Thank You SL

Ban lines do very little to protect your privacy *anywhere*, you get more privacy (and more protection from observation by an illicit minor) by being in a skybox at 4000 meters with NO "security" than from being anywhere in the zone covered by ban lines.

So... there is barely a purpose to ban lines *at all*. The "age verification" ban will keep a huge number of adult-verified people off your ground level property, but do nothing to protect you from being observed by a minor. Linden Labs needs to remove it as an option.

You could have saved some typing by simply writing, "From a nutcase".

For the non-British readers, David Icke announced to the world, on national TV, that Sadam Hussein was dead - dead! That was before the invasion of Iraq. Here in the U.K. he was a popular TV sports presenter until he suddenly decided to become a complete nutcase.

David Icke? Oh come on! He went from being a goalkeeper for Coventry City, to sports presenter, to wearing purple and claiming he was some sort of Son of God and more recently claimed the Royal Family and influential leaders around the world are really reptillian style aliens!

LMAO!!! He said *that*??? LMAO!!!!

I didn't know he'd been a goalie though.


Debra:
You've completely shot yourself in the foot by posting that crap of David Icke's. Anyone who gives any credence whatsoever to anything of his cannot be given any credence themselves - ever. Your best bet is to get another avatar and start again

He sure did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Reptilian_humanoids

Boxcar Willie is a reptile? Not Boxcar Willie, surely.


Debra:
You really do need to get another avatar and start again after publically giving credence to that nutcase. Better still, wake up!

What does that have to do with what is going on now and what he wrote. I guess you missed him on Terry Wogan where Terry invited him back and had a red face from embarrassment as soon as it started because of the way he treated him 20 years ago and what David has turned into now. The fact is, you are just passing on what you learnt from the media. I doubt very much that you even have a clue what is going on in the background in the UK with a growing movement of people discovering what their rights are and insisting on them and showing at the same time how corrupt the courts are, and putting the courts in a position where they have no idea how to deal with it because what they have been doing has been unlawful. David Icke is one of those in the center of this. Unfortunately, people like you will continue to smear people as often as they can.

Fortunately for me, you have no idea what that is based on. Don't talk about something you have not investigated.

This is just the typical methods used to discredit people. Investigate yourself for once in your life.

Debra,

As I said before I support the conspiracy theorists to a degree, if for no other reason than they get us talking about things that would otherwise be taken on face value.

I've got to admit though, I am more on the side of the teasers on this thread in this case.

I've seen David Icke through all his incarnations (well maybe not all that he claims to) and he does tend to stretch even my capacity to care.

He does however still come out with the odd soundbite which makes me laugh with, not at him.

This was something he said back in 2008 when explaining that he would never take a seat in parliament because it meant swearing allegiance to the Queen:

"I don’t pledge allegiance to anyone or anything except my own conscience - certainly not to a woman who appears to spend most of her life with a face like a smacked a***.”

pro or anti-monarchy that's just funny!

Right, Debra. What investigations have you, yourself, carried out into the proposition that the British Royal Family, are, in fact, lizards?

No use pointing me to a website and saying, "David Icke says it's true so it must be."

Gambling on what?

That these theories from black helicopter websites are a bunch of crackpot nonsense?

I'll take that bet any day.

On the other hand, you're gambling that immunization programs are really is a secret Illuminati/NWO plot towards some undefined nefarious end and Boxcar Willie is a lizardman.

Good luck with that bet.

I thought we just had 8 years of attempted Fascist takeover. It's the Socialists' turn now, isn't it.

Sadly, you don't want to realise what an utter nutcase he is. I've done some research. No I haven't read any of his books, but I personally saw him declare that Sadam Hussein was dead - not may be dead, but was actually dead at the time he stated it. That was before the invasion of Irag. Only a nutcase would declare something like that as a fact.

I also did some research by reading in Wikipedia about him - today. I don't need to read his books to find out that he thinks some people are alien lizards. It's all there, written by other people who have read them.

Debra, David Icke is a nutcase, pure and simple. I'll go further and state that anyone who actually believes all his crap, is also a nutcase - they have to be to think that Boxcar Willie is a lizard from another world lol. On second thoughts, surely only a lizard could make a train whistle sound with his voice, so David Icke might just have a point there

You've painted yourself with the same brush, Debra.

Goodbye.

Oh I don't know about that.

If she was hawt, I'd probably still want to do her.

Why pick on the lizards, there are much more important things that he talks about. It is not something I subscribe to, but I know what he bases it on and it has foundation.

Isn't interesting that people here are trying to discredit him on things that were not in that newsletter, so trying to make what he wrote there have no weight. Even if you are all correct, when someone crosses the road and gets run over, does that mean the next time they will be wrong and get run over again? Of course not, but that is how people are treated. It says more about the critics than the people they are criticizing.

I have done nothing of the kind. All I have done is to not bend to pressure and am happy to take this garbage and post a few things. Nowhere have I said that I agree with everything he says or writes. How many people can you bring forward that believe everything you say or write?

Good bye Phil, to bad you're leaving. kiss kiss and waves as you become smaller and smaller in the distance.

