Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Main Forum Thread

This WE know because it is simple logic. But based on the spin in the press we saw they are not going to think again. This new change they are making comes across as a fresh progressive idea. "Second Life is not dead and is now more user friendly for businesses and residents. Come see the NEW Second Life that will roll out in early Summer where you won't accidently wander into any content that you might find offsensive. Linden Labs has taken the steps necessary to make sure your Second Life experience is more predictable."

They have the press they wanted. It's already gotten them what they appear to want.

Well that's the one ray of light from this policy...the verification will surely increase the number of PIOF from where it is now. Let say a realistic but hypothetical 10% of all accounts (excluding Bots) are now PIOF....it could well be that this Adult policy might drive it up to say 30-40%. For the overall economy that has to be a good thing....but it will be offset by the numbers that choose to either leave, and the non recycled cashflow from those working in the Adult Sector right now.

To be honest, payment on file should have been kept from the outset....which kind of highlights that a lot of LL policy changes are shaped around the desire of wanting to be "positive PR " centric.....that policy change gave them the desired login numbers, the increase in number of new accounts to boast to the Media about......now that same policy has kind of backfired on them big time!! ......and this is not to include the "Traffic Bots saga" into the equation due to the opening of the same floodgates.

Had they maintained "Payment on File" from the outset, the total logins today would possibly be around 30-40k+ from natural growth alone, but it would be a pure figure.....no bots, no freebie hunters....the economy would most likely be in stronger shape than what it is today. The grid for one would be a lot smaller ...not the 30k sims we have today, with a large percentage of Yellow!....the population density possibly better than what it is now.


M.Linden wants RL Businesses (mid-size i presume) here because he believes there is a market of holding business meetings, internal training and ultimately operational costs savings for those companies.....he also wants Educators here......and most importantly he wants good company PR in all the media, he wants the image of "Second Life" to change for the better......the non-regulated Adult sector kind of gets in the way of his vision!

if we move on....and lets say LL achieved their sanitised Disney World they so desire and lets say hypothetically the Adult porn sector is virtually non-existant...we now arrive to the next stage, which is Phillip Linden's vision of wanting "RL Teens to be included into the Main Grid because its now become safe for them to do so"
(Yes, for now LL are denying merger, they have a lot of "sanitisation" to do before they could merge it.....but nowhere has it been said "that it will never happen"

If that were to occur, or if this were the actual Roadmap for SL.....it would be a huge PR disaster waiting to happen and all the work that M.Linden achieved prior to that would be wiped away at a single stroke! You cannot have RL kids on the same platform as RL adults and hope not to recieve lots of negative media....particularly from Europe. What is in the Media today is what matters, it doesn't matter about all the glowing reports about SL prior to that......People have a tendancy to quickly forget old media!

Peadophiles do exist, we have seen/ read/ heard stories surrounding IRC Chat channels, Myspace and other social networks were both sets mingle together....regardless of how many appear on Central Agency listings there are always ones that remain undetected. Its a bit like the analogy of "Suicide bombers"as one dies, there are many in the background ready fill that role!

These perverts will hang in PG areas, the same areas where RL kids are being contained in. Go figure!


Just like the policy of "free acounts" has now backfired on SL forcing them to go into reverse gear......the same would happen to their PR in the media if they intergrated RL kids into the main grid. One wonders when will LL ever learn!
Do they just "play business" ?



This single sentence highlights the problems with this latest policy! It is really worth reposting .....it sums it all up neatly for me in just 1 sentence.!!!

Now the main property is 97% "G" rated. publically accessable I have things that I have been told were obscene, picture of 2 men kissing. One may not like it but to me it is nothing to be offended by.

