Jack - Why allow child avatars on Zindra?

There is no gap. If you have a parcel or location that contains sexually oriented content and behavior, then a player playing a kid toon is facing instaban for being caught showing up in it. This is about as draconian a regime as I can imagine. And you think it's not strict enough?

You mean like they actually do?

It's not just the child avatar community pointing out that your arguments have no basis in reality.

That's like saying the Jewish community had a few tumultuous years around the middle of the 20th century.

We're not letting you have your Kristalnacht.

Of course, the child avatar community posted blanket denials in over 300 pages of forums while they secretly huddled, acknowledged these concerned and are working on a solution that will be effective for the entire SL Community, Linden Lab and the Internet Watch Groups.
Based on the fact that child avatars have been the center of negative issues since 2007 (pedo Scandal, SL5B ban and protests and now Adult Zindra) I do not see the child avatar co-existing Peacefully at all.

Nobody is laughing at anyone's concerns. What I'm doing, along with quite a few others, is pointing out the major flaws in what appear to me to be invalid concerns as they're presented. (=_=)

You hack up my quote in order to benefit the statement you want to make. Maybe there are still (sexual)ageplayers. But, the second statement is a MUCH more important part of the argument...

I wish I knew the tag for making things bold. But, I guess bold only works for the ~visually~ impaired. (>_<

Basically, whatever (sexual)ageplayers do exist, are probably walled off in their own private-sim ghetto with a VERY clear understanding that they're violating documented guidelines in regards to their activity. I severely doubt, to the greatest degree, that they'd ever venture out into mainland strictly out of fear of the termination of their account. Even moreso on (Adult) land, given the climate now. (=_=)

Again, at the risk of repeating myself...

... In fact, you're probably helping perpetuate it because all of your statements of intended actions such as ARs and the like are probably being carefully studied by a (sexual)ageplayer who is building a strategy to avoid getting ARed and terminated. You're probably helping perpetuate it because someone with a borderline fantasy has now found that they have more to be afraid of in SL and will have to take their kink somewhere else... Maybe eve real life? You're probably helping perpetuate it because you're drawing attention to people asking to walk on a street while the ones who actually want to get on the poseballs will NEVER show up around your place or show up in your field of view. (=_=)

So, while you're rallying against child avatars walking on streets or shopping in stores that have a word (Adult) in the land description... There's probably a mass child-orgy going on in an estate sim you don't even have access to. There's probably a soon-to-be kidnapper getting his candy-van warmed up because she's afraid all this attention her kink is getting online is driving her away. Does it warm your heart that you're distracting people from real issues? Are pixel kids THAT important and dangerous to you? (=_=)

You speak of the "Corporate Decision" to block kid AVs from participating in SL5B. Yet, in the documentation supplied in regards to the event, there is no mention of kid avatars being restricted. It was a very 'hush-hush' operation of notes being returned by one or two coordinators stating that they were "respectfully declined" and really probably only hit the blog after people started asking questions. Besides that, I ask that you provide proof of this "Corporate Decision" or I'll just chalk it down as yet another invented reality on your part. (=_=)

On the other hand, the permittance in non-sexually oriented (Adult) land locations of child avatars is clearly documented right now. A corporate decision, as I see it. I can't imagine a Knowledge Base article being posted without at least a proofreader involved. Much ado about nothing. (=_=)

I FEEL A BAN ON SEX COMING UP !!

Your actually the one posting the pictures and mocking the most.
I only quote the ridiculous part of your ageplayer statement. It all apart of that blanket denial thing you all have going on.
And I said before - wherever there are child avatars there are sexual ageplayers.

So now Linden Lab did not decide to ban child avatars from SL5B - it was some 'selection committee' made up of non-Linden staff. More blanket denials and zero culpability.

So do I

We are part of the Bavarian Illuminati now too, right? Or maybe Freemasons?

Wow.

Ummm ... right? Look back at the documentation that was floating around a year ago as to who was in charge of the event. Some Lindens had involvement (they provided the sims after all) but a lot of the upper-level resident comittee quit after that decision ... coincidence? Whether it was the few Lindens or the residents is beside the point .... it was individuals.

Ah, so now everyone who opposes you is part of the Child Avatar Conspiracy?

False. False. False. You know this is false. You know this is false. You know this is false. You know this is false. I'll say it again, in caps this time. YOU KNOW THIS IS FALSE.

You've got a lot of gall making up this tripe. You couldn't even get a job at the National Enquirer with this stuff, they'd tell you that you're making up too much, and we all know that they don't print a thing there that's actually in touch with reality.

The pictures I post are examples of things that are NOT violations, even though you’re prepared to say they are. The thing is, they’re being presented publically, available for all to see, over a period of months. If I’m depicting a TOS/CS violation of any sort, one would guess that I would have had my account terminated long ago. (=_=)No. You only quote the wind up before the pitch because it can be easily manipulated to drive your invented reality. (=_=) See... I made an “If” statement. Not a “not” statement. (=_=)Wherever there are adult avatras, there are (sexual)ageplayers. Prove me wrong. You don’t know. You don’t have the criminal history of each and every avatar in your presence. (^_^)There’s nothing to deny because nothing is there. You’re the ONLY one who believes your opinion about the SL5B fiasco and apparently blinded yourself from the grid-wide effort to have an inclusive event of PG communities. Which, went off practically without a hitch this year, if nobody noticed. (^_^)y

it's likely that they've done a little research, even if that means simply reading this thread, and have since been working hard at distancing themselves. since her quixotic crusade began she has succeeded in alienating some who were her allies in the beginning.

23, read Desmond's reason for not posting anymore - he does not change his stance on child avatars in Adult Zindra - he just does not want to discuss it with many people that refuse to even acknowledge that depicting children in and around adult content in Zindra will be internet fodder and damaging to everyone on the platform.
No one wants to painted with the broad brush of scandal again just because people are not responsible enough to don child avatars and behave appropriately.

You have not convinced anyone who does not want child avatars in Adult Zindra to accept the idea. And no one can convince you that it will be a bad idea. But we discuss it anyway. And Linden Lab allows us to do so in their forums.

I have no need for allies or groups of people piling on agreeing with me and knocking back anyone else with an opinion that does not mimic mine. On the other hand - some do need that.

Desmond's reason is not "there is something wrong with kid toons", it's "There's a bunch of crazies who are going to go medieval on you, who needs the trouble?". That's not the fault of the kid toons, it's the fault of the crazies.

That is exactly what I said.

Desmond's logic is flawed, because the crazies will always find something to whine about. If it's not child avatars, it'll be any one of a hundred other things that they feel compelled to let everyone knows offends them.

If you want to ban things because someone might be offended by them, just turn off the adult content now.

(PG) offends me. (>_<

Well I do not see that being offended by the depiction of a unaccompanied child in an area in Adult Zindra that has escort lounges, adult stores and sex slave castles makes me a reactionary. Most unsavory situations could be completely avoided if Linden Lab would ban child avatars from Adult Zindra. Or if the child avatar community would choose not to enter such areas. Unfortunately we haven't seen any move in this direction from either party as of yet.

Child avatars are already banned from areas with inappropriate content.

Imnotgoing said she is ALLOWED TO set up residency 32 meters from a Brothel. That does not sound banned to me.

Do you understand the difference between a police force and a protection racket?

The area that you were complaining about had:

Zero escort lounges.
Zero adult stores.
Zero sex slave castles.

and you WILL not, for reasons that have been explained to you scores of times over...

and you've been harping on it ever since, rewording as many different times as you've referred to it, as well as convoluting the meaning behind it to fit into your own paranoid quixotic agenda.