Quick advice needed: What to do if you get in trouble with Goreans?
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Czari Zenovka
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11-01-2007 08:24
From: Desmond Shang I doubt they will keep following her, unless she's being antagonistic. Here are some possible choices: 1) Say: Hey, this is all cool guys, nothin' personal, I'm going shopping. And forget it ever happened. Likely so will they. 2) Continue to ridicule and mock them, and possibly run afoul of the service terms (harrassing another resident). Not the wisest course... 3) NOT THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS, but Purely Hypothetically... ..."M'lord, I am new to your ways, but I find them strangely enchanting..." *goreans drag you into their camp* "This is your new master. You will learn our ways." "Oh, YES Master!!!!!111" *three days pass* "Master, this girl really, really, really wants the expensive clothing." "Even More, slave? I have spent a fortune on thee..." "Yes Master." *hours of shopping pass* "Master, this girl wishes to learn more about Gor." "Slave, I have read you the book four times. Again!?" "Again, O master!" "Sigh... fine." *the following day* "O master... wouldst thee be troubled if this girl was actually a man? You said you lived in Toledo. This girl's truck will be driving through Toledo tomorrow. May we meet, O master?" Just a point here: This is a mix of Medieval language with Gorean custom. Never saw "m'lord" or "thee" in any of the Gorean novels. However, it could confuse a Gorean with odd language so...could work *grins*
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Yumi Murakami
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11-01-2007 08:43
Don't panic!
In general, you should respect people's RP and try to avoid disturbing it. But this is only a social grace and part of being polite, not a law that's enforced. Contrary to what a lot of people seem to think, it doesn't become OK for anyone to abuse or harass you just because you are on their land. The only hard-and-fast rule is that if they ask you to leave, you should, and if you don't, they can eject you; they don't have to have a reason for doing either. As a corollary to this, they can ask you "is it OK if I shoot/cage you?" and eject you if you say no. But they can't just sledgehammer through and shoot/cage you without asking (and in the absence of any visible sign that you want them to).
The worst that can happen legitimately is that she could be banned from the Gor sim in question, but if she doesn't like Gor, she probably won't want to go back to the sim anyway, so that will be irrelevant. If Goreans are hassling her at other times, AR them. Yes, it's quite true that making smart-ass comments in the middle of someone else's RP isn't a polite thing to do, and I can understand why the Goreans would be angry, but unless it's repeated harassment it isn't against the TOS and two wrongs don't make a right.
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John Horner
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11-01-2007 08:49
From: Sammy Thielt She could just kneel down and meekly accept her new life as a slave. Just to throwing out other options...  Chuckle
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Ashley Ennui
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hehehe
11-01-2007 09:11
the gor folks are awful tight a$$ed for being into kinky stuff...  kitten and i got banned from one of the sims once...because we decided to have some fun by going there naked and running through the woods...kinda like being a runaway...and some girl didnt even rp it with us, just shot a cage on us and began lecturing us about how we didnt belong and blah blah blah...we tried RPing the capture even, but she was all stuck up and haughty...so finally it was...well then piss off, and we tp'd out...just as well, because we went to a "sorority house and knocked on the door and had a lovely RP with a really nice girl...she became a friend for some time afterwards..  basically she should ignore it..."appologize?"...jees...it isnt like she went and pee'd on the queen of englands leg or something...
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Cherry Czervik
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11-01-2007 09:13
From: Nika Talaj Haha! Well it doesn't sound like they were horribly aggressive, then. I don't think there's anything too serious to worry about here, particularly if she hasn't tried apologizing yet. The thing to apologize for is messing up their RP. Sounds like she could honestly say that she didn't even really know what RP was, now she's asked friends about it, lalala. But she should definitely also tell them that they are now stalking her, and she does not appreciate it. I WOULD tell them an AR and complaint to their city Administrator is coming if they continue, but of course that is her choice. I don't know why Goreans in particular tend to attract soooooo many humorless types. I think it's more that everyone with a sense of humor cannot bear to stay because Gor is, as Des pointed out, inherently hilarious. Whoever said that Gor has a lot of software folks in it is right. It is based on a scifi set of novels, which of course were largely read by nerds  (edit: oh and 14-year old boys, scifi's sweet spot target market. Which MIGHT be the types who are bugging her.) Nerds really should know better than to lose track of their sense of humor. John Norman wrote them, allegedly, as a parody of the Feminist movement. Was embarassed what was done with the idea but that didn't stop him writing them regardless. I think this sums up Gor best ... still funny after all this time ... http://www.rdrop.com/~/wyvern/data/houseplants.html***edit*** sorry but why was the whole story not said at first and, frankly, why was this post even made???! OK so she wasn't rude. That's a COME ON in a roleplay area ... that passes for flirting to someone with a certain mindset. Still, they should have given up very soon.
