Blondin, you have some Esplanin to do.

Around Mosh, there are other Mole builds where some of the land is starting to be claimed. Are those builds required to stay there?

Also, I thought there was no terraforming in the city areas? I noticed there is some going on in Yedboro, which is spilling over the sidewalk now and just looks bad.

the ToS doesnt really deal with governance,
the CS says even less about 'broadly offensive' content than it did before. they have updated it with language referring to zindra though, specifically this:

---Adult Regions, Groups, and Listings
Second Life is an adult community, but 'Adult' content, activity and communication are not permitted on the Second Life 'mainland.' Such material is permitted on private regions, or on the Adult Continent, Zindra. In either case, any Adult content, activity, or communication, that falls under our Adult Maturity Definition must be on regions designated as 'Adult,' and will be filtered from non-verified accounts. Other regions may be designated as either 'Mature' or 'PG.' For more information on how to designate land, events, groups, and classified listings, please carefully read the 'Maturity Definitions*.' ---

the 'maturity definition' is summed up in its first few lines:

---The Adult designation applies to Second Life® Regions that host conduct or display content that is sexually explicit or intensely violent, or depicts illicit drug use. Any Region must be designated Adult and therefore require account verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following:

* Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm)
* Photo-realistic nudity; photo-realistic means that an image either is or cannot be distinguished from a photograph
* Expressly sexually themed content, spaces or activities (whether or not photo-realistic); we will broadly define what is "sexually themed" to include any sexually oriented activities and conduct---


* https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010

why would it?

The police blotter isn't for people who file abuse reports.

This.

While I am with 'her cause' IRL, come on, this is just SPAM.

Did you encourage others to AR them also?

Or publically announce you had AR'd them? Knowing you have an activist type of audience.

The first respondent on the linked blog page Ian mentioned was doing exactly that.

I am confused how you don't make the connection.

What Free land ?

They paid for "Mature" land when it was what by today's definition "Adult" land.

For them to get to swap Mature for Adult isn't getting "free" land. Its getting land that has the content rules the originally paid for.

Unless Ian organizes AR squads, he is in no way being hypocritical in this thread.

Regardless of how anyone may feel about his virtual activities.

Well they do get *double* land, and part of it has double prims, but that said, I think it's a fair trade for the hassle some/most had to go through in moving there in the first place.

There will also be some who rode the coattails of all this and didn't suffer much at all and are flipping their new Zindra land but that's probably unavoidable.

As a public service announcement - the Big Red X in the right hand corner of your SL Window is a 100% foolproof virtual rape deterrent.

I would recommend people do not go afk for extended periods on sex beds although there is no measurable proof an avatar has had any sort of sexual activity.

why do they get double land?

Because they are keeping the mainland too, as I understood it.

So the original lot plus the Zindra lot is double land. And the Zindra lot has double prims on it.

Not all Zindra plots are double prim. Mine was not.

Really? I thought the Lindens said they all would be?

Yes, really. The double prim bits have just had more of the publicity I think. I would say the majority is not double prim, but I could be wrong.

Hmm. Did not know that.

Why did they do it that way?

Decided the extra tier they may get is worth more than the land?

Mature land is not worth much now.

If I recall correctly the tier is free during the exchange and then it kicks in later, but someone who's actually done the move will have to answer that one.

(One possible reason to keep both lots would be to diversify. Could have a regular shop or club on mainland and the 'old' version on zindra, or branch into something new. Also, zindra land doesn't have ot be used for adult things, it simply 'can' be. So it all depends. But with twice as much land you can do twice as many things. shops, rentals, or sell.)

Hmmmm

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Which decribes in detail an organized AR campaign...

A thread started by you... a quoted notecard by your admitted friend.




Now is it you just don't know SL vigilantism when you see it?

I don't see how you can claim to be unaware of organized AR efforts, its really incredible.

It is Odd

Maybe it guarantees that the "Used" land ratio will be stacked towards "Mature" since they let people keep the Mature and get the Adult?

