Aye, some fella tried that back in the 1940's and it didnt work out too well for him
Not just in the 40's, politics is the art of oppression.
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11-19-2008 11:55
Aye, some fella tried that back in the 1940's and it didnt work out too well for him Not just in the 40's, politics is the art of oppression. _____________________
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11-19-2008 11:58
I think religion is the Art of Oppression. Politics pales in comparison.
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11-19-2008 12:31
@Chris and Porky:
I love listening to free thinkers. The problem is that the mob tends to slay them when they stick their heads up. You boys be careful out there... _____________________
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11-19-2008 12:38
I think religion is the Art of Oppression. Politics pales in comparison. Religion was created by man to control man ![]() _____________________
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11-19-2008 12:39
@Chris and Porky: I love listening to free thinkers. The problem is that the mob tends to slay them when they stick their heads up. You boys be careful out there... But we are all entitled to our free thinking ![]() _____________________
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11-19-2008 12:44
Wow, say teh word "dominant" and people have conniptions. Why not say "dominant"? Have any of you had a look at the men between 18 and 25 out there in teh REAL world? I do honestly believe that men in the 1960s and 1970s (and possibly 1980s) were switched on to the rise of feminism and became better mates for doing so. Yes - I know - there were the typical assholes also. But the dreary stumbling me-me-me young men that I have to face and choose as a mate in THIS day and age are spoilt and selfish. Jig, dear, it's because they're between 18 and 25. Once they hit 35 they start becoming human. The years between 18 and 25 are rip-roaring, testosterone-laden, "look at me!" years. Girls between 18 and 25 aren't any better. Just sayin'... it's all in the hormones. _____________________
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11-19-2008 12:56
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11-19-2008 13:01
I'll grant you, women do dominate in certain areas, such as ironing, vacumming, having babies and looking good in sexy underpants. But beyond that they are still pretty uselss and the only result of all that Bra burning in the 60's was the destruction of the ozone layer. /me ducks I'm not good in any of those. Maybe the underpants part. The rest, meh. ![]() _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:03
@Chris and Porky: I love listening to free thinkers. The problem is that the mob tends to slay them when they stick their heads up. You boys be careful out there... I will gladly take my chance against an oppressive unthinking mob. Pep (And do) _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:03
Granted there are many as you say but don't paint us all with the same brush If you're in the same bucket then the brush has no choice but to paint over you along with the rest. Kinda like "Tell me who you're with and I'll tell you who you are?" Interesting verse. |
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11-19-2008 13:07
Aye, some fella tried that back in the 1940's and it didnt work out too well for him /me whips off her pants and waves them in salute. _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:12
/me whips off her pants and waves them in salute. You beat Brenda to the salute lol _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:15
You beat Brenda to the salute lol It's a team effort. ![]() _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:15
I'm not good in any of those. Maybe the underpants part. The rest, meh. ![]() ![]() I wondered if the men who become women in SL are expressing their dissatisfaction with men today in the real world - and wishing they were part of the new dominant sex - WOMAN. Comments? Reactions? Yeah....and I wear my carrot avatar for the antioxidants. ![]() |
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11-19-2008 13:21
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11-19-2008 13:38
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11-19-2008 13:58
You beat Brenda to the salute lol _____________________
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11-19-2008 13:59
1 user cheered. ![]() Thank you! Oh don't be silly, I just said all that stuff to use the phrase 'pitting males against females' in a sentence... (does his best Beavis and Butthead 'heh heh heh heh' impression) grin _____________________
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11-19-2008 14:25
I think religion is the Art of Oppression. Politics pales in comparison. Religion hasn't had men with guns to do it's bidding in many many years. Unlike every politician alive today. _____________________
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11-19-2008 14:33
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11-19-2008 14:36