My point exactly. Thank you for driving it home for me. WTF are you talking about? And, stop. Right there.

Do you honestly believe it is GOVERNMENT'S responsibility to preserve individual freedoms??? The fact that we have a complex set of checks and balances built into our government system helps keep things from getting ridiculous; but it is still every individual citizen's responsibility to protect his or her own freedoms and rights.

Let me say it again: It is still EVERY. INDIVIDUAL. CITIZEN'S. *RESPONSIBILITY*. to protect his or her own freedoms and rights!

The neat thing about our system of government is that they give us all the very tools we need to do just that! You don't need to hide out in an RV surrounded by barbed wire and hundreds of miles of Montana wilderness. You just need to educate yourself on the Constitution and in how the government works.

*facepalms*

Actually, if you were to ask someone 1900 if they thought what you have now, they would say it has become ridiculous. Just look at how everyone says the US is a democracy, when it is not. They seemed to have forgotten that it’s a republic where people are supposed to be protected from the majority according to the constitution, and where the states do as they wish too, rather than the federal government dictating how it will be.



Unfortunatly, 14th amendment citizens are not one of the people. If you really think you are, try using the constitution in court the next time you are before a judge and see what happens. US citizens are slaves owned by corporation and are citizens of the District of Columbia to pay off the national debt.

- “28 USC 3002” (definition of the United States as a Federal corporation never taught in civics class; go to paragraph 15) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html)

- “Grace Commission” (Confirmed that virtually ALL taxes actually go to the Federal Reserve Bank to pay interest on the U.S. debt to the banking families that own the International Monetary Fund (IMF): “With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.” J. Peter Grace, Cover letter, President’s Private Sector Report on Cost Control, January 12, 1984. Peter Grace was considered the Warren Buffett of his time, and the Grace Commission Report received widespread media attention as the gospel of Reagan’s so-called tax system overhaul.)



No, I know it better than you do. What you need to do is discover how they went about bypassing it.

- “27 CFR 72.11” (U.S. Inc. defines all crime as commercial as a result of the fall of the republic when the South walked out of congress in 1861 and the de jure congress, unable to raise a quorum, was replaced by Lincoln with the de facto corporate Congress; and the de jure district court of the United States was replaced by the de facto corporate UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT (http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_98/27cfr72_98.html)

- “Executive Order 6102” (government’s confiscation of your family’s gold and wealth under threat of 10 years in prison for failure to comply. As the Order specifies U.S. “persons” (eg. JOHN SMITH and JANE DOE), law enforcement was duped into enforcing against the general public a command that only applied to Federal employees and members of the armed forces.) (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=14611 or http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html)

- “HJR 192” (outlawing of the simple act of “paying with money” as a felony by substituting the lawyer’s parlor trick of “discharging” debts) (http://www.truthsetsusfree.com/HJR192.htm or http://www.nomoredebt.cc/hjr192.html)

- “Congressman Louis McFadden speech” (indictment of the Secretary of the Treasury and the Federal Reserve Board of Governor’s for treason by the chairman of the House Banking and Currency committee in 1934. In scathing speeches to Congress, McFadden said: “(The Fed) has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government.” This most knowledgeable man on banking also explained in vivid detail the method for recruiting the Federal Reserve to pay our debts as holder of the gold, and which is at the heart of today’s “tax remedies.” ) (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7006/mcfadden-frb.html or http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/3616/flaherty10.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_T._McFadden)

- “Lewis v. United States 680” (Federal Reserve Bank is privately owned: “…we conclude that the Reserve Banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the FTCA (Federal Tort Claims Act), but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.” Lewis v United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (9th Cir. 1982). In other words, the Fed enjoys no United States immunity from law suit because it is a Federal institution in name only. (http://nesara.org/court_summaries/lewis_v_united_states.htm and http://www.geocities.com/chrisforliberty/lewis.html)

- “Modern Money Mechanics” (The Fed’s concise operational manual showing how money AND INTENTIONAL INFLATION are created from thin air by the Fed and it’s member banks. The manual is very clear as to the power of created inflation to speed the process of confiscating your wealth. The section: “Who Creates Money?” and the final paragraph in “Bank Deposits – How They Expand or Contract” are worth extra attention.) (www.rayservers.com/images/ModernMoneyMechanics.pdf or http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Modern_Money_Mechanics/Introduction )

- “Grace Commission” (Confirmed that virtually ALL taxes actually go to the Federal Reserve Bank to pay interest on the U.S. debt to the banking families that own the International Monetary Fund (IMF): “With two-thirds of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and by Federal Government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government.” J. Peter Grace, Cover letter, President’s Private Sector Report on Cost Control, January 12, 1984. Peter Grace was considered the Warren Buffett of his time, and the Grace Commission Report received widespread media attention as the gospel of Reagan’s so-called tax system overhaul.) (http://www.freecanadian.net/articles/grace.html or http://www.uhuh.com/taxstuff/gracecom.htm)

