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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-19-2008 19:39
From: Avawyn Muircastle Well no, I said if all types of sexual intercourse are the same does that give a heterosexual man the same right to say that anal intercourse is also heterosexual consummation and/or are one in the same as penile/vaginal intercourse during their sexual relationship called marriage even if the woman says "no"? Do I have to ask the Pope this question or something? Well, even if I had too, I'm not Catholic. I don't believe the Pope has a right to dictate to me from "the chair". St. Peter's chair or whatever it is...? I am a protestant. Our higher commonly understood authority is what the Bible says not what the Pope says, plus the laws of the land we currently abide in. Yes Catholics are Christians. You might have misunderstood me. We believe Christ died for us, but our theologies are vastly different. Most Catholics prefer to be called Catholics rather than Christians, only some want to be called Christians. Any how, Hilter sounded like an atheist to me. Another subject altogether..
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-19-2008 19:47
From: Love Hastings Oh come on! Ricardo's a hoot! If he's serious about that kind of comment, he's a snake, not a donkey.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-19-2008 19:50
From: Avawyn Muircastle SL is first and foremost a business and social networking platform. SL is a more things than are known of in your philosophy. SL is a flaming sword that burns all the way down to the hilt. SL is a fresh coat of paint. SL is not to be taken internally. SL is crunchy and goes well with ketchup. SL is not a tame lion.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-19-2008 19:51
From: Avawyn Muircastle Well no, I said if all types of sexual intercourse are the same does that give a heterosexual man the same right to say that anal intercourse is also heterosexual consummation and/or are one in the same as penile/vaginal intercourse during their sexual relationship called marriage even if the woman says "no"? Unless you believe that marriage gives a man the right to rape his wife, what difference does that make?
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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-19-2008 20:02
From: Argent Stonecutter Unless you believe that marriage gives a man the right to rape his wife, what difference does that make? How would it be defined as rape if they are one in the same? Equal? I wanted to add something else. Catholics and Lutherans and perhaps others see marriage as a 'sacrament' while most or all other Protestants do not. We see it as "God said a man most leave his Father and Mother and cleave unto his wife." Wife has always meant woman, with breasts and the whole shebang. A sacrament is something else and not part of my life nor do I even want to judge what a sacrament is or isn't.
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Ann Launay
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12-19-2008 20:39
From: Avawyn Muircastle How would it be defined as rape if they are one in the same? Equal?
It's rape if the woman says no, regardless of marital status, and regardless of the type of penetration.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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LittleMe Jewell
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12-19-2008 20:52
From: Avawyn Muircastle How would it be defined as rape if they are one in the same? Equal? Are you implying that my husband has a "right" to sex (of any sort) simply because we are married? If so, what century are you living in?
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LittleMe Jewell
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12-19-2008 20:53
From: Oryx Tempel Where are these banned? Just curious. I actually went and did a quick check and found this pdf that actually shocked me: http://www.jessicaoosterhouse.com/resume/Banned_Books.pdf
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Brenda Connolly
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12-19-2008 20:54
From: someone the whole shebang. 
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Jig Chippewa
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12-19-2008 21:06
From: Oryx Tempel Where are these banned? Just curious. Dunno. S'why I'm making a sweeping statement. Then someone will gimme teh answer. But I think its New York library system innit?
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Jig Chippewa
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12-19-2008 21:13
From: LittleMe Jewell Are you implying that my husband has a "right" to sex (of any sort) simply because we are married? If so, what century are you living in? If I get a husband I'll not let him sleep in MY bed. He can do his thing and then find his own bed. I like the idea of a room of my own. I honestly cant stand a snuffly pongy man next to me - like sleeping in a haystack. Can you imagine those hairy thighs? Right near their you-knows. Kinda like furry tennis balls rubbing next to you all night. No thanks. And taht shiffle-staffle snoring - like a horse rubbing his bum against a banjo? They also sweat. Sex first tehn teh boot - off you go! Find your own bed, mate! First time I slept with a man, I coldnt believe the noises he made! Honest. Like sleeping next to a sticky walrus. I soon dumped him ... err, you were saying ...?
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Klunitz Aeon
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12-19-2008 22:01
From: Daros Jewell Aren't you the woman who stated that if gay marriage was made law, your husband would be legally allowed to rape you up the bum?
Yeah. I kinda stopped taking anything you said seriously after that. Well, okay, before that, but I'm trying to be nice here. Daros, I love you more than bears love honey. And why is this thread still kicking? I thought it was buried deep in the pits of craziness from whence it came! This thread is the new Jesus, isn't it?
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Scott Tureaud
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12-19-2008 22:08
I can't read that much.
