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As You Like It - Men Becoming Women

Daros Jewell
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12-19-2008 09:06
From: Ricardo Harris
Very weak response.

This is the same exact tiresome response every male who plays a female uses to excuse themselves when asked why they play a female.



I wasn't aware they needed an excuse. I wonder what's really causing the sour grapes about cross-gender avis: the fact that men (and women!) can play their chosen SL gender effectively to the point where no one can tell the difference, or the fact that too many people are on SL looking for real life hookups and get their bubble burst when they find out it can't go any further than virtual? If the former, so what? If the latter, how is that anyone's problem but their own?

Just because people have expectations of you (in any world), that doesn't mean their expectations are automatically justified. What they want is what THEY want. It may not be what you want or expect, so why would the desires of a stranger take precedence over your own?

If you want to cross genders, then cross genders and it's no one's business but your own. Put it in your profile that SL is SL and no FL connection will happen. That way, it doesn't matter in the least what naughty bits you have under your FL denims, because they'll never see those bits and all you will ever be to them is a cluster of friendly pixels on the monitor.

If they expect more, see above.

If you want the possibility of real life sex, get your butt out of the computer chair and leave the house once in a while.
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FD Spark
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12-19-2008 09:16
From what I heard maybe a rumor Hitler was half Jewish. I seriously wonder if something really unpleasant happen with his Jewish parent as child and what would have happen if he had been allowed to stay in Art school and hadn't been kicked out. Every human being has the potential to be a Hitler, in same way every human being has the potential to be like Ghandi too. It's your choice to decide or let your hate decide for you.
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Love Hastings
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12-19-2008 09:18
From: FD Spark
Every human being has the potential to be a Hitler, in same way every human being has the potential to be like Ghandi too.


I don't believe either claim. Most people are only capable of mediocrity.
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Oryx Tempel
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12-19-2008 09:19
From: Love Hastings
I don't believe either claim. Most people are only capable of mediocrity.

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12-19-2008 09:23
From: Daros Jewell
If you want the possibility of real life sex, get your butt out of the computer chair and leave the house once in a while.
Oooh, burn.
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12-19-2008 09:30
From: Daros Jewell
...If you want the possibility of real life sex, get your butt out of the computer chair and leave the house once in a while.
(( I just hop on over to the other room... Especially during TV commercials... Married life is nice that way. )) =^-^=
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Steely Carver
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12-19-2008 13:15
From: Daros Jewell
I wasn't aware they needed an excuse. I wonder what's really causing the sour grapes about cross-gender avis: the fact that men (and women!) can play their chosen SL gender effectively to the point where no one can tell the difference, or the fact that too many people are on SL looking for real life hookups and get their bubble burst when they find out it can't go any further than virtual? If the former, so what? If the latter, how is that anyone's problem but their own?

Just because people have expectations of you (in any world), that doesn't mean their expectations are automatically justified. What they want is what THEY want. It may not be what you want or expect, so why would the desires of a stranger take precedence over your own?

If you want to cross genders, then cross genders and it's no one's business but your own. Put it in your profile that SL is SL and no FL connection will happen. That way, it doesn't matter in the least what naughty bits you have under your FL denims, because they'll never see those bits and all you will ever be to them is a cluster of friendly pixels on the monitor.

If they expect more, see above.

If you want the possibility of real life sex, get your butt out of the computer chair and leave the house once in a while.


Yeah, exactly. That's why I went with the derailment branch of the thread. The original thread wasn't as interesting.

Do what you want and if people don't like it, too bad.
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Brenda Connolly
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12-19-2008 13:33
From: Love Hastings
I don't believe either claim. Most people are only capable of mediocrity.


This. History is full of Mediocre people who have risen to great heights by virtue of just being in the right place at the right time. Our culture worships mediocrity, encourages it, and rewards it.
Yosef Okelly
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12-19-2008 13:39
From: FD Spark
in same way every human being has the potential to be like Ghandi

Yeah, especially men.
What did Gandi do? "Hey, everyone. Let's don't do anything. We'll just sit around and when they tell us to do something we will simple refuse to cooperate." The guy wouldn't even get out of bed to make his own lunch. I mean, Homer Simpson is in awe of Ghandi. The dude really knew how to do nothing. He's the Buddah of couch potatos everywhere.







