resident has Payment info on file" OR "Resident is an Age-Verified Adult" (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check).

Second gate - Region access approved, Getting past the Estate-level access settings:
ESTATE: Set at World Menu > Region/Estate... > Estate tab
[ ] Allow Public Access. If that is checked, there are two additional restrictions below that
Restrict Access To:
---[ ] Residents with Payment info on file
---[ ] Age-Verified Adults (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check)
So an estate that only wants to allow access for sim owner, estate managers, specified groups members, and an explicit allowed access list for the estate would leave the "Allow Public Access" box unchecked, and the sim would remain securely private.
Or an Estate that was open to the public could further restrict at this level to allow ONLY those individuals who had passed the Aristotle age check, by checking the "Allow Public Access" box and the "Age-Verified Adults " box here.


Third gate - Access to the Region and Estate is approved, now check the Parcel access settings, and if you fail, you can't get within 50M of the ground (768 M if explicitly banned by name). :
PARCEL: Set at World Menu > About Land... > Access tab
[ ] Allow Public Access. If that is checked, there are two additional restrictions below that
Block Access by:
---[ ] Residents who have not given Payment info to Linden Lab
---[ ] Residents who are not Age-Verified Adults. (meaning ONLY the Aristotle check)
Unchecking "Allow public access" and checking the option for group access or adding names to an access list only protects to 50M above the terrain.
Checking "Allow public access" and checking the option to block access for anyone who is not an Aristotle Age Verified adult will again only keep the non-verified resitents out of the lowest 50M above the terrain.

Is that how this will work?

ANSWER: Yes, except for two minor points.

A) The first check is at the Estate level, then the Region level, then the Parcel. Estates contain Regions, which contain Parcels.

B) While you are correct that Age Verified at the Estate and Parcel levels will only allow residents in who have completed the Aristotle age-verification, the Adult region maturity will be a little more than Aristotle or Payment Info On File. As long as the resident has ever had a payment relationship with LL or has used US$ on XStreet, they are considered an Adult and will be able to access Adult regions if they have opted in to do so.

3) Is LL planning any sandbox areas on Ursula?
ANSWER:Not right now, but potentially we could add one in the future if there is interest. Would people be interested in something like this?

4) I know this will likely fall under the definitions, but are there any loose guidelines regarding images yet, either art or promo for product? For instance nudity is allowed in a promo image but hands must be away from 'erogenous zones' etc or it constitutes an adult promo. Personally I err on the side of caution in promo images but there may be people who haven't though of it and would face either moving or redoing a number of product promos to stay mature?
ANSWER: There are no guidelines as yet that deviate from existing Community Standards in this regard, although this will likely be addressed in the final definitions document, and it will likely remain largely in alignment with current Community Standards

5) This seems like a good time to remind you that there are several full fledged Deaf communities in SL. Your audio only recordings are not going to be particularly helpful to them. And yes, some of them are quite vested in the adult content argument. Please make text transcripts available of the Brown Bags.
ANSWER: Transcripts will be made available.

6) My question is what will determine who goes first (land swap)? How much land we hold currently or by join date?
ANSWER: The process will be first come, first served.

7) The question is: Are Profile Picks (apart from the content of the Pick itself, i.e. conforming to PG guidelines) COMPLETELY exempt from the new policy?
ANSWER: Images used in profile picks are not exempt from current Community Standards or the new Adult Oriented Content policy. If the maturity setting of the Resident following a pick link is not set to the appropriate threshold, they will be unable to reach it until such time as they have settings that match that of their destination.

Do you have any suggestions on how we can move builds where some objects belong to other people, some of whom are no longer in SL?
ANSWER: We realize that that individual attention will be necessary through out the process and this will be decided upon on a case by case basis. We’ve heard from many of you and realize that this is a HUGE pain point and we’re working on a better solution to this problem right now.

I'm off to bed. I'll check back in the morning.

GOODNIGHT!

er..... so no guarantee (by that definition) that anyone considered an Adult is actualy over 18 or indeed over any particular age, which kinda brings us back to the original cry of WHY are we doing all this?

I think that you are pinning too much of the blame on one source (i.e. regulation) and ignoring things like constantly increasing labour efficiency, decreasing entry costs and the resulting increase in competition, and unreasonable expectations on the part of shareholders.

I would be happy to continue this discussion elsewhere, if you are willing to suggest an appropriate forum, but am reluctant to continue as it is a pretty big topic, and this thread is disjointed enough...