Blondin, you have some Esplanin to do.

going back to the original post:



there is no explanation, because they don't feel they owe us one.

There's no project manager, there's no co-ordination of effort and no consistency in application. There's certainly no demonstration of respect for us as customers.

Since there's been around 20,000 forum and blog thread posts amply demonstrating that any surprise at this behaviour can only be considered dramatic licence.

Come to think of it, it's been a while since we had anyone swoop in, scream abuse at the lindens who studiously ignore us and then are never seen again here....

so there are some good points I suppose.

Well no I don't think they should be debating your agenda in this thread either -- I did say Ian disagreed in that other thread, rite?

I mean you saw it?

If they were Organizing ARs I would be complaining about that too.

It really has nothing to do with the subject matter you are upset about, that is a separate thing entirely, and thus I encouraged a new thread.

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Still the AR party stuff is separate from the Agenda stuff in that AR parties are pretty important for the people who cant get moved to adult land because of how Blondin made a promise he did not keep.

Maybe Blondin just reads slow?

And he will get to this thread in a few months?

Well, my original contribution to this thread was an expression of doubt that "AR parties" of the sort that you describe exist. Which seems to me pretty relevant to the OP. But nvm . . . if you feel the thread has been contaminated, that should be enough for me. The "purity of the thread" is a pretty hard and fast rule here, isn't it?

I will just respond to your penultimate point before riding off into the sunset . . .


Now, IMHO, there are three basic elements that define something as an "organized AR squad." (I know there is still some debate on this in scholarly circles, but just go along with me for a minute here . . .)

These are that they should be:

1) organized
2) issuing ARs
3) a squad

Now, see, where you lose me is that the activities of the SLLUFN have never, as a group, comprehended ANY of these criteria. Simply put, we have never organized squads to go out and AR people. In fact, we have never directed INDIVIDUALS to go out and AR things. Nor does our current programme envision such an action. As I have explained.

Now, I can't speak for other individuals within the organization. Hey, who knows, maybe we have a couple of beserkers who are running around ARing everything in sight. But if they are, they are doing so without the knowledge or the sanction of the group.

But take me, for instance. As I've said in this thread, I have sent out (some time ago now), in my illustrious SL career, exactly 4 ARs, all relating to a single sim.

Was I organized? Hmmm, well, that's not really my strong suit. What I can tell you is that the ARs I sent out were issued by me alone: I did not ask others in the group to join in.

Was I a squad? Well, I did have a friend with me, although she herself didn't to my knowledge AR anything. So, no, not really . . .

Did I issue ARs? BINGO!!!!!!!!

So, one out of three? Can I still be an "organized AR squad"???? PLEASE?

Have YOU ever ARed anything or anyone? Does that make YOU an "organized AR squad" too?

It wasn't about "purity" of the thread,

It was that your discussion had nothing to do with Blondin not keeping his word.

Not even remotely - and thus it had to go.

Especially since you got your last thread closed by our nearly nonexistent Moderators.

Last thing I need is to get my thread Closed without Blondin apologizing to everyone.

Once

For someone disclosing Real Life Information about his ex SL girlfriend in his profile about her being sexually abused as a child by her father saying she must have liked it, including her RL name and picture.

Not quite in the league of offensive Hovertext, but I felt I had no choice.

Interestingly, one of the other two ARs I have sent out was about a rather similar case.

Good for you.

/me rides off into the sunset . . .

You have a very good point. One down side for LL is that they have made their avatars etc. open for use, so any smart group starting a new viable and competitive platform can just add the ability to use the SL avatar meshes and poof, there goes LL.

Oh jeez, I hope the competitor makes a better mesh than the lame SL one.

I think it would take more than their avatar mesh..Others have the mesh and used it..Where they fail is having an economy..If they set themselves up where people can bring over their things they have bought from one grid to the other then they will only hurt their chances of having that strong economy they need..And if it is a lot of what is here already then i doubt they will do so good because really who would want another thing like SL..

Their first users will be users of other virtual worlds..It would not be new people to virtual worlds..That takes time to get going..You would have to keep the pioneers happy first..

A new world would have to be very different and an improvement or something with more attraction of some kind..Something that grabs and keeps them wanting more..If not they will come back like most have..

EDIT:: almost forgot to say..This is just my opinion..this opinion and 2 usd may get you a bag of sun chips if the price hasn't gone up on them lol

Except for the fact that the members of the "sex industry" are the primary tier-payers in SL... Without the "sex industry", SL would be a bankrupt IMVU-clone.

Oh come on, I know you've been following the Zindra threads.

If I was Blondin there's no way I'd even open a thread with a title like this. Are you guys actually expecting an answer?

Actually, the peole paying the most tier would probably be the land speculators that hold all of that yellow land on the map. Just because it is empty, does not mean that it has no owner.

yes and getting more and more confused with each one..My theory is if i keep it up i will revert to newb form and SL will seem like the first day i logged in..hehehehehe

you're not alone there. After 4 months and reading all those posts, attending the meetings and various discussions I can honestly say I have no idea what they're trying to do.

Linden Lab has no rules against Mass ARing. I report false ARs all the time - and the Lindens Acknowledge that these were, in fact, mass ARs by a vengeful griefer gang (everyone knows that several ARs at the same time against one person for the same infraction with result in them automatically being suspended while LL 'investigates'.

LL, to my knowledge, has never reprimanded any gang for this activity.
Notice Linden Lab does not admit they suspended before investigating. And they never will. AR Squads exist on the grid because there is nothing to deter their activities - in fact, they receive instant gratification for their actions and no blowback at all.

Of course I expect an answer!

He answered me the first time ... so here is his chance to try and weasel out of his statement.

I am well aware LL has no rules against Mass ARing

In fact they instead encourage it with quicker response times and poorly thought out decisions that seem to fly in the face of stated policy.

That of course does not make such a practice admirable nor right.

You may wish to remove your quoted bits from Linden Support, I believe directly talking about disciplinary action is against the Forum guidelines.

Not that I would ever report you, I have never reported a single post on these forums even after hundreds of personal attacks thrown at me over the years. .

...but some people are slimy about reporting even harmless posts.

Good luck with that.

Why thank you.

If you see Blondin tell him he really needs to catch up on his forums reading.

If I see him I'll let him know.

As a means of communicating with Linden Lab, I think the official SL forums are only slightly better than standing in your front yard and shouting.

Pfft, like they could hear me all the way across the country.

He read that other forum subsection, right?

I mean cmon why would he stop reading the forums? Did he stop caring about the Residents?