(That was sarcasim, in case you couldn't tell)
Yosef Okelly
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12-19-2008 13:40
From: Love Hastings
I don't believe either claim. Most people are only capable of mediocrity.

I've know more than a few people that had delusions of mediocrity ....
Love Hastings
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12-19-2008 13:41
From: Yosef Okelly
I've know more than a few people that had delusions of mediocrity ....


LOL, I would have thought that was pretty rare...
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Yosef Okelly
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12-19-2008 13:44
Delisions of adequacy is the original quip but since you had already used the word "mediocrity" I thought it might fit.
Jig Chippewa
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12-19-2008 14:09
James I established a committee to create teh King James bible and it was published in 1611. I think people are referring to teh Latin Mass for Catholics which started to come to an end in teh 1960s.

But I dont think teh Vatican approved of King James bible since it was translated for Protestants.

I think "Catcher in the Rye" and "Huckleberry Finn" are still banned also. And Henry Miller (or is that New York public library?). As far as I am concerned its "As You like It" and I thumb my nose at censorship.
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12-19-2008 14:17
From: Jig Chippewa
But I dont think teh Vatican approved of King James bible since it was translated for Protestants.
Anglicans, please.
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Cael Merryman
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12-19-2008 15:06
From: Argent Stonecutter
Anglicans, please.


Could you narrow that down to one religious group, please?
Ricardo Harris
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12-19-2008 15:20
From: Daros Jewell
I wasn't aware they needed an excuse. I wonder what's really causing the sour grapes about cross-gender avis: the fact that men (and women!) can play their chosen SL gender effectively to the point where no one can tell the difference, or the fact that too many people are on SL looking for real life hookups and get their bubble burst when they find out it can't go any further than virtual? If the former, so what? If the latter, how is that anyone's problem but their own?

Just because people have expectations of you (in any world), that doesn't mean their expectations are automatically justified. What they want is what THEY want. It may not be what you want or expect, so why would the desires of a stranger take precedence over your own?

If you want to cross genders, then cross genders and it's no one's business but your own. Put it in your profile that SL is SL and no FL connection will happen. That way, it doesn't matter in the least what naughty bits you have under your FL denims, because they'll never see those bits and all you will ever be to them is a cluster of friendly pixels on the monitor.

If they expect more, see above.

If you want the possibility of real life sex, get your butt out of the computer chair and leave the house once in a while.






Well, I guess this means you play an av of the opposite gender, right? Trying to justify it with your philosopy doesn't make it any less an excuse then what it already is.
Argent Stonecutter
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12-19-2008 16:19
From: Cael Merryman
Could you narrow that down to one religious group, please?
The Church of England was not THAT fragmented during the Stuarts.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-19-2008 16:21
From: Ricardo Harris
Well, I guess this means you play an av of the opposite gender, right?
If you're against the war on drugs, you must be a pothead.

If you're against Prop 8, you must be gay.

If you're opposed to the RIAA prosecutions, you must be ripping off honest musicians.

If you're not behind the Inquisition, you must be a Secret Jew.

Your logic is not just flawed, it's downright poisonous.
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Love Hastings
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12-19-2008 16:24
From: Argent Stonecutter
If you're against the war on drugs, you must be a pothead.

If you're against Prop 8, you must be gay.

If you're opposed to the RIAA prosecutions, you must be ripping off honest musicians.

If you're not behind the Inquisition, you must be a Secret Jew.

Your logic is not just flawed, it's downright poisonous.


Oh come on! Ricardo's a hoot!
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Daros Jewell
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12-19-2008 16:36
From: Ricardo Harris
Well, I guess this means you play an av of the opposite gender, right? Trying to justify it with your philosopy doesn't make it any less an excuse then what it already is.


*blows kisses* Yeah baby, all the men in SL are women, and all the women are men. That's why you can't score. Really! It has nothing to do AT ALL with your personality or charm or lack thereof.

