New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!
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Marianne McCann
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09-19-2009 14:16
From: Desmond Shang Starting threads about kid avatars + Zindra in the forums miiiiiight be sort of like setting a case of live hand grenades in a babboon cage I believe the term you are looking for is "taunting the dynamite monkey" http://daveintexas.wordpress.com/2007/07/04/do-not-taunt-the-dynamite-monkey/
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Milla Janick
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09-19-2009 14:19
From: Desmond Shang I personally don't think kid av's should be allowed over there Not like they're going there anyway. It's a moot point.
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Holocluck Henly
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09-19-2009 14:43
The kids I know have simply not gone to Zindra so there's no confusion or "accidental proximity" for which rabid proponents of SLKid avocide eagerly await with their finger on the AR button.
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Lias Leandros
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09-19-2009 15:30
From: Dakota Tebaldi just a heads-up to the unwary. It has happened at least twice so far that kid avs have ended up in Zindra accidentally, when the region they typically log in at is offline for whatever reason and they were rerouted to the infohub there. Now, I know this might give some people ideas; but fortunately according to LL, we can't be AR'd for this when it happens, even if we end up in "proximity" to the adult stuff. That also goes for unwittingly accepting random TPs to adult establishments, it seems, which someone seems to have tried on a couple of kid avs for who-knows-why. So yeah, this thread really isn't all that controversial. I just called it that to get you to read it.  Carry on. If you are RPing as a child - why did you adult verify? This makes it possible for you to be in Adult areas 'by mistake'. Better safe than sorry. Or just 'ooops - I had my child AV on and my friend thought it would be funny to teleport me to a orgy'.
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Milla Janick
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09-19-2009 15:34
From: Lias Leandros If you are RPing as a child - why did you adult verify? If I played a child avatar I would absolutely adult verify as some sort of proactive defense against against bogus underage ARs.
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Chris Norse
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09-19-2009 15:36
Lias, can you provide any evidence that Dakota has ever worn his child shape while taking part in sexual behavior? If not you owe him an apology.
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Milla Janick
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09-19-2009 15:40
From: Lias Leandros If you are RPing as a child - why did you adult verify? Proactive defense against BS ARs. I can absolutely see why anyone playing a child avatar would adult verify.
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Ciaran Laval
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09-19-2009 15:41
From: Chris Norse Lias, can you provide any evidence that Dakota has ever worn his child shape while taking part in sexual behavior? If not you owe him an apology. You've got more hope of seeing Jesus.
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Darkness Anubis
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09-19-2009 15:51
From: Treasure Ballinger Happens to me all the time, and not in adult regions either. I'll be naked, changing clothes and crash. If, on return, I can't be logged into my home , I end up wherever, naked. It's made me learn to change clothes quickly, not dither around wondering what to wear, and to change by putting on one outfit before removing the current one. Sad... Long long ago there was TP glitch that would litterally send you out into the void...nothing but water anywhere and no way to fly back in. I knew people that would just wait for that to happen and use that opportunity to change clothes.  just a semi humorous blast from the past.
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09-19-2009 16:35
From: Lias Leandros If you are RPing as a child - why did you adult verify? This makes it possible for you to be in Adult areas 'by mistake'. Better safe than sorry. Or just 'ooops - I had my child AV on and my friend thought it would be funny to teleport me to a orgy'. Because people who have zero concept of fantasy and reality think they're faced with RL kids when then see a short AV and simply AR away as if they're dealing with an underage account. (^_^) No sex is assumed when age verifying. (^_^) Enjoy your favorite tangent. (^_^)y
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Marianne McCann
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09-19-2009 16:41
From: Lias Leandros If you are RPing as a child - why did you adult verify? I don't know about him, but I'm PIOF/PIU, which is also used for the age verification. simply came from when I joined and from buying land.
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Lias Leandros
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09-19-2009 18:44
BUt don't you have to physically go through the adult verification process and use the correct viewer to get access to adult content?
I am saying that if your friends are not aware your going around as a child or you crash and end up in ZINDRA - why take that chance by adult verifying?
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Innula Zenovka
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09-19-2009 18:59
From: Lias Leandros BUt don't you have to physically go through the adult verification process and use the correct viewer to get access to adult content?
I am saying that if your friends are not aware your going around as a child or you crash and end up in ZINDRA - why take that chance by adult verifying? You also, of course, need to go through the adult verification process to get access to any private island flagged as Adult. That means, for example, any child avatar wanting to visit a friend on all bar one of my residential sims needs to be adult verified, not because the residents are in the habit of staging public orgies but because that's the only way they (and I) don't need to worry about constraints on their behaviour other than the ones I imposed they accepted when they bought or rented the land from me. For example, a very good friend of mine who spends most of his time as a child avatar for reasons that seem good to him, and whom I let use a building platform on one of my sims, needs to be adult verified.