- “31 CFR 103.11” (Promissory note is defined as a “monetary instrument:” “ Monetary instruments…Monetary instruments include…All negotiable instruments (including personal checks, business checks, official bank checks, cashier's checks, third-party checks, promissory notes (as that term is defined in the Uniform Commercial Code), and money orders) that are either in bearer form, endorsed without restriction, made out to a fictitious payee (for the purposes of Sec. 103.23), or otherwise in such form that title thereto passes upon delivery.” ) (http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2008/julqtr/31cfr103.11.htm or http://www.ffiec.gov/bsa_aml_infobase/pages_manual/regulations/31CFR103.htm)

- “NYUCC 3-104” (Promissory note is defined as a “negotiable instrument:” “(1) Any writing to be a negotiable instrument within this Article must (a) be signed by the maker or drawer; and (b) contain an unconditional promise or order to pay a sum certain in money and no other promise, order, obligation or power given by the maker or drawer except as authorized by this Article; and (c) be payable on demand or at a definite time; and (d) be payable to order or to bearer. (2) A writing which complies with the requirements of this section is (a) a "draft" ("bill of exchange" if it is an order; (b) a "check" if it is a draft drawn on a bank and payable on demand; (c) a "certificate of deposit" if it is an acknowledgment by a bank of receipt of money with an engagement to repay it; (d) a "note" if it is a promise other than a certificate of deposit.) (www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/3-104.html)

- “Senate Report 93-549” (The United States has been under dictatorial control since March 9, 1933. Report of the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency, Senate Report 93-549, War and Emergency Powers Acts, November 19, 1973. “Foreward: Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency…These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.” ) (http://www.scratchinpost.net/barefootbob/war_ep1.html)

- “Foley Brothers, Inc. v. Filardo, 336 U.S. 281 (1949).” (U.S. regulations apply only within the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. “It is a well established principle of law that all federal regulation applies only within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States unless a contrary intent appears.” )

- “Caha v. US, 152 U.S. 211 (1894)” (U.S. regulations apply only within the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. “The laws of Congress in respect to those matters [outside of Constitutionally delegated powers] do not extend into the territorial limits of the states, but have force only in the District of Columbia, and other places that are within the exclusive jurisdiction of the national government.” )

- “U.S. v. Spelar, 338 U.S. 217 at 222.” (U.S. regulations apply only within the U.S. territories and the District of Columbia. “There is a canon of legislative construction which teaches Congress that, unless a contrary intent appears [legislation] is meant to apply only within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.” )

- “Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901).” (Purportedly decided if the constitution applies to U.S. territories. In actuality, unleashed the great fraud of unlimited statutory power misapplied throughout the continental united States of America. Dissenting opinion of Justice Marshall Harlan. “…two national governments, one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions, the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to…a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will result…We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism…It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence.” In other words, a genuine de jure united States of America congress is always bound to enact laws within the jurisdiction of the constitution. He held tyo the obvious truth that congress does not exist, let alone have powers, outside the constitution. Harlan said, "This nation is under the control of a written constitution, the supreme law of the land and the only source of the powers which our government, or any branch or officer of it, may exert at any time or at any place."

- Section 802, Patriot Act. (Defining the People as terrorists. Defining terrorism as a maritime event. Excluding private meetings on the land from terrorism: “(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended-- (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.” ) (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Section802.html)

- “Senate Report 93-549” (The United States has been under dictatorial control since March 9, 1933. Report of the Special Committee on the Termination of the National Emergency, Senate Report 93-549, War and Emergency Powers Acts, November 19, 1973. “Foreward: Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency…These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens.” )

http://www.scratchinpost.net/barefootbob/war_ep1.html

Sorry, Debra, but you ask me to spend time investigating claims made about various matters by a chap who seems convinced both that members of the British Royal Family and Boxcar Willie are, in fact, lizards.

In other words, you ask me to spend time looking into claims made by someone whose relationship with reality seems, at times, strained.

Sorry, but if a clock is in the habit of striking 13 every now and again, I don't rely on its accuracy in other matters. It may well keep perfect time every now and again, but I'll want to check it against something more reliable before I trust it.

I've already wasted time looking at the website that made all the claims about the benefits of vitamin D -- both in its editorial and advertising content -- and then (which I suspect is more you did) looked at the scientific articles on which it purported to rely. And, not to my great surprise, I found that they didn't say anything like what the article claimed they did.

Yes, it would seem that vitamin D is good for you, and if you take it in sufficiently large amounts, regularly enough, you are probably going to be far less susceptible to flu (in general) and other infections than otherwise you might be. Nowhere, though, did I find any claims in the articles on which you and your websites rely to suggest that vitamin D is an alternative to vaccination against avian flu; one might infer that it would be prudent to supplement a vaccination with a course of vitamin D but that's all I could glean from the original sources.

Given the fact you clearly don't bother to read much of what you direct people to, and you don't seem to have much grasp of what an authoritative source might look like, why should anyone waste their time following up your remarkable discoveries on the internet.

There's a classic article by Richard Hofstadter, published in 1964, which, to my mind, more people ought to read, despite the fact some of his examples are a bit dated and it's specifically about the US. People don't change much: http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/the_paranoid_style.html