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11-19-2008 14:40
Her pants or the saluting ![]() _____________________
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11-19-2008 14:57
Religion hasn't had men with guns to do it's bidding in many many years. Unlike every politician alive today. What planet have you been living on for last 8 years? Politicians may order men with guns to kill people but the politicians are motivated and driven by their religeous beliefs. Take George W Bush for example. A born again Christian. In his address before Congress and a national television audience nine days after the Sept 11th attack, Bush declared: "The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain. Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them." Similarly, in his 2003 State of the Union Address, with the conflict in Iraq imminent, he declared: "Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity." These are not requests for divine favor; they are declarations of divine wishes. Then in December 2003 Bush said "I believe, firmly believe -- and you've heard me say this a lot, and I say it a lot because I truly believe it -- that freedom is the Almighty God's gift to every person, every man and woman who lives in this world. That's what I believe. And the arrest of Saddam Hussein changed the equation in Iraq. Justice was being delivered to a man who defied that gift from the Almighty to the people of Iraq." Further, this view of divinely ordained policy infuses the public discourse of several administration leaders, irrespective of their particular religious outlook. Credibal experts systematically examined hundreds of administration public communications -- by the president, John Ashcroft, Colin Powell and Donald Rumsfeld -- about the "war on terrorism" in the 20 months between Sept. 11, 2001, and the end of "major combat" in Iraq in spring 2003. This research showed that the administration's public communications contained four characteristics simultaneously rooted in religious fundamentalism while offering political capital: # Simplistic, black-and-white conceptions of the political landscape, most notably good vs. evil and security vs. peril. # Calls for immediate action on administration policies as a necessary part of the nation's "calling" and "mission" against terrorism. # Declarations about the will of God for America and for the spread of U.S. conceptions of freedom and liberty. # Claims that dissent from the administration is unpatriotic and a threat to the nation and globe. I think In combination, that these characteristics have transformed Bush's "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" policy to "Either you are with us, or you are against God." Sorry, rather lengthy way to prove my point but I have these references handy as I wrote my masters thesis on this subject. _____________________
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11-19-2008 15:36
ok.... the noteards i promised earlier. This is the current research on this stuff
![]() Intersex and Transgender - the science behind it Read on only if ye be not faint of heart. There's some serious science here, FABGlitter geekiness at its best!!!! If you don't want to read on, just remember, "the default is female." Sexual congruency occurs when there is agreement between and no ambiguity in: Chromosomal sex (46XX vs. 46XY) gonadal sex (ovaries vs. testes) external genitalia (vagina vs. penis) internal sexual organs (uterus vs. prostate) sexual identity (how a person sees themselves) external perception of sex (what another person sees when they look at you) Intersex disorders occur when there is ambuigity or incongruence with any of the above. As these typically do cause people to seek medical care, the term "disorder" seems appropriate to use. Chromosomal sex: SRY is the sex determining region on the Y chromosome. It determines whether the gonad develops into an ovary or a testes. This can be missing or moved to another chromosome, causing sex reversal syndromes. SOX9, DAX1, and WNT4 are all downstream effectors for SRY, defects in these can also case sex reversal syndromes. Gonadal sex: The testes is required for a fetus to form into a male. There are two critical hormones made by the testes - testosterone and mullerian inhibitory substance (MIH). True hermaphrodites have both ovarian and testicular tissue. These are very rare, 50% have chromosomes 46XX. External genitalia: The appearance of the external genitalia is the most common basis for assigning sex at birth (amniocentesis can determine chromosomal sex before birth). This is female by default, will change to male with testosterone and dihydrotestosterone exposure early in pregnancy. This appears to be the same time that brain patterning forms into either male or female, and when sexual identity is established, based on exposure to the same hormones. Male genitalia formation can be incomplete, leading to external genitalia which are "ambiguous". Please note, it is a cruel trick of nature that the gene for the androgen receptor is located on the X-chromosome, meaning that females (who can do without it) get two copies and