New controversial kid-avs-in-Zindra thread!

I have stayed away from Infohubs since I was accosted by a Christian who was crazy. Made me wonder who else might be in this world.

But not EVERYwhere on Zindra, an important distinction.

People worry about kids in Zindra hubs but as I recall there are no poseballs in Zindra hubs and no nudity. You can be ARed for nudity or other things like that - there was even a list of rules posted.

Now if that avatar went to the orgy fiesta down the next sim then yes that is not good.

You cannot teleport to Zindra if you don't set your rating to "adult" in edit-preferences

So.. if you don't set your rating to adult in edit-preferences, will it still accidentally dump you in a zindra infohub ?

It it wont, the solution is all child avs should make sure their rating in edit-preferences isnt adult.

Anyone can go to Zindra who has payment information verified or who has done the age verification drill via Aristotle on this website.

Remember the child avs were sometimes sent to the Zindra hub because their home location was not available. When that happens you are sent to a random hub. So even if it's true that you must set your settings to adult (I haven't and I've been to Zindra just to fly around), the randomiser could probably still send you there. IF you have payment info or age verified on your personal account.

The real solution is for people not to AR someone landing in an infohub regardless of their avatar. There is no reason to AR anyone for that.

I myself have never been sent to a random infohub, it is the one each of my accounts was "born" at, if they were off line then it's apossibility. Has anyone here actually ended up at Zindra infohub because their location was unavailable?

All LL nead to do is ake Zindra infohub off the respawn and new spawning location list, hence I don't really see the point in infohubs at all for Zindra unless you started with a premium account asking for an Adult verified character.

I personally haven't had a "location unavailable" sending me to an infohub for maybe 18 months, but I'm usually somewhere on mainland, maybe private estates are more likely to be offline when people try to log back in.

These child avatars claiming to be respawning in Adult infohubs could more likely be deliberately teleporting there to try and revoke the adult policy because they feel persecuted in some way.

Kid toons *are* allowed in Zindra.

That can happen in mature areas too.

Yes, it has happened to me several times with more than one account.

I find it rare that I end up in the hub I was born in. I've not been directed to Ahern in years. Usually I end up in Korea, though I've been directed in the past to Waterhead, Arapaima, and once to Anzere.

To test out the verification accuracy maybe?

In order not to get the verification message every time I flew over land where the owner checked AV required to see what it did?

To prove I am an adult in RL and not a minor, which kid avatars are often accused of?

Is there some reason I should NOT age verify if I want to?

So do your Zindra friends know you are advocating people should NOT be using 1.23 now?

For just being there? Nope. You can not do it for just being in PG or adult either.

/me wipes Diet Pepsi off her screen, and follows Des out of the thread!

...and it begins.

*sigh*

Lias, did it ever occur to you that some kid AV's might want to own land or purchase Lindens at some point in their lives?

Hmmm?

I think it's *supposed* to respect the general maturity preference setting. I know currently there are horrid problems with the infohub distribution algorithm, so if it's just dumping people at any infohub for which they're qualified regardless of preference, that wouldn't be too surprising.

Even if it's not, however, there's no law that a child avatar can't have Adult preferences set on their account. For one thing, there's no requirement that an account can only ever be a child avatar, and there's no automated mechanism to switch maturity preferences by wearing an Outfit folder.

Also, one can't choose a higher maturity level for Search than is set in the general account preference. And there's no rule forbidding the adult operators of a child avatar from using Adult-enabled Search in the privacy of their own browser. Were there ever to be such a rule, it would be double-plus ungood.

It's a reasonable question, so I probably should answer it.

There are three reasons I am AGE verified (not "adult verified" in SL. The first is because I once had a premium account, which requires payment, which in turn requires payment INFORMATION, which verifies you prima facie as an adult. The second reason is that the fact that I have all this information proving I'm an adult would ostensibly serve to shield me from the odd capricious "underage" AR. And the third reason is that there's many-a and many-a place that require age verification not because there's adult activity going on there, but simply because they want to keep out the RL underaged, which has nothing to do with having a child avatar or not. They likely want to keep out the underaged for the same reason they want to keep out griefers and copybots - they're rulebreakers and not worth the trouble, for the most part.

I was age verified for at least a year before ever the first rumors of Zindra began to filter out into the public, by the way, so I'll thank you to leave out the implication that the creation of the latter was the cause of the former, in my case - and the case of any child av who was a resident of SL before the creation of Zindra, to include all the ones that tend to post here in the forum. There were no "Adult" rated regions when I age-verified, and it is not my fault that LL decided to use age-verification as the doorkeeper for the new Adult regions.

I hope these answer your questions.

I'm gonna get a big chunk of land in Zindra and open a freaking Nursery school just for the hell of it..Maybe a whole chain of them scattered all through the freaking place..then i'm gonna turn on combat and shoot anyone over 3 feet tall that steps on mAah land lol

Just cause hehehehehe


WE SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTION LATER

Down with the 'grups! (moment of Original Trek geekery there)

lol it's ok ..you can do that here hehehehe

No.

I am payment info on file, so that I could buy land etc., I never went through the Aristotle process, and have the older viewer. So I do not even have 'adult' as an option and I can go to Zindra just fine.

P.S. Ceka, you crack me up.

But since LL used age-verification as the doorkeeper for the new adult regions - you make a new alt and do not age verify it and use the new alt as the child avatar. Problem solved. If you want to pretend to be a child then be restricted as children are.

But I know that simple solution is not acceptable and you will not make allowances for your avatar choice. You will quote ToS and CS and give me the new definition of ageplay (which is only a BDSM Term not meant for virtual pedophilia and child pornography. LL did not want to use the pedophilia in their CS) and you will continue to say 'ooops' when you end up in adult areas in a child AV. Even though you can easily prevent that from happening.

I'm not age verified. I'm account verified. As for age, I'm "old enough". LL has all the data they need to comply with the TOS/CS as it stands. Thankyouverymuchbaibai. (^_^)y

Age verification is not the doorkeeper to Adult content, account verification is. You have to know that.

Why should anyone have to make a new alt (and lose their no transfer inventory) when they're operating within the TOS? So that some overzealous resident doesn't AR them for actions that do not violate the TOS?

You know, ADULT avatars are the ones who should be concerned about getting AR'd when they get dumped in an infohub. They're the ones who rez naked and shackled, not child avatars. They're the ones technically violating the TOS.

This should bother you, but not for the reasons it does.

So your logic is someone should abandon who-knows-how-much they have invested in their inventory and a name/identity they want to use? Because they did not anticipate Zindra and what would give them access to it?

[Of course, like LL has said, there is no reason for them *not* to have access to it.]