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Vanessa Sakai
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09-19-2009 19:04
If you have payment info used you are verified (as far as Zindra goes).
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Milla Janick
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09-19-2009 19:16
From: Lias Leandros BUt don't you have to physically go through the adult verification process and use the correct viewer to get access to adult content? Anyone who has Payment Information on file with LL is adult verified, and the correct viewer is the only one available on the downloads page.
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Raudf Fox
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09-19-2009 19:37
From: Treasure Ballinger Happens to me all the time, and not in adult regions either. I'll be naked, changing clothes and crash. If, on return, I can't be logged into my home , I end up wherever, naked. It's made me learn to change clothes quickly, not dither around wondering what to wear, and to change by putting on one outfit before removing the current one. Sad... *nods* Yep. Just the other day, I was all set to work on a dress, and logged into SL. I found myself at a PG infohub. I was dressed, but I felt really sorry for the poor sots that wound up there nude. Did I mention that because so many of us wound up there is was lagging bad enough that you couldn't change clothing? Some better coding could be done. Like, "If the region you were last in is down, you'll log into your home. If your home is down, you'll log into the sim nearest your home sim. If that fails, the infohub nearest your home sim." Note, the word, "nearest." Preferably on the same continent as your home. I know full well that Bear is nowhere near my home.
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Milla Janick
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09-19-2009 19:42
From: Raudf Fox Some better coding could be done. Like, "If the region you were last in is down, you'll log into your home. If your home is down, you'll log into the sim nearest your home sim. If that fails, the infohub nearest your home sim." Note, the word, "nearest." Preferably on the same continent as your home. A short list of preferred alternate start points in preferences would be good, or allow users to pick one from their landmarks.
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Marianne McCann
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09-19-2009 19:44
From: Lias Leandros BUt don't you have to physically go through the adult verification process and use the correct viewer to get access to adult content? No. You can access the Zindra content by either Aristotle age verification, Payment Info On File, or Payment Info Used. So by using your payment info you are automatically age verified under the current system.
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Raudf Fox
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09-19-2009 19:52
From: Milla Janick A short list of preferred alternate start points in preferences would be good, or allow users to pick one from their landmarks. Hmm.. didn't think of that. It'd eliminate the whole violation of PG/Mature/Adult that they now have going on. If I didn't already know that LL never has the tools they need before they implement new rules/policies/stupidity, I'd be completely disgusted. As it is, I've gone past disgusted and into bemused.
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Tarina Sewell
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09-19-2009 20:45
From: Dakota Tebaldi just a heads-up to the unwary. It has happened at least twice so far that kid avs have ended up in Zindra accidentally, when the region they typically log in at is offline for whatever reason and they were rerouted to the infohub there. Now, I know this might give some people ideas; but fortunately according to LL, we can't be AR'd for this when it happens, even if we end up in "proximity" to the adult stuff. That also goes for unwittingly accepting random TPs to adult establishments, it seems, which someone seems to have tried on a couple of kid avs for who-knows-why. So yeah, this thread really isn't all that controversial. I just called it that to get you to read it.  Carry on. Can you AR a child avatar if in a mature sim?
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Scylla Rhiadra
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09-19-2009 20:48
From: Tarina Sewell Can you AR a child avatar if in a mature sim? A child avatar can't even be ARed in an adult sim, unless she or he is intentionally in the proximity of adult content, or engaged in adult behaviours. Kids are allowed on Zindra.
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Jig Chippewa
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09-19-2009 22:25
From: Treasure Ballinger Why, yes, there are penii there!!!  (j/k of course, I think it's as ridiculous as you do) I love "penii" - sounds like "pee in the eye"
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Tarina Sewell
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09-20-2009 06:27
From: Scylla Rhiadra A child avatar can't even be ARed in an adult sim, unless she or he is intentionally in the proximity of adult content, or engaged in adult behaviours. Kids are allowed on Zindra. You know, the only experience I have had with child avatars are from the ones who come into my shop during hunts, most are nice and dont go all childspeak on me and freakme out even more and a few I just found so cute I kinda bent a bit to he whole child AV kinda thing... I do not have anything overly adult in my shop so I dont care if they are there and I watch to make sure they do not use the few poseballs I do have... However I did have once incident with a child avatar wanting to use a blodlines on me... eww... in a children store to boot.... "shrug" and I do not allow them at carpe vino. furries oh yeah... but no child It makes people uncomfortable and they leave.
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Jig Chippewa
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09-20-2009 06:31
From: Dakota Tebaldi just a heads-up to the unwary. So yeah, this thread really isn't all that controversial. I just called it that to get you to read it.  Carry on. The trouble with kids is they cry wolf too many times.  You have to learn from "The Mistress" "Jig The EveryReady".
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Tegg Bode
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09-20-2009 07:54
I always have found that the only infohubs I end up in are the ones my accounts were born in, are new residents being born in Zindra?
They would have had to have been verified to do so I imagine, or set it as home?
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