Still, it isnt the Zindra Adult Land that is the free land. Its the old Mature land that is the free land.

Since only the Zindra land follows the rules of the land they originally purchased.

Yep but I never said free, I said double.

Well you could argue either way which land is free, I suppose. The Zindra is the substitute for what the rule change took away.

Either way they have two lots: they can sell one or do whatever.

Thank you for that...






Yeh, I've seen that note card before:



/////////
Just as in age role play there is nothing we can do about couples or groups enacting rape scenarios in private. There is however something we can do about the acceptance of rape role play in ‘public’. We are aware of the plans to create ‘adult’ Sims and see this not as an opportunity to ‘ghettoize’ rape role play but as an opportunity to take rape role play out of the Second Life experience.

......


We therefore call for the following to be designated as breaching community standards and to therefore be the subject of abuse reports with the usual consequences.

Groups or Sims advertising or promoting rape play

The sale of rape animations or skins depicting victims of rape

Pornographic images of rape in any form
//////

This definitely would be an example of organizing an AR squad.

Well, actually, no it wouldn't. Not even close, in fact. Please read it carefully before making that kind of allegation.

1) This draft (and, btw, it never got beyond the draft stage) quite clearly acknowledges that "there is nothing we can do about couples or groups enacting rape scenarios in private." It clearly distinguishes between public and private rape animations, and targets only the former. As I have repeatedly done here, in this forum.

2) It acknowledges that the group wants to take "rape role play" out of the "SL experience." Yep. I'd like to do that. But personally I'd settle for a consensual community-policed agreement to keep rape rp private.

3) The draft calls for the rape role play to be "designated as breaching community standards and to therefore be the subject of abuse reports with the usual consequences." In other words, it acknowledges that rape role play is NOT CURRENTLY "designated as breaching" the CS, and therefore NOT subject to abuse reports. Actually, that is the whole POINT of this document: it is not about sending out vigilante squads: it is about changing the CS.

Yep, there is a "campaign" afoot here: the group would like to see rape role play out of SL. So, again, would I, although many of us differ on the means by which this might be done. I want to see this achieved, at least in its public manifestations, through dialogue; it's the main reason I am on this forum.

What you do NOT see here is ANY mention of "AR squads"; indeed, the document (again) clearly acknowledges that rape role play is NOT subject to ARs. THAT is what the document seeks to change.

In the event, the group has decided on a three-pronged campaign, focusing primarily on education and research. There are three components to this: a public "teach-in" on the impact of extreme pornography, a documentation project (explicitly NOT involving ARs) to determine the prevalence and nature of depictions of violence against women, and (as a third stage) an approach to Linden Lab about the issue, based upon the outcomes of the first two parts of the project. The results of our research will be made public (this is the educational aspect, again) on the group wiki; I have begun compiling a bibliography of source materials that will "back up" the research and educational aspects of the campaign.

So, yep. There is a campaign afoot, and it is targeting depictions of VAW. I make no apology for THAT whatsoever. But there are NO vigilante squads emanating from the SLLUFN. There never have been and there never will be. And this document, which has been dragged up before, provides absolutely NO evidence to the contrary.

There are two online sources of information about the groups activities; you are welcome to browse them. The wiki (the first listed below), in particular, is concerned with the current campaign.

http://feministos.wetpaint.com/
http://feministnetwork.blogspot.com/

Except the swap part is optional.

So why did you AR the poseballs, defend doing so, and say you'll happily do it again when it wasn't against the CS?

That's taking the law into their own hands.

At least finally you admit your trying to legislate and censor peoples r/p.

BTW, when the plan comes off, who will decide what is violent?



As for taking it in into virtual indoors on a virtual computer game, you've got that in mature now, why take it to adult zones too? Why should people have to bend to your beliefs?

Do you have any respect for peoples consensual choices?

Can you understand your beliefs may not be ok for everyone? If you can, why doesn't the SLUFN simply just get it's own land instead of trying to force others to unwillingly conform to its beliefs?