Thank You SL

/me laughs. That's one selection I missed. /me grabs cane and wobbles over to verify on the old age verify selection. (sorry, mea culpa, just struck my funny bone. )

Well it started with people sharing and exchanging personal views and opinions and quickly devolved into 'prove it/write a thesis with bibliography.' It didn't happen in a vaccum.

That's not how they are describing it. Stage 4 alert or whatever. They are talking it up as a crisis and it is not. There are comparisons (the last link) on how many die per year from regular flu vs. from this one, and how many died from the flu vs. the vaccine with swine flu '76 tour and bird flu - the deaths from the actual flu in each case vs. garden variety flu or the vaccine was miniscule. Nothing this time says this will be different yet they are passing bills and such to force this barely tested vaccine - from a company with a horrible track record - onto people. If that doesn't worry people fine, just don't make me line up too.

You can say it's being defined that way (crossed into more than one country), but it is not. And that is not the point I've been making. (By that definition the common cold is a 'pandemic' too.)

Milla, the commentary to the side lists several websites, infowars is only one. Just simply saying "it's not credible" is obviously your opinion, not fact. For someone who keeps harping on facts you are in short supply of them in your 'debate.'

The video you are mentioning, even though you only mention it to ridicule it, lists several points that are not just opinion. That was also not the only video or link I posted. You are not adding anything to the discussion just by taking cheap shots. At least I am trying to give people what they asked for - articles, links, facts. The videos are (all but that one, which lists facts in text form) all from television news channels.

The one Argent takes exception to interviews a politician and another person holds the bill and quotes from it. By his definition of ample proof nothing exists unless the person has examined the very document. I haven't seen the Constitution up close either but I believe it exists. So what if I've only seen reprints or, once, a video shot of it? His refutation on that basis is ridiculous. If people disagree with the facts that's one thing but no one's debating facts after demanding them. So why even demand them.

Just to then poke fun at the people who are at least debating the issue(s) in the topic raised?

I may be reading that wrongly but, if you are saying that the current outbreak of swine flu isn't in more than one country, you are totally wrong.

You know perfectly well what I meant, and you know that it's not what you're implying here. I have no idea why you think anyone will be taken in by this approach, so I have to assume you're trolling now.

*plonk*

I have "sex stuff" in my skyboxes, and right down on the ground. In my house. In the hot tub on the front patio. My land is Mature, and I don't have any access restrictions or banlines.

Go ahead, AR me.

I am in compliance with policy. All of my sex stuff is for private use. None is advertised. None is for sale, even.

I rent apartments on part of my land. My residents have their own private sex stuff in their apartments. Those parcels can be found in Search, and I have a Classified ad for them too.

That is all in compliance with policy.

It's people who say that it all has to be hidden, locked away, and restricted that will eventually lower the bar, Dana.

The policy ONLY requires that certain types of explicit sexual content and imagery be limited to private residences, and that certain words not be used in advertising. The policy does NOT require residents to lock their doors, close their windows, or restrict access to their parcels.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

I'm going with that over some black helicopter site that claims vaccines that have gone through clinical trials are "untested" or that they're part of some secret government plot to bring in foreign troops to round everyone up into FEMA concentration camps.

We're at phase 6 with it according to the world health organisation, it's not me saying it, it's the world health organisation. As I said, we're getting into definitions of pandemic, you seem to think it means people dropping like the flies all over the world, that's not how the world health organisation define it.

I have to say I'd find some of these claims a bit more credible if they were being reported in reputable scientific and medical journals than on websites. The websites may point to studies, but if you take the trouble to follow the link, the conclusions drawn by the authors of the studies are a bit different from those drawn by the people who've made the websites.

The vitamin D one was a case in point. According the the study referred to, it would seem that vitamin D is good for you, and quite possibly it is. But nowhere did it say it's more efficacious than this vaccine, or that you should take one and not the other (presumably, the prudent course of action would be to take both).

And, were I a public policy maker weighing up my options for trying to prevent a pandemic as opposed to trying, myself, not to catch something, I'd be thinking about the likely relative outcomes of trying to get very large numbers of people to remember to take some not-inexpensive pills every few days for the next few months vs trying to get them to take one shot. I see, for example, that the guy who first noticed that it seemed to stop his patients catching flu was giving it to prison inmates under his care, and was thus rather better placed to ensure compliance than are more GPs.

