...Exactly...
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06-28-2009 12:18
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06-28-2009 13:17
Yet you soldier on mocking the concern that surfaced after the publicized visit of a child avatar to Zindra. _____________________
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06-28-2009 13:36
Linden Lab will continue to post ambiguous, conflicting nonsense and wait to see what happens - then scramble the words up and re-post it again. CYA. Exactly. You all know that is the knee-jerk reaction to hearing Adult Content and Child Avatar in the same sentence. Explaining why you all can and want to go to Zindra does not seem to be putting these folks at ease. Yet you soldier on mocking the concern that surfaced after the publicized visit of a child avatar to Zindra. Maybe there could emerge someone from the child avatar community that can speak on this issue with some sensitivity toward the put-upon Adult Community. Since you would rather make mocking remarks and fan the flame -obviously this person is not you. Invalid concerns such as thse deserve to be mocked. And more. Because you have deliberately opted not to use the brain that you have rattling around up there in your head. Maybe of us have actually thought this through and come to the proper conclusions, yet you continue in other threads to demand an answer to "THE question" even though such answer has already been provided, by Linden Lab, in clear, impossible to misunderstand language. Simply because it is not the answer you want them to provide, apparently. Use your brain. |
Lias Leandros
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06-28-2009 13:48
Invalid concerns mocked and refuted in over 200 pages of forums from the same people. If it was such a non-issue you all would not be making such an effort to mock and ignore the concerns. More clarification on the issue is needed:
Some say child avatars can be on a Adult designated parcel IF there is no sex or sex devices in sight. Some say child AVs cannot be on a adult parcel that is used for adult activity even if adult activity is not presently going on. _____________________
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06-28-2009 13:51
"9) Are child avatars allowed on Adult land? Child avatars are allowed on adult land as long as they are account verified like any other Resident. Those choosing to represent themselves with a child avatar do not represent a minor as the account holder. Not all adult land is going to be hosting adult content either. There is plenty of protected land on Zindra that will technically be adult but safe in terms of content. This however does not change any prior policies regarding child avatars. Sexual ageplay is not allowed anywhere on the grid, regardless of rating."
Seems pretty clear to me what more clarification do you need? This argument is mute and I wish those who prattle on with the "outrage". just wonder off to RL and look after their REAL LIFE kids. What you seem to forget it they are adults driving the avatars just like you say you are. DIE argument DIE |
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06-28-2009 13:53
Invalid concerns mocked and refuted Some say child avatars can be on a Adult designated parcel IF there is no sex or sex devices in sight. Some say child AVs cannot be on a adult parcel that is used for adult activity even if adult activity is not presently going on. You're making it up. _____________________
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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06-28-2009 15:27
Some say child avatars can be on a Adult designated parcel IF there is no sex or sex devices in sight. Some say child AVs cannot be on a adult parcel that is used for adult activity even if adult activity is not presently going on. Linden Lab officially states that child avatars who have been verified (WHO ARE STILL ADULTS, THEY SAY THAT TOO) ARE allowed on Adult-rated properties. They also state that this does not allow them to engage in ageplay, which they themselves have defined as child avatars being engaged in sexual conduct or being in places where sexual conduct is happening, or that have the necessary paraphenalia such as poseballs to facilitate sexual conduct. Now, Zindra is a continent owned by Linden Lab, where all parcels are rated Adult. Said rating, according to Linden Lab's own information, not precluding the presence of child avatars. They have also admitted that not every location on said continent will contain sexual material inappropriate for child avatars to be around. There are also places on Zindra where such conduct and content is absolutely forbidden and will always be forbidden. Therefore there are places where even you, Lias, cannot ever legitimately claim that a child avatar cannot be. Your continued refusal to acknowledge this is why I say you have deliberately chosen to turn off your brain. |
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06-28-2009 16:39
And yet the question still remains: Adult content that is a parcel that is deemed Adult by the owner but does not have the sex balls or sexual activity present AT THE MOMENT. Is the child avatar allowed there?