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Cherry Czervik
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11-01-2007 09:19
From: Cocoanut Koala And so is this! rofl You BAD, Desmond!
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Derevaun Debevec
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11-01-2007 09:23
From: Haravikk Mistral Tell her to go to a furry simulator =) QFT  If that doesn't solve the problem, try an evangelical sim, a neo-nazi sim, a satanist sim, etc, etc. It won't be very interesting to watch, but the likely I-take-my-SL-lifestyle-more-seriously-than-you-do pissing match will probably clear up their interest in your friend.
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YekaterinaStankova Sirbu
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11-01-2007 09:59
From: Cherry Czervik ***edit*** sorry but why was the whole story not said at first and, frankly, why was this post even made???! What do you mean? Just because you recognize it as a come on doesn't mean my friend automatically knows what to do. She didn't know about serious RP in SL. How is the problem magically solved now? As far as the interaction, remember I'm reporting it second hand. I don't know exactly what was said by whom because I wasn't there.
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Deira Llanfair
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11-01-2007 10:19
From: Cherry Czervik I think this sums up Gor best ... still funny after all this time ... http://www.rdrop.com/~/wyvern/data/houseplants.htmlQUOTE] Oh Cherry! The cruelty to plants bit is in another thread!!!!!! muchly??????? It's not English Thank goodness it's time to pack up and go home!
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Brenda Connolly
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11-01-2007 10:22
All you have to do with them is wave something reasonably shiny in front of them. It will put them into a trance. Then you can just run away.
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Faith Dancer
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11-01-2007 10:35
From: Ashley Ennui the gor folks are awful tight a$$ed for being into kinky stuff...  kitten and i got banned from one of the sims once...because we decided to have some fun by going there naked and running through the woods...kinda like being a runaway...and some girl didnt even rp it with us, just shot a cage on us and began lecturing us about how we didnt belong and blah blah blah...we tried RPing the capture even, but she was all stuck up and haughty...so finally it was...well then piss off, and we tp'd out...just as well, because we went to a "sorority house and knocked on the door and had a lovely RP with a really nice girl...she became a friend for some time afterwards..  basically she should ignore it..."appologize?"...jees...it isnt like she went and pee'd on the queen of englands leg or something... Eeps ... I did the roleplay thing ONCE just fer fun ... I was bored - so I went in to a sim dressed as a "free woman" ... in order to have a little fun with them (Goreans). As it were, I was captured by the panthers tribe - and became one of their slaves ... and - erm ... had a LOT of fun. I started major wars (on poipose, of course), played innocent, and constantly tested the patience of just about each member of the sim. I got to stay completely covered because I was a "virgin." I didn't want to run around half nekkie. The behavior of the "regulars" disturbed me - its not something I personally could even roleplay. I eventually left because it got boring and ... the panther who's tribe I was in (she was a leader) seriously got pi*sed at me. So I had my temporary fun ... and when I caused wars (I tried to cause something every day) and everyone was captured in the tribe (but me cuz I would hide in a bed) ... then I would tp all my non-gorean friends into the panther camp and we would play with all the bongo drums and stuff ... hehe .. Another friend and I *did* run nekkie once, on horses, etc., on a sim - and did the chicken dance or just ran around the goreans as they tried to "cage us". It wasn't in full role play then tho ... it was in the process of being built, so the rules were not currently being followed by anyone. I am not one to "purposefully" grief anyone ... but it was fun. Even made friends with one of the gorean males ... who laughed himself silly at our avies. Mine was puffing on a cigar. Anyway, to the girl who is *having* the issues with the goreans - if they are following her to places OUTSIDE of their sim, and harrassing her - definitely A/R them. And mute them too - there is nothing that they can "physically" do to her in SL. Have her keep copies of her chat logs to turn into LL with her a/r report ... Do this *only* if they don't leave her alone. Have her *not* make contact with these people. The only way that I know that they could have followed her into another sim is if they offered friendship and she allowed them to "map" her. Otherwise, its just plain sheer luck that they were in the same place. Erm - unless she teleported to a favorite on her profile, that is ... like - if she had her home marked on her profile ... Kk ... nuf said ... have fun all ...
