New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

Rezzing in infohubs is the only problem. Child avatars are staying away form Zindra in droves.

The fact that they are expressing concern about even rezzing in an area (infohub) where they have every right to be should be telling. These residents are concerned about even the appearance of impropriety. There is no dynamite monkey taunting here.

I've spent a fair bit of time all around Zindra since it was opened to the public, and the number of child avatars I've seen since land swaps started? Zero.

I wouldn't even call it "staying away". I have met entire crowds that haven't even realized anything is changed since they have ZERO interest in online sex. WAY off their radar, you know? (^_^)y

I'm sure you're right. My suggestions are preventative, rather than reactive, and they are, moreover, about personal choices rather than LL policy.


Again, I don't disagree. Which is why I didn't mention Zindra in my post, talking instead about "adult areas," which would also encompass private estates.


Yet again, I agree. Which is why I was not speaking about bans or other form of LL policy, but about personal choices.


As above: I am sure you are right. And that's great: it demonstrates that people ARE being responsible.

here is an experiment anyone can do..it's something that most places did before Zindra was a thought..
go to a bunch of places that host sexual content and activities and get their rules..

Then read the rules and see what percent allow child sexual age play let alone child avatars..

i'm sure you will see a large number of those places having it in their rules that they do not allow either..infact some go as far as to not let prim babies in as well..they had them in their rules long before zindra and i'm sure they make sure it is in there now..


Child avatars landing in zindra on accident or on purpose is allowed..Those that don't agree have that right..They have the right to not click i agree when the next TOS comes out..
see there is always a way

Irony...

Lias, claiming that someone should abandon a child avatar account and start again NPIOF, just so they won't accidentally rez in a PG hub that happens to be on an adult sim, because otherwise it's just a smokescreen for pedophilia, is rather like claiming any animal avatar who accidentally lands in that same hub must secretly be into bestiality.

You're the only one I've seen make such claims so I am unsure who the "many" are.

There is another test related to this you can do, go to places that do not alow child avatars and see how many people break that rule.. then do the same for places that don't alow adult avatars (yes those do exsist)

now I do realise that the results will be scewed, there are more adult avatars then child avatars and more places that don't alow child avatars then places that don't alow adult avatars but I think you will get the idea..

if you want it to be a bit more balanced replace places that don't alow adult avatars with places that don't alow nudety..

there is only one line anyone has to worry about..

it's the one that separates allowed and not allowed.. it's thicker than most think..
no matter how thick or thin it is in our own minds,LL has written it out so we can be certain of where the line is..because without it that line would drift back and forth till nobody was left standing

i don't hear child avatars in here trying to keep adult avatars out of a continent..
and i have never seen any rules in anyplace that singled out adult avatars..so ya i'm not feeling the balance thing you are reffering to..i've never 1 single time in all my moments in sl when bored doing random tps or any other time saw rules that said no adult avatars..

but just about every club even just regular dancing with no sexual theme at all and most have it in their rules to not allow child avatars..

all i am saying is land owners have the right to set their own rules on their own land and they are doing it..

now if you land in an area and you don't have any clothes on..it takes no time at all the tp home or get to an area that allows nudity..like mature..who's gonna sit there and try to get dressed? lol my first reaction is to get the hell out of there cause i'm nude lol

There are some people who see all of SL as their private nude beach. Unfortunately I've had to ban some (private land.)

Exactly.

I am not sure if Lias caught that the 'line in the sand' comment was in reply to my replying with the same exact words Lias used in an earlier post. Just swapping the point of view between a child an adult.

Teleporting out can be problematic if you're using a Restrained Life viewer. Given the unreliability of teleports, it can be problematic with any viewer.

oh ya i see a lot of those..

see a lot of people think that because someone lands nude in a pg area that it makes good argument against a child avatar landing on zindra..
it's not..
if the child avatar was nude landing in the same pg area they would be ar'd to..but if both adult and child avatars were clothed there is no reason for an AR..

there are no adult rated avatars anyways..just all of us adults doing our thang and some not liking what others are like to the point of being prejudice.

we are all adults or are supposed to be ..but some just can't get past the paint job it seems..

Well said Ceka.

(To me it is always behavior that matters most.)

there is always log out andset tp to home hehehehe

Lias knows they are lying to you. According to her all child AV's want to have nasty cybersex.

Assuming your home region being down isn't why you are there. Logging out does not instantly remove your avatar From SL either. It will probably be visible almost as long as it takes to relog.

The sensible thing for people to do is lighten up and not AR obvious "oops!" moments like that.

I like your idea better

The existence of rules and regulations should never be an excuse to check your intelligence and compassion at the door.

I think that when you get logged in at a random sim you should show up in a TRON outfit.

No Chris that's not good enough, what you need to do is to have your daughter live in one location and for any sex to take place on a completely different continent where your daughter is barred from entry. Obviously this is what happens in all homes where children live in the same home or street.

This!

As for no-adult areas: They do exist. I am aware of one in particular that exists on a residential sim, located at a rather high altitude so nobody can "accidentally" trip over it. And, yet, the ban list for this place is getting pretty full of avatars who do not respect the "no adults" rule.

I wonder how many child avatars are on the banlists of adult-specific venues? I'm pretty sure there are nowhere near as many of those as there are adults on the banlist of just this one child-only place.

I Am not sure why this such an outrageous idea for you. Thousands of paying customers just abandoned parcels they paid for and deleted custom builds to comply with the new Adult classifications. I did not see you post in outrage when we were asked to do that. I am not sure why you feel that a select few should be above making some drastic changes also.
One can secretly be into bestiality - but engaging in it wearing a Shirley Temple avatar is illegal. SEe the difference?
Well, I am an individual and I only speak for myself. But there have been others in this and the other child avatar thread that have stated quite clearly that they are not comfortable with people wearing child avatars in adult classified areas. You are just not paying attention.

Scandalous.....I remember as a kid, 'catching' my parents by opening a door they should have locked. I walked in and looked at them and thought something like...."wtf"??? and then got the dog who was asleep at the foot of the bed, and left.

For all that is good and holy, please do not start posting stories about catching your parents having sex. Thank you.