Maybe someone will hazard a guess without cutting and pasting LL vague policy. Because if it was clear we would be wasting our posts in the 'ignore this and let it die' thread. _____________________
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06-28-2009 16:48
And yet the question still remains: Adult content that is a parcel that is deemed Adult by the owner but does not have the sex balls or sexual activity present AT THE MOMENT. Is the child avatar allowed there? Maybe someone will hazard a guess without cutting and pasting LL vague policy. Because if it was clear we would be wasting our posts in the 'ignore this and let it die' thread. Just because it's not clear to about 8 people, doesn't mean it's not clear at all. (=_=) How's about a cut-paste of a cut-paste? "9) Are child avatars allowed on Adult land? Child avatars are allowed on adult land as long as they are account verified like any other Resident. Those choosing to represent themselves with a child avatar do not represent a minor as the account holder. Not all adult land is going to be hosting adult content either. There is plenty of protected land on Zindra that will technically be adult but safe in terms of content. This however does not change any prior policies regarding child avatars. Sexual ageplay is not allowed anywhere on the grid, regardless of rating." Seems pretty clear to me what more clarification do you need? This argument is mute and I wish those who prattle on with the "outrage". just wonder off to RL and look after their REAL LIFE kids. What you seem to forget it they are adults driving the avatars just like you say you are. DIE argument DIE Wait.. Maybe it needs to be repeated with brackets? [[9) Are child avatars allowed on Adult land? Child avatars are allowed on adult land as long as they are account verified like any other Resident. Those choosing to represent themselves with a child avatar do not represent a minor as the account holder.]] Oh... Maybe, I'll do the whole thing again.... "9) Are child avatars allowed on Adult land? Child avatars are allowed on adult land as long as they are account verified like any other Resident. Those choosing to represent themselves with a child avatar do not represent a minor as the account holder. Not all adult land is going to be hosting adult content either. There is plenty of protected land on Zindra that will technically be adult but safe in terms of content. This however does not change any prior policies regarding child avatars. Sexual ageplay is not allowed anywhere on the grid, regardless of rating." Oh... And if none of this works... Please cut and paste the part of the TOS/CS that specifically restricts (Sexual)Ageplay. Unclear? Heh... Must be legal using the same logic. Crying shame that you'd have to look at the blog and KB to find any information. (^_^)y _____________________
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06-28-2009 17:02
More languages..
![]() " 9 )の子アバターアダルト土地に許可されていますか?チャイルドアバター長くしているアカウントは、他の住民のような検証として、大人の土地で許可されているが、子供のアバターを選択すると自分を表すのに示すものではありません未成年口座名義人としてではなく、成人向けアダルトコンテンツをホストするすべての土地のいずれかになるだろう。 Zindraたくさんの保護地の安全は、技術的にはコンテンツの面で大人になるでしょう。これは子供のアバターの前の政策については変更されません。性的 ageplayどこにでも許可されていませんグリッドに関係なく、評価の上で。 " "9) I bambini avatar su adulti terra? Bambino avatar adulti sono ammessi su terreni a condizione che siano verificate conto come tutti gli altri residenti. Tali scegliendo di rappresentare se stesse con un bambino avatar non rappresentano una piccola come il titolare del conto. Non tutti gli adulti terra sta per essere contenuto per adulti o di hosting. Non vi è abbondanza di terreni protetti Zindra su che tecnicamente essere adulto ma sicuro in termini di contenuto. Questo però non cambia ogni bambino prima delle politiche in materia di avatars. ageplay sessuale non è consentito ovunque sulla griglia di partenza, indipendentemente dal voto ". "9) 토지에 어른 아이 아바타 수 있습니까? 어린이 아바타로 계정이 다른 주민들은 어른처럼 검증으로 토지를 사용할 수있습니다. 그 아이를 선택하는 아바타와 자신을 표현하기 위해 대변하지 않습니다 미성년자 계정 소유자. 아니 역시 성인용 콘텐츠를 호스팅하는 모든 성인 토지가 될 것입니다. Zindra 보호 많아 토지의 기술적 측면에서 콘텐츠의 안전한 성인하지만 될 것입니다. 그러나이 사전 아이 아바타에 관한 정책을 변경하지 않습니다. ageplay 아무데 성적은 허용되지 않습니다 그리드에 관계없이 평가합니다. " " ![]() |
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06-28-2009 17:13
And yet the question still remains: Adult content that is a parcel that is deemed Adult by the owner but does not have the sex balls or sexual activity present AT THE MOMENT. Is the child avatar allowed there? Maybe someone will hazard a guess without cutting and pasting LL vague policy. Because if it was clear we would be wasting our posts in the 'ignore this and let it die' thread. Again, even if the poseballs are not present, the script still is. No they are not allowed in proximity to such items/situations. This has been answered clearly time and again. Spamming the same question through the forums doesn't change the answers just because you don't like the response. _____________________
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06-28-2009 17:25
Well great.
