Thank You SL

Aristotle Age verification is not required to access adult regions in Second Life.

The person who started this thread is incapable of understanding this

422 postings already about a non-issue, how nice.

Francoise, whether you are an alt of Debra or indeed a friend, I could not care less. Both of you are talking the same nonsense though.

How many times does it has to be stated: You do NOT have to actually verify with Aristotle, to access adult regions?? I mean, really, is it so hard to read? Buy yourself some linden dollars, and you are verified enough to enter. Use CC or Paypal for it.

Don't want to register payment information either? That means you do not want to put a penny into SL. So you actually bash the company that provides a completely free platform you are using, for not letting you into certain parts of it? How ridiculous that would be.

Okay one more time for people that have trouble reading...

NO NEED FOR ARISTOTLE VERIFICATION TO ACCESS ADULT FLAGGED SIMS !!!!!

which means:

NO NEED TO WHINE ABOUT IT EITHER.

Thanks for your attention.

Marcel out.

Okay. Teabagger.

Did you signup to Second Life with false details?

One of the many criticisms of Aristotle is, of course, that it's all too easy to verify with false details, thus contributing to the general nonsensicalness of it all. http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/SL_Verification_(Age_%26_Payment)_-_Issues_and_Information#Aristotle_Age_Verification_-_Issues

Firstly, I have brought a lot of money into sl indirectly, probably a skill you don't have. Secondly, I don't want to give them any info about me. It is bad enough that they know my IP address.

You people all seem to think everyone is quite happy to give details away. It might surprise you to know that most people in the world by a long way do not use credit cards or want to use a crappy business like PayPal, that I have tried. And if you think it is just third world countries where they don't like credit cards, have a look at Germany where there are only a few places that accept them for payment.

You mean you thank LL for messing up your SL right?

BTW the NSA doesn't care about SL. That would be DHS. And I doubt they care much now since Linden Lab is so much stricter on financial transactions than FinCen requires. Oh, and btw, most people should probably be more concerned about what FinCen is and does.

Sorry but the Triple X movies were nice and fanciful and all that but more than likely NSA has lost their technological lead they used to have 2 decades ago. Planes flying into buildings and all pretty much proves that NSA is no longer worth mentioning in conspiracy theories.

Now DHS, on the other hand, is currently hiring 1,000 cyber security pros so if you want to be paranoid well there you go. Not to mention the person in charge of that outfit is probably one of the absolute worst choices possible. But hey for the hackers writing various sl clients to steal epeni the open job billets are an opportunity to get off SL and get a real job for a change eh?

SL is owned and operated by LL and we are all subject to whatever rules they dictate. We have 2 choices and only 2 choices -- play by their rules or go elsewhere.

Bitch and whine all you want, but there are enough people willing to play by their rules such that your whining will get you no where. LL is within their rights to dictate what info must be provided to play with their toys.


NOW FFS LET THIS DAMN THREAD DIE.

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You know what they say about assumptions, right?



Why?



No, I only think that people have little to no reason to be upset over it. In fact, I think it as a requirement would go a long way to make everyone's, including their, SL experience that much better. Personally, I don't think they should have ever allowed for unverified accounts back on 6/6/6. Free accounts, fine, but still verified in some way. Would have gone a long ways towards getting rid of griefing, fraud, copyright infringement, and other illegal activities. When LL banned someone, they would have stayed banned.



Granted that credit cards are a minority in some places, but most of the people in those places also don't either have computers (at least ones capable of using SL), or have internet connections (at least ones capable of allowing them to use SL). Germany actually is not one of those places for either.

So, 28 pages of posts explaining why OP's assumptions are incorrect and off-target just weren't enough. Now she wants to completely restart the argument as if none of it happened?

This thread has

written all over it!

Ok, let's try a different angle, how happy are you to give your money to people whom you don't know, with no way of finding them again if they do a runner with it? I mean we give our details out all the time, what are you so worried about?

Well then... unplug your pc from the internet, and start a game of freecell.

Thanks for participating.

Debra is an old friend of mine, from a time when I had a joyful, fresh and new SL. When I still felt the wonder and beauty and fun, and knew little of the drama. I'd hate to see Debra leave SL, but I do feel her disappointment and frustration. She is a master builder and a crack texture artist. One time, Debra and I bought the same house. (Unknowingly) A very plain house, low prim and mod. I told her that her house looked a lot like mine, in shape only, that I had on another sim. I am the type to rez it, put a sofa in it and a tree out front and say, "THERE!" Debra's place looked like a totally different house by the time she was done retexturing and reconfiguring it. It was the same house, was hard to believe. Debra, I hope you work this out somehow, and find a way you can live with to remain in SL. You are a nice, kind person and I've enjoyed knowing you.

Has she *always* been like this though? I mean, several times in this thread-from-hell we have explained how she can account-verify without having to reveal more information about herself than she already has - but it seems clear she has an axe to grind with LL, and her whole purpose for starting this thread was not to find a solution, but to create drama.

I can't answer that, Katheryne. I think she's really disappointed and frustrated; she used to spend a lot of time and money in SL, she probably misses it. What can I say, I like her, as the person I met and knew in SL. I think we all rather doubt LL is reading these forums anyway, perhaps the angst would indeed be better placed in the blog, where the Lindens are. I don't know. Living in the USA, I shop online all the time with cards, maybe my level of confidence is higher than someone that doesn't use cards regularly and lives elsewhere. Debra has had other forum threads, with no drama at all, just discussion. So I have to think that she's really frustrated now. And yeah, you guys have explained quite well but if it's not in someone's comfort zone then no amount of explanation will matter.

Treasure, if she actually did spend money in SL, she IS verified. You cannot spend money without getting POIF. Okay, she could have given a friend cash of course,who transferred it into SL, in that case she has no PIOF.
Bottomline is that LL does not ask for anything weird, they provide a platform completely for free if one wants, and for certain parts of the platform you have to register some info. Not too much asked, I would say.

Preaching to the choir my friend, SL is too important to me (I know, that's sad, eh) to be standing on refusing to provide my cc info, lol. I provide it for many things that I feel less strongly about than SL. I agree, it's a business, like any other which you purchase a service from. And I agree they have a right to ask for what they ask for, I am not complaining, just kind of stepping in to kind of wave at Debra mostly.

Debra have you tried going to the adult continent and been refused? Just wondering why you think you can't go.

Ann, you really need to have a look at this video. Now I don't know if this is all true, but if it is, it should concern you.

http://www.septemberclues.info

Why do you include me in 'we'. I happen to like my privacy. You can do what you like with yours, just stay away from mine.

Thank you for your kind words Treasure. It's almost like looking back to the good old days. Leaving is not something I wish.

As I have said in a previous post, I have never brought money into SL, I have always earned it within SL, which was also spent by me and never taken out of SL. It may surprise some people here, but it is possible to make lots of money in SL.

Perhaps you have overestimated how much account or adult verification actually compromises your privacy.

Treasure, I cannot go there. Although my account says billing is active, it is not. I once tried to get it active through PayPal, but it didn't work. I did seriously thing about getting a SIM about a year ago. But I decided not to and to withhold my information.