And that's before I started worrying about someone coming across a website that said vitamin D is bad for you, and there's a conspiracy to cover up this alarming news.....

Wow, we don't even need a Politics sub-forum to discuss this crap for days.

And this is what's causing a lot of the confusion. Much of the public shares Melita's instinctive definition of a "pandemic"...a deadly, widespread, communicable disease that's killing large numbers of people worldwide.

The WHO definition is much more dry. And, IMO, it's far too liberal, because it doesn't really include a severity component. It only requires that the disease be widespread and communicable. As someone else said, that could apply to the common cold.

As for the government being concerned and "scaremongering"...

The government is aware that THIS pandemic (H1N5 2009 swine flu) may not be a severe pandemic. But it *might* be...other strains of flu have gone through the population as a mild first wave, then come back a few months later as a much more severe disease.

Also, even if the swine flu of 2009 isn't a serious pandemic, one of these days SOME disease...a mutation of the H1N9 bird flu, maybe, or a more communicable form of dengue fever, or Legionnaire's Disease...WILL be. The government is putting procedures in place to deal with a severe pandemic emergency, and part of those procedures is public awareness. It's only prudent preparation.

At the individual level, it's prudent preparation to get vaccinated. The assertion that vaccines are released "untested" is completely false. I'll admit that the testing of any vaccine against a rapidly emerging virus is, by necessity, limited. The vaccine developers are forced to work under a severe time constraint. Even so, the risks associated with taking an inactivated vaccine are far less than the risks of the disease itself.

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Originally Posted by Francoise Alenquer
So let me think. What is the point to adult verification here?





Yep...that's what i feel it was.

EXACTLY! One reason that hurricane Katrina proved to be such a significant disaster is that it clearly demonstrated that a lack of civic preparedness COSTS LIVES!

To illustrate this, here's a little skit put on by the SL Forum Players...

Girl 1: Oh my God! My parents are HORRIBLE!

Girl 2: What did they do?

Girl 1: They started this emergency fire plan and it is TOTALLY bogus! Do you know they want to be able to enter my room without knocking; without even asking for my permission?

Girl 2: No waaay!

Girl 1: WAY! And they say they can evict me whenever they want! They can make me stand out in the street in the rain or in the snow. They can even make me stand out there NAKED!

Girl 2: What fascists! I'm glad my parents don't have an emergency fire plan!

Girl 1: You're so totally lucky!

{END}

{Applause}

I can only guess that the performance of the SL Forum Players finally crystalized this issue to its very core.

Ahhh... it's so gratifying getting in the last word.

Yes, you're correct, but I also did say "or whatever".. I was in a hurry and skybox slipped in there
I still believe there's a use for it, and that getting rid of it now wouldn't be the best choice. That is all.



First of all.. nowhere did I say that it *has* to be anything. Go back and reread if you doubt that. I said "I.M.O."... "not using it when it's available and you can is risky". That refers directly and specifically to the grey area that this "adult stuff in mature land" clearly is, and that a "well, this isn't working either" decision from LL about allowing it wouldn't be so far fetched if it proves an issue for them. I didn't even mention TOS compliancy at all, only that I personally feel it's a smart idea to use that feature until LL unpuckers its asshole about it a little bit. Nothing more.

Damn! There went my last word.

I wonder how many people believe that those of us that try and spread the word about what is going on may in fact be preventing things happening allowing you all to say this will never happen. Personally I don't care whether you believe or you don't, I've done my bit in at least informing you. You are the ones that are gambling, not me.

From a David Icke recent newsletter part 1:

Hello all ...

I have known throughout the years that I have been warning about the global fascist agenda that what we are about to see was inevitable.

It was obvious that, despite the awakening of so many in the last decade, most people would need to see, touch, smell, hear and taste the fascism before they even began to accept that it was real.

This mass-reluctance to see the signs and act upon them was always going to condemn the population to some levels of the Orwellian control-system before it is eventually dismantled. I stress that it will be dismantled, but not before it has gone a lot further yet.

The question was never whether we would avoid the police/military state. I never had any illusions about that. The question was, and is, how deeply we will allow ourselves to be controlled by this evil and that can be answered by two other questions:

When are enough people going to give their total focus to bringing it to an end and when are the gofer administrators, dark suits and uniforms going to break ranks for the sake of their own families as well as the rest of us?