But playing the opposite sex is the ultimate form of expressing control over it. In games where they aren't social I'll make a PvP alt or something along those lines (tiny healer priest in guildwars, since some people actually rely on clicking).
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Ricardo Harris
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12-20-2008 00:25
From: Argent Stonecutter If he's serious about that kind of comment, he's a snake, not a donkey. Serious? You have no idea. You just haven't caught on yet....and you have how many posts?
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Oryx Tempel
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12-20-2008 00:36
From: Avawyn Muircastle Well no, I said if all types of sexual intercourse are the same does that give a heterosexual man the same right to say that anal intercourse is also heterosexual consummation and/or are one in the same as penile/vaginal intercourse during their sexual relationship called marriage even if the woman says "no"? If a woman says "no" then it's rape, no matter the form.
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Oryx Tempel
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12-20-2008 01:00
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Oryx Tempel
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12-20-2008 01:23
Oh yeah - and can we just lock this stupid fucking thread?
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Love Hastings
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12-20-2008 02:28
From: Argent Stonecutter If he's serious about that kind of comment, he's a snake, not a donkey. I've seen enough of his posts to believe him very serious about such comments. Which is why he's laughable.
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Skell Dagger
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12-20-2008 02:34
From: Oryx Tempel Oh yeah - and can we just lock this stupid fucking thread? Nuuu! Don't lock it! It's entertaining! It's like... my daily dose of stupid. I look forward to seeing what new daft directions it's taken every day! 
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Jig Chippewa
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12-20-2008 03:54
From: Oryx Tempel Oh yeah - and can we just lock this stupid fucking thread? Cn you come up with a bit more variety of swearing and dispute? Oryx, seriously, what does it matter to you? There are other people who find it interesting. And Oryx, get a sense of humour.
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Jig Chippewa
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12-20-2008 03:55
From: Skell Dagger Nuuu! Don't lock it! It's entertaining! It's like... my daily dose of stupid. I look forward to seeing what new daft directions it's taken every day!  Oh yeah Skell you're soooooo much more intelligent than this. Lol. Gimme a break! LOL!
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-20-2008 04:18
bilbo, Emma, Lorna & Inigo laffs and laffs and laffs .... Your world, your imagination .. as long as it complies with mine .. yeah right!!
I'd forgotten I'd got the forum as home page on my back-up PC .. I was really going to top-up my mobile.
Oh and if you do run a cross-gender avatar you have to justify it? .... <guffaw>
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Skell Dagger
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12-20-2008 04:19
From: Jig Chippewa Oh yeah Skell you're soooooo much more intelligent than this. Lol. Gimme a break! LOL! I was referring to one person in particular who has been 'enlightening' this thread with her 'wisdom', not to those that are involved in the more serious side of the discussion (or involved in basely twitting her 'informed' pomposity). Apologies if I misread your quoted post here, but it came over as sarcasm to me.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-20-2008 04:20
From: Skell Dagger Nuuu! Don't lock it! It's entertaining! It's like... my daily dose of stupid. I look forward to seeing what new daft directions it's taken every day!  <delete>/me is off to slash his wrists . . . </delete> Pep ( . . . if he is agreeing with Skell!) Edited because /me realises after his next post that Skell wasn't referring to most of the posters in the thread
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Avawyn Muircastle
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12-20-2008 04:32
From: Oryx Tempel If a woman says "no" then it's rape, no matter the form. Well no, a marriage is not a legal marriage until it is consummated. Also, a marriage in some states of the United States can be dissolved and one party can file for divorce if one partner refuses to continue their marital duties of sexual intercourse. Saying no, not tonight honey I have a headache and then the husband forces himself upon her anyway, is rape. Say no, not tonight honey is okay in a marriage. But not for the whole length of the marriage. No, it's not okay to say no forever. One can file for divorce on those grounds. I can see this as a legal complication for heterosexuals because some men use anal intercourse as a means of birth control and so some heterosexual men would jump at the chance of having that legalized unto them within a marriage. Now sure some heterosexual couples may want to engage in it and already are, however a marriage cannot be dissolved because no anal intercourse occurred in our present laws. Yet if you say all types of intercourse are consummating a marriage, then that's what would logically be for heterosexual couples too as well as whats taught in schools. I don't believe in Catholicism, i.e., the Pope having the sole right to dictate the meaning of a scripture or add in scripture that was and is never there to the Bible among many other things that Protestants disagree with the Vatican on; however, I respect Catholicism as a truly valid long established religion and protected under the First Amendment, as I do Protestantism. I think I just read that the state of Florida banned same sex unions? Now, I personally believe that is wrong as I see same sex unionizing as a secular thing and not infringing upon any established religion or free exercise thereof?
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