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 10:36
There was one gorean sim for a while that claimed that you could not leave gor. If you were a slave you were always a slave until you deleted that account or were made free.
As ridiculous as that claim is, their authority ended at the sim boundaries. So there was no way for them to enforce their deranged concept of role play.
Which is the case here in this thread.
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What should she do?
leave the sim and never go back.
If they IM her she should mute them.
If she does those two and still is harassed somehow then file an AR for harassment.
Just like you would anyone who was bothering you that wasn't Gorean.
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3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 10:40
From: YekaterinaStankova Sirbu A friend of mine apparently had never heard of Goreans and knew nothing about them and wandered into one of their regions without seeing the warnings. When they asked her to leave, she made some smart ass remarks and since then there have been Goreans showing up and just staring at her and then sending her messages like "you've been marked and claimed." I explained about Goreans to her, but obviously someone has been pissed off. What should she do? Will they keep following her or were they just trying to put a scare into her? Quick advice needed. Thanks for your help. ignore. like you would ignore all irritants. easy.
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Cherry Czervik
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11-01-2007 10:43
From: YekaterinaStankova Sirbu What do you mean? Just because you recognize it as a come on doesn't mean my friend automatically knows what to do. She didn't know about serious RP in SL. How is the problem magically solved now?
As far as the interaction, remember I'm reporting it second hand. I don't know exactly what was said by whom because I wasn't there. This is true but was this entire thread REALLY needed? Especially the 'quick answer' bit. If you think it was then it was.
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 10:44
From: Ashley Ennui the gor folks are awful tight a$$ed for being into kinky stuff...  kitten and i got banned from one of the sims once...because we decided to have some fun by going there naked and running through the woods...kinda like being a runaway...and some girl didnt even rp it with us, just shot a cage on us and began lecturing us about how we didnt belong and blah blah blah...we tried RPing the capture even, but she was all stuck up and haughty...so finally it was...well then piss off, and we tp'd out...just as well, because we went to a "sorority house and knocked on the door and had a lovely RP with a really nice girl...she became a friend for some time afterwards..  basically she should ignore it..."appologize?"...jees...it isnt like she went and pee'd on the queen of englands leg or something... /me wonders why two naked girls never knock on his door. 
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-01-2007 10:44
From: Cherry Czervik This is true but was this entire thread REALLY needed? Especially the 'quick answer' bit.
If you think it was then it was. ..how many threads here really are *needed*?
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3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 10:45
on that note, did the OP's question really need to be asked in the first place? where's the common sense here?...... 
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spinster Voom
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11-01-2007 10:49
don't you have ban-lines up chris?
d'you think i could get one of those nice gorean gentlemen round to look after my houseplants then?
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Ashley Ennui
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well you never know... 
11-01-2007 10:58
its been a while since we went streakin...  maybe its almost time again  hehehe...
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Chris Norse
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11-01-2007 10:59
From: spinster Voom don't you have ban-lines up chris?
d'you think i could get one of those nice gorean gentlemen round to look after my houseplants then? I have never said I use ban lines, except for targeted ones against certain people and groups.
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3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 11:00
do you wear fig leaves when streaking, or just go all buff?
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Okiphia Rayna
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11-01-2007 11:01
From: 3Ring Binder do you wear fig leaves when streaking, or just go all buff? where can i get fig leaves?
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Colette Meiji
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11-01-2007 11:02
From: Okiphia Rayna ..how many threads here really are *needed*? Three. Ask the owl.
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Hate Hastings
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11-01-2007 11:02
Time to arrange a forum cartel streak event? Which sim should be so lucky? 
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3Ring Binder
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11-01-2007 11:10
oh dear... 
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