Well, we're about to find out.



The 'swine flu' vaccine is a line in the sand that will give us a serious fix on where we are in terms of awareness and backbone. If we meekly acquiesce to this most blatant attempt to gain access en masse to our bodies then frankly we deserve what we get.

No one can say they weren't warned, nor that they didn't have access to information exposing what was happening. Anyone who says they didn't know enough to say 'no' to the vaccine is lying to themselves, or looking the other way.

Even some elements of the mainstream media are highlighting the potential dangers despite the myopic perspective from which they view the world.

I have been making the point for years that we are at a fork in the road and we can't sit here gazing at the map anymore, refusing to make a decision. The swine flu vaccine is that decision.



Making the choice to seek freedom and expanded awareness will have its challenges, for sure, but the consequences of choosing ignorance and acquiescence are potentially catastrophic for those who do so.

Something very big is about to go down. I can't say exactly when, but we are talking weeks or months, not years. It has all been planned a very long time and it has been put together piece by piece while the population was watching the game, the game show or the soap, and dismissing those warning about what was to come as 'conspiracy nuts'.

You can always see the big picture in its component parts and I have kept a close eye on a council building in the last few weeks called the Westridge Centre, just down the road from me on the Isle of Wight in England.



Builders have been working there through the summer converting the top floor with a strict deadline of July 18th to finish the work and they were told they could not miss that deadline under any circumstances.

They became suspicious when different groups of builders were brought in to do different phases and this meant that no single group knew what they were actually building. In the final stages, the local builders were replaced by men in unmarked white vans.

It was clear from putting the dots together that this was something to do with the 'swine flu pandemic' that the crazies plan to engineer in the next few weeks and months.

I asked the council under the Freedom of Information Act what was going on at Westridge and what was being created there. A few days ago came the reply and it was no surprise whatsoever, just confirmation of what by now is obvious:

Dear Mr Icke

FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST REGARDING PLANNED USE OF UPPER FLOOR OF THE WESTRIDGE CENTRE, NEAR RYDE - CRM REFERENCE: IW09/8/24953

Thank you for your request for information dated 17th August 2009 which, as you are requesting information under The Freedom of Information Act, has been passed to me as the Departmental Information Guardian for the Strategic Asset Management Service.

I can confirm that the works being undertaken at the upper floor of the Westridge Centre are to enable proper utilisation of the accommodation for Council office use and as a Disaster Recovery Centre. The works have included creating better open plan accommodation, plus the installation of a lift and accessible toilets in order to comply with the Disability Discrimination Act.

What a coincidence that they should choose this time to establish a 'Disaster Recovery Centre' with a strict deadline for completion, but, of course, it is not a coincidence at all. A similar centre is being established in every county of the UK.

Sources at the Isle of Wight's only airport with a tarmac runway are reporting a sudden increase in military activity going too and fro in helicopters and I am also picking up talk from within the local council of plans to employ 'mass graves' to cope with the casualties from 'swine flu' this winter.

This may be just a small island off the south coast of England, but its very size allows you to see things that would be lost in a major town or city. What we are experiencing here is a smaller version of what is happening covertly everywhere - Europe, America, Canada, and so on. It is the microcosm of the macrocosm.

The H1N1 virus is called 'swine flu', but it is a laboratory-created combination of swine flu, bird flu and seasonal flu designed to justify a global programme of mass vaccinations that will inoculate a strengthened version of the virus with the intent of culling the population.


Researchers say that the strain can be traced to the work of Dr Jeffrey Taubenberger and a team of geneticists and microbiologists at the US Army Institute of Pathology Ft. Detrick, Maryland, who used supercomputers to map, or 'reverse-engineer', the flu strain that killed tens of millions in 1918.

It is claimed that this virus was then given to the drug giant, Novartis, in Basel, Switzerland, which was once a component part of the Nazi pharmaceutical cartel called I G Farben. It was Farben that ran the concentration camp at Auschwitz and the company was fundamental to the Nazi war machine.

If it is 'swine flu', why are pigs not affected in any way? We were led to believe that it broke out in Mexico on a pig farm, but, apart from the idiotic Egyptian government ordering an immediate mass culling of pigs, the porkies have never got a mention since. If it is not swine flu, which it isn't, how could it have emerged from a pig farm in Mexico?

