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Quick advice needed: What to do if you get in trouble with Goreans?

YekaterinaStankova Sirbu
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11-05-2007 07:11
From: Twisted Pharaoh
The problem with goreans is they are not roleplaying, they will probably try to find her RL info


You're joking right?
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11-05-2007 07:15
No, I am not. Ask a Gorean if they are roleplaying. Many don't separate RL and SL. Of course there are many roleplayers in Gorean sims but those wouldn't stalk after your friend.
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11-05-2007 07:19
Methinks Twisted Pharaoh is wound a bit too tightly.
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11-05-2007 07:22
Chris: Ask a Gorean if they are roleplaying and listen to the answer.
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11-05-2007 07:24
From: Twisted Pharaoh
Chris: Ask a Gorean if they are roleplaying and listen to the answer.


Were that the case, they would never use OOC chat, right?
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11-05-2007 07:26
From: Twisted Pharaoh
Chris: Ask a Gorean if they are roleplaying and listen to the answer.


Every group in SL has members who aren't RPing. In the last big Gor Thread we had, a RL "Vampire" posted attacking the Goreans for not being in touch with reality. It is a condition of human behavior, not because they follow the writings of a semi popular SF writer, that they have problems.
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11-05-2007 07:32
From: Twisted Pharaoh
No, I am not. Ask a Gorean if they are roleplaying. Many don't separate RL and SL. Of course there are many roleplayers in Gorean sims but those wouldn't stalk after your friend.

This isn't stalking. This is a pissing contest. The friend acted up in their sandbox, they retaliated, it got ramped up. acoording to the OP, the friend is going to back at them, so it's just gonna get messier.
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11-05-2007 07:32
Well, I checked again, it is true that it started as roleplay and many still roleplay but nonetheless some take it to RL. In this case I am quite sure they don't RP. Non consensual RP?

Here is an interview for you to read:

http://www.chatmag.com/news/040207_gorean_interview.html
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11-05-2007 07:34
From: Twisted Pharaoh
Well, I checked again, it is true that it started as roleplay and many still roleplay but nonetheless some take it to RL. In this case I am quite sure they don't RP. Non consensual RP?

Here is an interview for you to read:

http://www.chatmag.com/news/040207_gorean_interview.html


And some Star Trek fans go around wearing Spock Ears all day long. Doesn't mean the all do......or most do , even.

*I only wear mine on special occasions*
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11-05-2007 07:38
You should have taken the time to read the link instead of quoting what you didn't read :o)
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11-05-2007 07:56
From: Twisted Pharaoh
You should have taken the time to read the link instead of quoting what you didn't read :o)

I read it. A bunch of geeks read some trashy pulp novels, and decide to play in their little world fulltime. Their World,Their Imagination. The guy being interviewed needs to come up out of the basement every once in a while.
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11-05-2007 08:02
From: YekaterinaStankova Sirbu
Update: I have relayed all the advice you guys have given me. Apparently, she has decided to handle the situation by arguing with them until they give up. That's not what I would have done, but I hope it works out for her.

Well, you tried. We all tried. Evidently the two parties involved have somehow become interested in what each other have to say, since they keep talking!! 5'll getcha 10 that one side or the other ends up wearing a collar!

*grin*
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11-05-2007 08:10
From: Twisted Pharaoh
Well, I checked again, it is true that it started as roleplay and many still roleplay but nonetheless some take it to RL. In this case I am quite sure they don't RP. Non consensual RP?

Errm... even IF the people who are really serious about Gor ideas and philosophies decide to take Gor to RL and play Slave/Master/etc in their real homes, it's STILL consensual. A man can't just go around grabbing uncollared chicks out of the supermarket and dragging her home to make her a slave. I guess it's possible in some of the scarier third world countries, but anyone in the western world must by definition consent to being enslaved in the Gorean way. Non-consensual, pfft.
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11-05-2007 08:13
It's too bad posting Chat logs is verboten. something tells me this can be a doozy.
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11-05-2007 08:16
From: Oryx Tempel
I guess it's possible in some of the scarier third world countries, but anyone in the western world must by definition consent to being enslaved in the Gorean way. Non-consensual, pfft.


This is what makes me view ALL Gorean participants as role players. It *is* non-consentual in the books. And it cannot be in RL (or SL). At least with BDSM, the generally accepted line is SSC. Consent is built in.

Having said that, I have no doubt at all that for some participants, it can be a very real and moving experience. But it's not the books. Which is why I view RL Gor as a subset of BDSM for those people. And RP for the rest. :) Heh. That should get some backs up!
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You are definitely slutty in the best possible definitions of the word. Dirty, hot, and a little scary, but in a good way. I'd like do awful things to you, but I'm pretty sure you'd snap me in two like a twig and leave me cross-eyed, dizzy and confused. I'm giving you a 9.8, tied for the top rating ever given. Almost off-the charts slutty. Shame on you and congratulations. -- Trout
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11-05-2007 08:17
Its true!

If you look hard enough you WILL find Real Life Goreans!

Look hard enough you will find women who's RL husbands treat them like gorean sex slaves. Ive known a couple. It was all voluntary, of course.

LOOK REALLY hard, I mean REALLY REALLY hard, and I am sure you will find some Goreans that advocate actually capturing women IRL as slaves.

Of course look hard enough and you will find people who think Space Aliens will come by on a comet and take them with them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult)
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11-05-2007 08:18
But only if you are neutered and wearing the right brand of sneakers.
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11-05-2007 08:19
From: Chris Norse
But only if you are neutered and wearing the right brand of sneakers.


and dead.

Minor technicality.
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11-05-2007 08:21
From: Colette Meiji
and dead.

Minor technicality.


Neutered, dead? is there much of a difference?
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11-05-2007 08:24
From: Chris Norse
Neutered, dead? is there much of a difference?


Evidently quite a bit, if a bunch of RL virgins who live most their lives in their Mother's basements can claim to be RL goreans, vampires, and Investment fund managers.
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11-05-2007 08:35
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This is what makes me view ALL Gorean participants as role players. It *is* non-consentual in the books. And it cannot be in RL (or SL). At least with BDSM, the generally accepted line is SSC. Consent is built in.

Having said that, I have no doubt at all that for some participants, it can be a very real and moving experience. But it's not the books. Which is why I view RL Gor as a subset of BDSM for those people. And RP for the rest. :) Heh. That should get some backs up!

This is what I was trying to say; you said it better. ;)
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11-05-2007 08:54
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Evidently quite a bit, if a bunch of RL virgins who live most their lives in their Mother's basements can claim to be RL goreans, vampires, and Investment fund managers.


LOL. I didn't really need that last cup of coffee anyway. :p
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11-05-2007 09:27
From: YekaterinaStankova Sirbu
UApparently, she has decided to handle the situation by arguing with them until they give up.


Right, because THAT won't just act to encourage them. :rolleyes:
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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11-05-2007 09:28
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Right, because THAT won't just act to encourage them. :rolleyes:

Worked for me once.. wait.. no.. I think they just crashed... or muted me.. hmmm...
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11-05-2007 09:33
From: Okiphia Rayna
Worked for me once.. wait.. no.. I think they just crashed... or muted me.. hmmm...


lol, if they've gone through this much effort to pursue her, their pride/Gorean ideals probably demand they 'break' that uppity female. :p
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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