males (who absolutely require it) get only one copy. Defects in the androgen receptor can lead to more female appearing external genitalia in males. Internal sexual organs: The internal organs are also female by default. The testes makes MIH, which causes female organs not to form, and testosterone, which causes male internal organs to develop. This happens independently on each side of the body. It is therefore possible to have both or neither set of internal organs. Sexual Identity: Disorders of sexual identity are also referred to as "transgender". Sexual identity is established early in preganancy, and is determined by the level of exposure of the brain to male hormones (testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, DHEA, DHEAS, and androstenedione). Again, the default is female. While this process and the formation of the external genitalia happen around the same time, and in response to the same hormones, there are often incongruitites between the two - relative mild changes in the genitalia (hypospadias in males, clitoral enlargement in females) can be associated with reversal of sexual identity. Surgical "repair" of these mild defects in babies prevents future correction to the appropriate gender role, the basis of the organization "Hermaphrodites with Attitude." Defects in the androgen receptor are seen in male->female transgenderism (remember, males really need this receptor but have only one copy). External Perception of Sex: Changes in physical features, usually the face, hand/feet size, wrist size, and musculature, are related to androgen exposure which occurs much later in life. These can be critical in individuals who are intersexed/transgender, as it can influence societal acceptance (and ultimate social success) in a given gender role. It's that first impression you get when you look at someone, "looks like a man" or "looks like a woman". Avatar-based online simulations of course remove this constraint, allowing transgendered individuals to socialize more freely in their chosen role. Clubs like FABGlitter accept these individuals as female, as long as they are consistent with their behaviors and appearance. Please contact me if you would like any additional information on any of these topics. - Rondo Catteneo HERMAPHRODITES WITH ATTITUDE PICKET PEDIATRICIANS [Boston, MA - October 26, 1996] It was the *first* public demonstration by intersexuals in modern history, as 26 gender activists from across the spectrum gathered on this unseasonably warm fall day to protest the American Academy of Pediatricians (AAP) for their continued support of Intersexed Genital Mutilation (IGM). The protest, outside the AAP's annual meeting, was jointly called by Hermaphrodites With Attitude (HWA) and The Transexual Menace. HEY AAP! Get Your Scalpels OFF Our Bodies!! We're not quiet. We're not well-behaved. And we're not going away. From Hermaphrodites With Attitude: We're here. We're queer. Stop cutting into our goddamn bodies! Disorders of Intersex Nearly all children born with intersexed genitalia have a disorder called Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia (CAH). In this condition, the adrenal gland cannot make a hormone called cortisol, and instead makes an excess of weak male hormones. The problem starts in the fetus - male infants appear normal, but female infants have gentialia that appear intersexed. They have normal ovaries and a normal uterus. Surgical correction is possible, and they can bear children normally. Where the trouble comes is with sexual identity, which can also be affected. Some of these individuals think and feel male, and if they've been "corrected" as female all hell breaks loose (the surgery is irreversible). There's no test that can predict what someone's sexual identity will be, so this becomes a very difficult situation to deal with, faced with a newborn and deciding what "sexual assignment" is most appropriate. ** please note, males with this disorder don't get a free pass. That hormone cortisol is needed during infections, without treatment they die suddenly in the first few months of life. As a result, nearly all states in the US screen for this disorder at birth. Most of the rest of children born with intersexed genitalia have defects in the androgen receptor. It is a cruel trick of nature this gene is located on the X-chromosome, meaning males only get one copy, and any defects will cause resistance to testosterone. The gene has two regions likely to mutate ("triple repeat regions" for the geneticists out there), and the resistance gets worse with each generation. People with complete androgen insensitivity appear female but do not have ovaries or a uterus - they usually find out about it when they don't have periods. Partial androgen insensitivity looks on the outside just like CAH, but these indivduals tend to have male sexual identity. Another set of androgen receptor defects is commonly seen in transgender individuals, who appear as normal males but have female sexual identity. Some interesting reading there for those interested. _____________________
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