Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

OH now I think sounds like a really good idea - that is a way to try to make things easier for everybody affected by this change.

So we're looking at Residents posing a question, and othe Residents providing Answers. Hmm, I wonder if they could create a forum called "Resident Answers" so we could use it for that...

Exactly. I could easily replicate most people's buildings. I have a lot of experience in prim alignment and shaping. But the real devil is in getting hold of the textures needed to completely replicate someone's build. A good build can easily have tens of thousands of Lindens worth of textures in it.

oh yes, ha ha..

It may have escaped your notice that a fair few of the posters on this thread don't actually frequent the rest of the forum. They're here for this thread only.

If we're going to pretend we're a community then those of us who aren't interested in the rest of the forum need to agree that we'll keep an eye on that thread.

Otherwise it will probably just fade away because no one is getting any answers.

but thanks for your humour.

Questions about the 2-4% thing, and how LL arrived at that number are, to my mind, irrelevant. What are we going to do with that information, should we ever get it? Does it really matter?

LL have decided that a portion of people are going to be affected by this, and no amount of us questioning whether it's 4% or 10% or 50% is going to change their minds.

I guess I'd like to focus on questions that get us somewhere, not badgering LL to "prove their numbers".

Others have stated that

(Am only quoting part of your post here for brevity's sake....

No, I don't believe that the way you have characterized the relationship between LL and the residents is accurate. I would at least like to propose an alternate view.

LL produce and support a product. That product has become successful, because lots of people have seen that it is something they would enjoy using, and that LL are, for now at least, the only game in town. This is akin to a television program becoming popular, with people watching every week, and developing a rapport with the characters. The makers of the product (in both cases) need to make sure their product stays popular, but have their own ideas about how that should happen (right or wrong). For an audience of a television program to demand (and get) a say in the development of the characters, or which ones get killed off (and I'm not talking reality TV here), simply because their viewership brings advertising dollars to the makers and the network is something that the makers of the product would laugh at - they have their idea of how they want their show to run. If people stop watching, the show gets cancelled. Audiences demanding they have a say in the direction the show should take get ignored by the makers (without accusations of being Hitler, or communist, or fascism). Just because you CLAIM to be a stakeholder doesn't make you one I'm afraid.

I see this as a direct parallel with SL - LL produce the product that we choose to watch. We residents are not direct stakeholders in the venture, we are the audience that LL is providing a product for. We vote with our viewership and the Lindens we spend, quite simple. LL obviously believes that this split is good for their product. Quite a few very vocal people on the forums believe otherwise. But again, for those people to claim some sort of right to dictate the direction that SL is moving is a fantasy at best.

"Humour" aside, I agree - I would like to see lot of good threads started and maintain in RA that start addressing some of this stuff, about how it can go forward and happen (because I get the feeling that it IS going to happen), and try to avoid the opinions and agenda-pushing.

As the percentage goes up, internal support for this project goes down. It's not free for LL to create a new continent.

If it actually turned out to be 50% this project would die instantly.

Respectfully, I think you are missing the spirit of the offer. There were some people here that had concerns that they would be out of business for a protracted length of time, while they got new build going ... or ... Maybe the only help they need is replacing landmarks to the main store.

As an aside, if you have ten's of thousands of Lindens worth of textures in a mainland build, that might have something to do with any lag you may be experiencing.

good - well there's a question in the thread about group owned objects that I can't answer..



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go crazy

It might be nice if people add a few tips too - as has already started

Okay so i've really been out of the loop as of late, and have only been half paying attention to this announcement because they made it seem like these changes would have a minimal affect on the majority of residents. There were no "Ursula sims" (or whatever they are calling them) at the time. Now as I read through some of these posts, it appears LL is going to be implementing these changes in a more wide-spread manner than they initially led on. Is ALL current mainland going to be effected? and to what level does it appear the "adult content" threshold will be?

Specifically, regarding my mainland, I do not have sex shops or sex toys on my land, and I do not have orgy parties. I do have some wall art in some of my homes, that while definitely not X-rated, certainly i wouldn't want my 9 year old to see them. These pictures are not publicly on display either. Also, I do enjoy an occasional non-sexual, but perhaps sometimes "not clothed" romp around the house or in the hotub with a friend.

That said, is it likely that these things will put me in a category of needing to move to the mainland porno sims?

I am finding myself concerned now where i use to shrug my shoulders over all this. And currently my concern is focused on my mainland, I don't even want to think about how this will effect my estate

BTW, if anyone is interested at all, I tend to delete previous 'conversational' posts when they get stale. Otherwise one accumulates a lot of clutter that no one ever reads. Unfortunately, some junk piled up in previous threads before I realized they could be locked. It would be kinda nice of LL to unlocked them for spring cleaning

Would you regard these images as "overtly sexual"?
Would you ever hold a public event on the same parcel, or advertise the parcel in search (e.g. places, classified or event)?

If the answer to both questions is yes, then you probably need to move based on previous answers from Blondin (probably since th exact definitions haven't been published yet).

If the answer to either question is no, then you probably do not need to move (probably on the basis that if someone disagrees with you over whether these pictures are overtly sexual or over whether these are on public display, there is the risk that they may AR you, and that the Linden responding to the AR may agree with them and insist you remove the content or move - this risk is why many on mature land are considering moving to the adult continent regardless of whether they need to or not).

Matthew

They are now archived for historical interest

So, instead of clutter, we now have to deal with disjointed threads, conversations that appear to be one-sided, and mass confusion as new readers see responses to statements that aren't there?

Fantabulous!

They've been saying all along that it will impact the entire grid.

ALL mainland owners with "adult content" must relocate to the new continent.

ALL private sims with "adult content" must either get rid of it or flag as adults only, with the same access restrictions applying as will to the new mainland continent. (NPIOF who havent age-verified cant get in)

Ah, thank you. A nice non-moralistic answer.

You are probably correct, but I remain skeptical because I have not seen anything posted by Linden Lab articulating the legal constraints. I would be more sympathetic if M were to say, "We had to ban banks because of the following legal complications 1) Caliban State Law 36C.24.36 Lace Amendment, 2) Supreme Court Decision Marvin v. B. Bunny, 3) Federal Statute 3.1415926 and 4) civil litigation case Alien v. Predator (pending)." I'm not trying to be difficult, but I didn't buy Colin Powell at the UN either.

I think it fair to say that 50% of this thread is idle banter that no one reads. I'm doing my bit by cleaning out the closet.

You're opposed to worship of false idles, then?

But its always great for a read at a later date or when someone searches on your posting history, gives a lot of insight to that person, thats why i always try and include the previous posts when i reply

This forum is a goldmine of information, both good, bad and downright stupid

Oh, you're the one deleting all your posts, well, then never mind.

yep.

I'm one of these people who leaves every bit of gibberish I utter - simply because if I hit enter then I deserve for it to come back an haunt me later.

"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." - you know the quote

My answer is probably borderline inbetween yes and no.

You know, my mainland is very special to me and i have had it for many years, and i have lived in a respectable manner there for all that time. If i now cannot have a few R rated pictures inside my house (actually these pictures aren't even ground level, they are in a skybox), or sit naked in a hot tub IN my house, then i no longer want the land, and i WILL not just move, because nothing LL will give me will equate to this land. What a friggen shame.

Amen!

I totally agree with you i think we should have the delete post button removed, then it may make people think before they posted

I'm starting to wonder if it's a derailment attempt.. Spam the thread so much that nobody can find any answers and any new questions get burried..