The United Nations food agency said there was no justification for culling pigs or limiting their movements as there was no evidence the virus affected pigs or made their meat dangerous. Yes, because it is nothing to do with pigs - it has been made in a laboratory.




Oh yeah? So where are the pigs?

The UK government has estimated that some 65,000 people will die in this country from 'swine flu' this winter. How can they make such estimation when the symptoms of 'swine flu' have been extremely mild for most people and the numbers have been falling rapidly in the late summer despite efforts to fix the figures to present a false picture?

The number of people claimed to have been infected with 'swine flu' has been massively inflated by false diagnosis and that is why the World Heath Organization said that it should be diagnosed by symptoms and not by testing.

As a result, we have had children dying from meningitis that was diagnosed as 'swine flu' and others suffering from diseases like pneumonia that they were told without testing was 'swine flu' by untrained, unqualified members of the public working at swine flu 'call centres' ludicrously set up by the British government. Some of those diagnosing over the phone are as young as 16.

The call centres, by the way, were being organised long before 'swine flu' emerged in Mexico in April. Like I say, all of this has been planned way in advance.

The authorities have been telling us what is planned ever since the laboratory-created 'swine flu' was released in Mexico. Government and medical representatives in Britain, France, the United States and elsewhere warned very early on that the H1N1 strain 'could strengthen' in the Autumn/Fall and that is precisely what they plan to make it do.

They want to have access to every human body on the planet to inject a range of poisons, immune-system destroyers and almost certainly nanotechnology microchips, and at the moment they are not going to achieve that.



There is far too much scepticism among the public about both the need for the H1N1 vaccine and its safety. As things stand, there is going to be an enormous number of people who refuse to be vaccinated or have their children vaccinated.

A poll of British doctors found that half of them were not going to have the vaccine and another poll suggested that 30 per cent of nurses were taking a similar stand.

This is all thanks to a gathering awakening to the reality of the world we are experiencing and the fantastic efforts of so many to spread the truth about 'swine flu' and the vaccine on the Internet.

In short, the elite families behind the swine flu conspiracy, notably the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, are not going to get what they want as things are at present. They know that and so the plan is to change 'as things are'.

These deeply sick people plan to increase the strength of the 'swine flu' virus to impose their self-fulfilling 'prophecy' about casualties and dramatically increase the fear that is designed to break the resistance of the population to accepting the vaccine for themselves and their families.

The World Health Organization, a Rothschild-Rockefeller creation, has insisted that the vaccine contain live 'swine flu' virus, and it is highly likely that this will spread the disease through the very vaccinations that are supposed - supposed - to protect people from it.

This can be done by direct inoculation of the virus and through a phenomenon known as 'shedding' when the virus passes through the vaccine recipient via faeces, urine, saliva and mucous membranes and onto other people. Oral polio vaccine was withdrawn in the US because of this very problem, but it is still used in so-called developing countries.

Live oral polio vaccination can give people polio in the form of a disease called
vaccine-associated paralytic polio, and live polio virus has been found in the faeces of babies for up to six weeks after vaccination.

Quite a thought when you consider that children are being given around 25 vaccinations and combinations by the age of two. Anyone fancy changing a nappy?



Genetic material from the measles virus has been found in urine up to two weeks after vaccination; live rubella virus has been discovered in the nose and throat for up to 28 days after the vaccine was injected and can be passed on through breast milk; vaccine-induced chickenpox has been shown to replicate in the lung and can be passed on through various means; FluMist vaccine sprayed into the nose contains live influenza viruses and it has been proved that it can be passed on by a recipient to other people.

They say that non-vaccinated children are a danger to the vaccinated, but we can see that, in fact, the opposite is the case.

Given this background, what more effective way can there be than to circulate a strengthened 'swine flu' virus than by a mass vaccination programme? This, it is clear, is what they plan to do - plus much more besides. They have other means of circulating the virus, too.

The World Health Organization announced in July:

'In view of the anticipated limited vaccine availability at global level and the potential need to protect against "drifted" strains of virus, it is recommended that promoting production and use of vaccines such as those that are formulated with oil-in-water adjuvants and live attenuated influenza vaccines is important.'

This statement was merely taken from a script written a long time ago and delivered on cue.