I totally agree with you on this and that is why we do not have all our resources just in SL. SL is small part of the advertising budget and stays for now as we both enjoy it and have many friends here but whatever happens we will constantly watch and follow what LL decides and when and if the time is right we will bail out with the RL adult company from here and go back to just using SL as the great 3d chat program it always has been and as long as i continue to receive value for the money we put into the SL each month we will stay

The problem is SL is not RL and many people forget that and treat it as RL and think they have rights here and laws to protect them as in RL, well they do as far as consumer laws and rights are concerned but thats it and no one has has any rights over what LL decides to do as we all signed the TOS when we started and agreed to all the terms and clauses therein. Don't forget they could stop people cashing out L$ tomorrow with no warning and we as customers would have no recourse, tho that won't happen i am sure ..... but i will never say never with LL. We are the biggest beta software test group any company could have and we have even paid to make LL what it is today and purchased most of its grid for it lol

That is why the only way to vote for change is with your feet if you disagree with LL as they will always only ever pay lip service to the customers. They show this time and time again. Sure there are some great Lindens here that care, but upper management doesn't care about anything other than what it can make from the customers and whilst they are the only real viable 3d grid at the moment they can do just about anything they like.

One day that will change but until then people should learn that its not our world, our imagination its LL's to do with what they want and when they want

Great post BTW

Given the assumption that individual sims would be rated PG, Mature, Adult and the "max level" viewable will be set dynamically by viewer preference here's a few thoughts:

The same could be said for gambling which imho was far bigger than the adult business or at least on par with it and when it was banned yes a lot got hurt some got burnt and other's sales dropped but in the grand scheme of things it all picked back up and the economy grew again and the people that are in SL now that joined after the gambling ban are none the wiser and continue to contribute to the economy.

I don't know samatha since I don't personally know Neptune. But from what has been posted, I think Neptune is the lone voice on this thread of those that LL is attempting to provide that more "predictable experience" for. It doesn't seem to me to be about personal financial gain on Neptune's part.

So in other words, even if an account was verified, they would still have to opt-in to access adult content?

No we talked. Turns out he wants to get rid of an ugly sex club building near by. Not a problem with it being a sex club, just the building. Do you blame him.

This again is the Lindens. No building code, no regulations on much. The mainland is their baby and they just let it be a free for all mostly.

On Private sims, most are managed.

If after the changes any part of a private island carries "adult" as defined, the whole aisland will classify as adult. No resident without PIOF or age verfication will be able to visit any part of the island. However, the Lindens are reviewing this apparently. But that's how it presently stands

If after the changes any part of a private island carries "adult" as defined, the whole aisland will classify as adult. No resident without PIOF or age verfication will be able to visit any part of the island. However, the Lindens are reviewing this apparently. But that's how it presently stands

Want instant good Press:

Annouce that all new accounts to Second Life will require payment on file information as age verification.

Simple and direct and works within what they want.

Current users are not effected, they get grand fathered to adult status if they want.
They don't have to be forced to choose.

All new users come in to the service knowing they have to provide that information and Lindens get some great press.

As for the Mainland. Well gee why not try coming in world and actually managing it. Make up building codes. Require all NEW buyers to agree to it as part of the purchasing process. Slowly manage each sim into somethign better. Encourage some larger land owners to explore improvements.

I will add to this. Allow people to tie their alts to their main account. So if you register an alt later you can just link it, but you also would be required to do some verification for a new alt. Wave goodbye to a lot of the griefers this way!!!

Want to get adult off the mainland grid as it stands? OK make it attractive. Not just some lump of un-teriformed land.

Sell them the new land at 1l per m, and give them two weeks free teir....

will nto cost that much and they can sell their old plots off.

BUT FIRST get a damn building code for all mainland!!!

If after the changes any part of a private island carries "adult" as defined, the whole aisland will classify as adult. No resident without PIOF or age verfication will be able to visit any part of the island. However, the Lindens are reviewing this apparently. But that's how it presently stands

Gambling was less than 4% of users total (and that was traffic, not that all of them gambled.)

I know and I know how this is a hot topic. I promised an answer to this shortly but I don't have one yet. Still working on it.