Now Lias is sending me angry PMs for posting that Don Quixote pic. Total crap. If you have something to say Lias. Say it in front of everyone. No one is posting so i can get "pats on the head" as you said in the PM. I am posting that pic because nearly EVERYONE IN THE THREAD and PRIOR THREADS disagree with your wild ass extremism, which when it comes to child AV's is akin to Don Quixiote jousting windmills. Deal with it. Don't PM me or IM again - EVER. if you want to smack a woman down, do it in front of everyone. _____________________
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06-28-2009 17:28
There is nothing worse than participating in a thread, and someone from that thread, sending you angry IMs or PMs claiming they dont want to derail the thread or make it public but just wanted to insult you or say some angry crap to you.
If you can't say it in the thread - don't PM it, don't IM it, don't notecard it, keep it to yourself, or just say it in public and deal with the reply. Because if you PM me your drama, i will reply to it in public. Remember that. _____________________
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06-28-2009 17:34
ZOMG CHILD AVATARS!
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06-28-2009 17:46
Don't mind me Lias.
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06-28-2009 18:28
There is already a thread dedicated to this.
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06-28-2009 18:52
Oh noes! You posted a pic!
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06-28-2009 18:53
And yet the question still remains: Adult content that is a parcel that is deemed Adult by the owner but does not have the sex balls or sexual activity present AT THE MOMENT. Is the child avatar allowed there? If course it's clear. If there's no adult content or activities in the vicinity of the kid toon, then there's no adult content or activities. The policy is about WHAT IS ACTUALLY THERE, not the rating or what someone plans on doing in six hours. So, go ahead and snap your trap on me and get it over already so we can move on to something else. ![]() _____________________
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06-28-2009 22:18
Why would a person in a child avatar go to a parcel marked 'Brothel'? Because the current rules permit it, that is why. Child Avatars are the only avatars directly mentioned in the TOS for a reason. One can look back in these threads and see their response to this issue and understand that they have a problem figuring out what is an inappropriate depiction of child avatars/ Sadly Zindra will prove once again that people wearing child avatars need special restraints in the TOS so they do create more negative publicity for the entire platform.
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06-28-2009 22:28
...Child Avatars are the only avatars directly mentioned in the TOS for a reason.... "child" does not appear. http://secondlife.com/corporate/tos.php http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php _____________________
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06-28-2009 22:37
More invented reality.... Please.. Please!! PLEASE!!! Quote official documents and quit posting paraphrased nothings in order to support your agenda. (=_=)
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Lias Leandros
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06-28-2009 22:38
We've had a number of questions from Residents regarding Linden Lab's policy regarding sexual "ageplay" (depictions of, or engagement in, sexualized conduct with avatars that resemble children). This practice has been disallowed in recognition of our Community Standards, complaints from Residents, and international laws, so it's important to understand the definitions. Under our Community Standards policy, the following items and actions involving or appearing to involve children or minors are not allowed within Second Life: * Real-life images * Avatar portrayals (*LOOK HERE) * Other depictions of sexual or lewd acts https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010 Imnotgoing: You will talk your way around that also - But no other avatar type has these restrictions placed om them. And we need more clear restrictions on child avatar peopel to keep them out of Adult business' that do not have sex acts on their lawns. _____________________
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