The term 'attenuated' means that the virus is reduced in strength, but that does not stop it infecting the vaccine recipient or being spread among the population. The 'oil-in-water adjuvants' are officially used to increase the effects of a vaccine by stimulating a bigger response from the immune system.

An adjuvant being used in the 'swine flu' vaccine is called squalene and this has the potential to increase the impact of the 'attenuated' live 'swine flu' virus and cause havoc in many other ways. Dr Joseph Mercola at Mercola.com explains the effect of squalene:

'Your immune system recognizes squalene as an oil molecule native to your body. It is found throughout your nervous system and brain. In fact, you can consume squalene in olive oil and not only will your immune system recognize it, you will also reap the benefits of its antioxidant properties.

The difference between "good" and "bad" squalene is the route by which it enters your body. Injection is an abnormal route of entry which incites your immune system to attack all the squalene in your body, not just the vaccine adjuvant.

Your immune system will attempt to destroy the molecule wherever it finds it, including in places where it occurs naturally, and where it is vital to the health of your nervous system.'

Squalene in anthrax vaccine has been fundamentally connected to the 'mysterious' outbreak of Gulf War syndrome among Gulf War veterans after 1991. A study conducted at Tulane Medical School found that virtually every soldier with Gulf War syndrome had antibodies to squalene, showing that their immune systems had reacted to it. The troops who did not have Gulf War syndrome had no anti-bodies to squalene.



Dr Viera Scheibner, a former principle research scientist in New South Wales, Australia, spent many years investigating the destructive effects of vaccines. She said of squalene:

'... this adjuvant [squalene] contributed to the cascade of reactions called "Gulf War syndrome," documented in the soldiers involved in the Gulf War. The symptoms they developed included arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), Raynaud's phenomenon, Sjorgren's syndrome, chronic diarrhoea, night sweats and low-grade fevers.'


The potential dangers of 'swine flu' vaccine can be seen with the experience in the United States after the mass vaccination programme in 1976. This was 'justified' by the death of a single person, an Army recruit at Fort Dix in New Jersey. A panic was then generated on the basis that he had died from a swine flu strain allegedly similar to that which killed tens of millions in 1918 (another vaccine-created disaster - see item at the end of this article).

It was later established that the recruit died because 'normal' flu had turned to pneumonia and this was compounded by dehydration and heavy physical work. He collapsed on a morning run. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) admitted that not a single case of swine flu was confirmed.

From a David Icke recent newsletter part 2:

The 1976 scare-them-shitless campaign

Mass vaccinations for 'swine flu' followed the death of the Army recruit and led to hundreds of people developing Guillain-Barre syndrome, an autoimmune disorder affecting the nervous system that triggers paralysis in legs, upper limbs and face, and an inability to breathe. At least 25 died and, longer term, the figure would have been far higher.

The drug companies and the World Health Organization (WHO) are telling us that the 'swine flu' vaccine is safe when it has been revealed that 600 senior neurologists in the UK were sent a confidential letter by government health officials warning of a coming increase in Guillain-Barre syndrome as a result of the 'swine flu' vaccinations.

The letter came from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, and warned neurologists 'to be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the ... vaccine'. A senior neurologist quoted by the London Daily Mail said: 'I would not have the swine flu jab because of the GBS risk'.

Great, eh? The government 'Health Protection' Agency tells 600 neurologists about the expected effects - but not the public.

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the United States have officially predicted 30,000 serious and potentially fatal reactions to the H1N1 vaccine while at the same time insisting that it be effective in only three out of every ten recipients. The requirement is even less for people over 65.


You might say that this was madness and it is on one level, because the people behind the global conspiracy are by any standards utterly insane. It is not bureaucratic madness, however, except in the way it plays out through the useful idiots. At its core, it is cold, calculated mass murder-type madness.

As I have been stressing for years, the same families, led by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, created and control the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and the Food and Drug Administration (and their equivalent around the world), and the pharmaceutical cartel, or Big Pharma. These bodies may appear to be unconnected, but they are all on the same team answering to the same masters.

Executives from drug giants Baxter International, Novartis and GlaxoSmithKline sat on the World Health Organization's vaccine advisory board that recommended mass vaccinations in July. They all move as one unit.

Baxter International of Illinois was exposed in February for contaminating vaccine materials with live bird flu virus sent to 18 locations. The virus was supplied by the World Health Organization and was mixed with seasonal flu viruses to produce a potentially deadly combination.