(And after I told this whopper, me and the Easter Bunny hitched a ride with Peter Pan to see Santa Claus. Because I figured, why stop there?)
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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-19-2008 17:57
SL is first and foremost a business and social networking platform.

For instance, a business can set a virtual meeting with avatars from all over the world and since one can buy their own land, the land owner may have stipulations on how an avatar looks if it's their business they are presenting.

To others it's a game of role play, whether testing out their acting skills or not. But, I don't see it as a game as what do I win if it's a game?

To other's on the social networking side it's a way to interact with people they have something in common with.

The varieties on SL are quite endless within this business, social, and/or "game" as long as within TOS and one should be able to set up their land as they see fit as it's their money they are spending.

However, I do remember when I was a young girl dressing up in my Mom's clothes. I was a child a little girl, my mother's clothes did not make me a woman nor give me any understanding into what it would be like being a woman in a male dominated world.

Yes women have more equality now, but still not enough. And playing dress up truly cannot give you a sense of what that gender goes through in day to day life nor what it's like to be that gender in real life.

Even for those wishing an operation to change their sex altogether, it is required that you life as that gender in rl, not sl.

As for transvestites, I think that's a small population of SL of which I have no idea how large or small, but I certainly don't think it's the majority.

Still as far as the OP saying more men are women in SL because of women being the new empowered sex, I wouldn't see what that would have to do with a rl male chosing to be a woman only in SL, even if that were true. I'd say it's more for sex play rather than being a new empowered sex called woman in rl.
Oryx Tempel
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12-19-2008 18:23
From: Jig Chippewa

I think "Catcher in the Rye" and "Huckleberry Finn" are still banned also. And Henry Miller (or is that New York public library?).

Where are these banned? Just curious.
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Daros Jewell
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12-19-2008 18:33
From: Avawyn Muircastle
SL is first and foremost a business and social networking platform.

For instance, a business can set a virtual meeting with avatars from all over the world and since one can buy their own land, the land owner may have stipulations on how an avatar looks if it's their business they are presenting.

To others it's a game of role play, whether testing out their acting skills or not. But, I don't see it as a game as what do I win if it's a game?

To other's on the social networking side it's a way to interact with people they have something in common with.

The varieties on SL are quite endless within this business, social, and/or "game" as long as within TOS and one should be able to set up their land as they see fit as it's their money they are spending.

However, I do remember when I was a young girl dressing up in my Mom's clothes. I was a child a little girl, my mother's clothes did not make me a woman nor give me any understanding into what it would be like being a woman in a male dominated world.

Yes women have more equality now, but still not enough. And playing dress up truly cannot give you a sense of what that gender goes through in day to day life nor what it's like to be that gender in real life.

Even for those wishing an operation to change their sex altogether, it is required that you life as that gender in rl, not sl.

As for transvestites, I think that's a small population of SL of which I have no idea how large or small, but I certainly don't think it's the majority.

Still as far as the OP saying more men are women in SL because of women being the new empowered sex, I wouldn't see what that would have to do with a rl male chosing to be a woman only in SL, even if that were true. I'd say it's more for sex play rather than being a new empowered sex called woman in rl.


Aren't you the woman who stated that if gay marriage was made law, your husband would be legally allowed to rape you up the bum?

Yeah. I kinda stopped taking anything you said seriously after that. Well, okay, before that, but I'm trying to be nice here.
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Milla Janick
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12-19-2008 18:39
From: Oryx Tempel
Where are these banned? Just curious.

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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-19-2008 19:12
From: Daros Jewell
Aren't you the woman who stated that if gay marriage was made law, your husband would be legally allowed to rape you up the bum?

Yeah. I kinda stopped taking anything you said seriously after that. Well, okay, before that, but I'm trying to be nice here.


Well no, I said if all types of sexual intercourse are the same does that give a heterosexual man the same right to say that anal intercourse is also heterosexual consummation and/or are one in the same as penile/vaginal intercourse during their sexual relationship called marriage even if the woman says "no"?
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