This 'mistake' - yeah, right - was only discovered when a laboratory in the Czech Republic tested the concoction on ferrets and they all died.

Now tens of billions of public dollars, pounds and euros are being handed to sinister corporations like Baxter International and Novartis to mass vaccinate the global population. No matter what the economic situation there is never a shortage of money when the agenda is involved, be it for wars of mass slaughter or vaccination programmes of mass slaughter. Killing people is big business - ask the weapons producers.


Austrian journalist Jane Bürgermeister has filed criminal charges with the FBI against the World Health Organization, United Nations, Barack Obama, a Rockefeller, a Rothschild, and others, after she uncovered a plot to cull the population with the 'swine flu' vaccine.

She said that bird flu and swine flu have been developed in laboratories and released on the public with the aim of mass murder through vaccination. Her filed document, Bioterrorism Evidence, correctly claims that the World Health Organization, United Nations and vaccine-makers such as Baxter International and Novartis are part of a single system under the control of a core criminal group that has 'funded the development, manufacturing and release of artificial viruses in order to justify mass vaccinations with a bioweapon substance in order to eliminate the people of the USA, and so gain control of the assets, resources etc. of North America'.

Bürgermeister's 'core criminal group' is the network of interbreeding families, like the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, known as the Illuminati. The plot she talks about is, of course, worldwide and not just in the United States.

Novartis and Baxter International applied for patents for this vaccine long before the engineered 'outbreak' in Mexico in April. Novartis made its provisional patent application in 2005 and it was approved in February this year. Baxter International applied for its patent in August 2008 and it came through in March, just before the virus was released in Mexico to start the whole thing rolling.

The sequence is this: patent the vaccine; release the laboratory-created 'swine flu' virus in Mexico; use the controlled and pathetic media to cause panic in the population over 'deadly' swine flu; tell the World Health Organization to declare a pandemic and demand vaccination for the entire human race; spread a strengthened virus in the vaccine and through other means to cause terror and hysteria to ensure that people line up for their jab of live virus. Oh yes, and get governments to give you blanket immunity from prosecution for the effects of your vaccine.

Drug companies would not coldly set out to kill and maim vast numbers of people? What?? That's their job. They have been doing it year after year since Big Pharma was created by John D Rockefeller, an asset of the Rothschild dynasty.

Shane Ellison was a medicinal chemist for drug companies Array BioPharma and Eli Lilly, but resigned in disgust at what he saw on the inside. He now promotes natural remedies under the title 'The People's Chemist'. He said in an article this week:

'As a young chemist working in the chemistry labs of corporate America, I watched as they promoted cancer causing drugs as anti-cancer remedies (tamoxifen). I also witnessed the pharmaceutically compliant media convince the world that depression was a disease and you needed the so-called antidepressant drug Prozac™ to treat it. I began to wonder, "How gullible are the masses?" The reaction to the swine flu scare answered this.'

American researcher Patrick Jordan uncovered World Health Organization memos dating from 1972 explaining how to kill people with vaccines by undermining the immune system, injecting viruses and creating an immune response so enormous that it kills the body. This is known as the cytokine storm.

The initial spread of Aids in the United States matched the locations of vaccination trials for Hepatitis B in homosexual communities and the initial outbreak in Africa mirrored the locations of mass smallpox vaccinations ordered by the World Health Organization with vaccine reportedly supplied by Novartis.

Big Pharma and the World Health Organization are killing machines and the cemeteries of the world are full of their victims. Gullibility can indeed be lethal.

Fear and gullibility - babes-in-arms syndrome, as I call it - will ensure that enormous numbers of unquestioning dupes race to the vaccine centres in the coming weeks and months. But the world is a lot wiser to what is going on that it was five, ten or twenty years ago and there are now very large numbers of people who can see through the lies.

This is where the police state comes in and the plan is to make the vaccine compulsory. We are already moving fast in that direction and what is now emerging in American states like Massachusetts is the blueprint for everywhere.


'Sir, we found one that's not had the shot ...'

The Massachusetts Senate has passed the flu pandemic bill S 2028 that imposes a state of fascism whenever the governor decides to do so in the wake of a flu pandemic - like, you know, the one they plan to engineer. The bill authorises the state health commissioner, law enforcement, and medical personnel to:

* Vaccinate the population

* Enter private property with no warrants

* Quarantine people against their will

* Arrest without a warrant anyone a police officer deems has violated an isolation or quarantine order

* Jail or fine at the rate of $1,000 a day anyone in such violation

Similar isolation orders are being implemented in Florida, Washington, Iowa and North Carolina. The rest will follow and the same is planned all over the world - if we stand for it.

An internal French government document has come to light detailing covert plans to vaccinate everyone in France without exception starting on September 28th and continuing until January. The document is dated August 21st and is signed by Rosaylne Batchelot-Narquin, the French Health Minister, and Brice Hortefeux, the French Minister of Interior and Overseas Territories.

It has been sent to the heads of the country's 'defense zones', law enforcement and regional health authorities. Some of its main points are:

* Medical personnel, medical students and medical army personnel can be compelled to administer vaccines or face penalties

* 'Vaccination centers' to be established in 'secure facilities' in every region and no medical establishments will be involved, nor any general practitioners

* Schoolchildren to be vaccinated at school by special mobile pandemic vaccination teams

* The public are not to be 'informed' until the end of September

Similar documents will be circulating in all 194 member states of the World Health Organization because all this is centrally coordinated.


French President Nicolas Sarkozy ... Illuminati to his fingertips.

Documents and statements that have emerged over the years make it clear that the Illuminati cabal and their bloodline families want to dramatically reduce the global population to perhaps as low as 500 million - more than six billion fewer than at present.

The 'elite' families behind the mass 'swine flu' vaccinations are the origin of the 'master race' eugenics movement with Adolf Hitler their most high-profile advocate. The Rockfeller family, who are Rothschild subordinates, financed Hitler's 'race purity' expert, Ernst Rudin, at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Munich, and many other leading eugenicists.

Rudin was president of the International Federation of Eugenic Organizations and a global figure in the eugenics movement which advocated - still advocates - the removal of 'inferior' people through segregation, sterilisation and extermination to create a 'better' or 'master' race.

The population cullers are the driving force behind the swine flu vaccination programme. The President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology in the United States warned this week that swine flu was a 'threat to our nation', estimated that 90,000 could die, and said everyone must be vaccinated.

This Council of Advisors is chaired by John P Holdren, the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology. Holdren co-wrote a book in 1977 called Ecoscience that details proposals to mass sterilise the population by medicating food and the water supply and to impose a regime of forced abortion, government seizure of children born out of wedlock and mandatory bodily implants designed to prevent pregnancy.

Holdren wrote the book with those infamous population-control extremists, Paul and Anne Ehrlich and have no doubt that such sterlisation plans have long been implemented - sperm counts have dropped by a third since 1989 and by half in 50 years.

Holdren has been desperately trying to deny that he supports forced population control after the content of Ecoscience was recently exposed. This is rather difficult, however, when you have co-written a 1,000-page textbook advocating exactly that.

The plan is to introduce compulsory vaccination and they are moving there step by step with the announcement this week that it will be mandatory for all military personnel starting in October.

Public resistance to compulsory vaccination makes even more sense of the story I revealed in 2008 about how designated police officers in each county of the United Kingdom were preparing for a 'coming war' and mass public protests in the streets. I have no doubt that a war is on the agenda, too, at some point, but it is clear that this preparation also involves the public reaction to compulsory vaccinations. This, in turn, connects with the establishment of 'Disaster Recovery Centres' in each county.

One of these designated 'prepare for war' police officers told his friend (who contacted me) that they were preparing for the military to be on the streets with the police to deal with mass protests.

Other uniform professions, like private security guards, traffic wardens and CCTV operators, would perform the other duties of the police while they were dealing with the protests, the police officer said.

This is happening with traffic wardens, who once dealt only with parking offences, now renamed 'civil enforcement officers' and given powers that were exclusively those of the police. The UK government also announced a new designation called an 'accredited person' - private security guards, CCTV operators etc., who will be given some of the powers of police officers.

The Pentagon has recently asked Congress for clearance to post nearly 400,000 military personnel throughout the United States in the event of an 'emergency' and 'major disaster' under the control of US Northern Command, or 'NorthCom'.

In truth, large numbers of these troops will not even be American. The military has been amassing an army of foreign troops to patrol the streets of America in the knowledge that many American soldiers will be reluctant to fire on their own people.

NorthCom is the domestic military operation created as a Problem-Reaction-Solution after 9/11 to 'protect' the 'homeland' from 'terrorists' (We the People). NorthCom is also responsible for 'theatre security cooperation' with Canada and Mexico. These people love their Orwellian language.

General Victor Renuart, the head of NorthCom, has produced plans for the miltary to work with FEMA, the Illuminati's truly evil Federal Emergency Management Agency, in the event of a major swine flu outbreak and is awaiting approval from Bush and Obama 'Defense' Secretary Robert Gates. It will, of course, be granted.

Renuart gave public testimony in March, a month before the 'swine flu' outbreak in Mexico, that NorthCom had prepared for a flu outbreak originating in Mexico. He said NorthCom was focused on 'developing and improving procedures to respond to potentially catastrophic events such as pandemic influenza outbreak ...' Was he a prophet? No, he knew what was coming.

I can't say when all this will kick-off in earnest, but you can see the pieces being rapidly moved into place hour by hour. The vaccinations will be underway in weeks and everything will follow from that as the months unfold.

We need to be strong and we need to be unified. What does someone's religion, colour or income bracket matter when you are faced with this satanic agenda? This is not about killing and maiming white people, black people, Muslims, Hindus or Jews. It is an attack on the health and freedoms of all of us, so we must meet that threat as One.

We need to come together in mutual support with unbreakable determination and a backbone that will not wilt.

No matter what the intimidation we must refuse the vaccination for ourselves and our families and make it as difficult as possible for the authorities to impose their will. If people react with violent protest, they will be handing all the aces to the police state. It is not a violent response that we need, but a calm and peaceful mass campaign of non-cooperation.

A system run by a few cannot function if the masses will not cooperate with it.

Calmness is essential or we stop thinking straight and never was there a more important time to think straight than in the months and years ahead before this control system is dismantled.

Hey, and you in the middle and lower ranks of administration in governments and their agencies; you in uniform, be it the military, police, whatever ... What the hell are you doing? You have children and grandchildren, too. What the hell are you doing?

Wake up, grow up, get informed and start to break ranks before you enforce a prison-state on your own families.

This is no time for faint hearts ... we came to sort out this fascist nonsense and the time will come when we will. Let us meet that challenge - look it in the eye - instead of running for cover.

One line sums it up ...

HUMAN RACE
GET OFF YOUR
KNEES.

Come on, let's go.

*blink*

Wow.... This guy makes Rush Limbaugh seem very reasonable and balanced in comparison!

What I find funny is that this sort of people who expect us to take all these government conspiracies on blind faith lest we be "people [who] would need to see, touch, smell, hear and taste the fascism before they even began to accept that it was real" refuse to believe in God based on the same level of blind faith.

Fascinating.

Rush Limbaugh is an Illuminati puppet.

It is not blind faith which shows that every president you have in the US proposes a continuation of a state of emergency that congress passes every two years. It is not blind faith being able to see how freedoms and rights have been removed step by step over the last 150 years.

Like I wrote in the other post: your gamble, not mine.

I'm not sure if this fits in the thread anymore, but I'll stick it in because it seems slightly relevant.

It turns out that in RL the Lethecus clan is about to be increased again (everything crossed), so we trundled along to the midwife yesterday for the 12 week scan.

Just out of interest I asked both the midwife and the consultant about the H1N1 vaccine and whether my wife should think about getting it.

Both medical professionals gave the same advice:

If it were them, given the speed that the vaccine was developed and distributed, they woudn't recommend it in our case unless there was another medical condition which might put my wife at risk.

The H1N1 virus is pretty mild as far as flu viruses go (according to them) and really for someone of my wife's age and health it's not worth the risk.

I know this is all anecdotal and trust me, I will be getting more medical advice before making a final decision, but it's just interesting given the debate here.

ROFLMAO!!!

OK, I am now convinced this entire thread is a huge joke. Well done, Debra and thanks for the chuckle! (although it would have been even funnier if you had saved the name 'til the end of the post so more people would actually read it all)

For those who don't know, Icke is one of the UK's national treasures. He was a popular spokesperson for the Green Party until a tabloid newspaper spiritual medium told him he was magic and he believed her, after which, the Greens wouldn't touch him with a 10' pole. Since then, he has devoted himself fulltime to expressing his "magic-ness".

LOL
LOLOL

stop now, please, my belly hurts ...