Tinies, Babies, kids and more.. Please give me a breakdown

Well thought out answer and exactly what happened. The OP's questions was answered very well until the additional remarks were made, well known remarks.

Thank you for the clarification. Though if you take your research a step further and search for silly laws and frivolous lawsuits... you will find plenty more to counter this one.

Thank you for the personal attack, I suppose it was only a matter of time before someone was going to move away from discussion and into argument.

I thought that might be the case, but I don't actually see a link in your post. I don't know if it's my browser, the forum software, or an oversight, not that it hurts to have two posts.

I did some further digging on this one.



Evidently it is an Internet urban legend that even fooled a couple of actual reporters.

I put image tags around it, maybe that has something to do with it.

Yes... plenty of remarks were made... I read some of the remarks made today which did nothing but offer sarcasm or insult. I've been trying to legitimately discuss the issue, and as a result, have been subjected to the sort of behavior which people are objecting to.

Too bad, I was hoping that this could have remained a discussion rather than an argument.

I was very interested in learning about children in SL, adoption agencies, families, and all the rest. I keep coming back to this non-ending debate on the same issue just to see if the original thread ever actually got restarted.

Yes, it is the image tags. I can't see the link if there are image tags. (unless I quote the post)

I would suggest sending a IM to any of us kid avs. Mari or myself, also many others would be happy to help

This also may be of some help....
http://secondlifechildren.blogspot.com/

Thank-you, I'll look over the blog and examine the issue further.

OK Point taken; for 'Google' read 'Internet' or 'Web' or any other term you wish to employ.

I am aware that Google finds documents. I am not discrediting 'anything found by a Google Search'. I am saying that i don't know Snopes from a hole in the ground and why should i believe what i read there over what i read anywhere else? If you say it is a highly respected source i am willing to take your word as one recommendation, since i had no recommendation previously.

I treat all information gleaned from the net in the same way, unless i know of a reason why i should treat any with more importance than another. If it's important enough to me, I will make my 'smidgen of effort' to corroborate it. However, this was a lighthearted post, as perhaps the last sentence might have told you.

have a nice day

imogen --------------->

The reason so manhy people are put out with cynics and use the word as a pejorative is because the damn cynics are so often proved right!

(Passes out pie.)

FREE PIE AT THE FORUM CARTEL HANGOUT! (But you have to look for it.)

I appreciate that... it seemed that was the road we were going down, and I really am not anti-child-av. Simply because I think it's odd, doesn't mean I hate it. I just don't understand it, much like people who think my joy of Second Life is strange or odd. I am sorry if it came across as more intense than that... I was trying to discuss the issue from multiple points to better understand it.

I agree... you should be free from unjust accusations, and unfortunately, some people gave the whole child-av thing a bad rap. While I don't automatically assume the worst, some do as a result of the behavior of a few sicko's.

I can understand the frustration a lot of people in this thread have over the issue... and I really was trying to understand both sides of the coin here. It's been difficult with some of the remarks made by some of the posters here, but I appreciate your input and the clarification that you don't think I am trying to rid the world of child-av's.

Good idea Har.. going to look now, I need a break and a pie fix

imogen

Please don't take it personally. It was a generalization, just as your statement was, using wording parallel to yours for effect.

It's a bit closer to home because people do it here rather than at courthouses, and in particular, you did. That means it's a problem that can and should be addressed here. If you have a better way to convince people that they shouldn't pass along urban legends, or that they should put an extra few minutes into research before posting, please do so. Nevertheless, people who pass along urban legends stand a good chance of being corrected, and being embarrassed when that happens.

As for your comment about the frivilous lawsuits, take it even one more step. The best known example is the McDonald's coffee case. Often omitted from the reporting is the point that McDonald's was serving their coffee at a temperature significantly higher than other drive-thru restaurants. The Stella Awards people, at http://www.stellaawards.com/, seem to be doing a decent job of presenting both sides.

Sure, frivolous lawsuits get filed all the time. The overwhelming majority get tossed out quickly. Some get past the first step, usually because the law - not unreasonably - chooses to err on the side of allowing people to make their case, even if it's a weak one. But at this point, the whole argument becomes a red herring. Just because frivolous lawsuits get filed is not a justification to say that child-avs in an adult situation could result in someone being arrested.

Which is not to say there aren't legitimate arguments, nor that the fears are totally unjustified. But there needs to be a rational limit on the "it might be illegal in Pottsylvania" argument."

http://www.vamedmal.com/library/Debunking_ Urban_Legends_About_the_Civil_Justice_System.pdf

Pleasepleasepleaseplease can I talk about dat? It's be waaay more fun f'r me!

Mari

Yes that was what I was asking in the first place. I still want to babysit, and I belive in santa, and when free, I shall ask Mari more, in world.

But lets talk about adoptions, hey and what about adoptions of tinys?

Is there a SL Humane Society where abandoned tinies, nekos, dragons, etc. can be adopted or are they all put to sleep?

Cool

I suspect there are folks in a couple sims who might be able to help with dat, or at least owuld want some help in some fashions. Camp HardKnock is running right now, else I'd suggest you as a camp counselor (they might still need a hand for all I know) an the person in charge of it could be a big resource for you. Ditto for the folks at Gateway (I mention it below) or at Sunshine Elementary.

'course, the best bet is to be a baby sitter for any of your inworld friends who might have kids.



There are several adoption agencies inworld, some are better than others. My own experience with 'em is limited, cuz I was not adopted through an agency: I was found by my mommy when I visited her land, which was also where my cousin (A RL friend) happened to live at the time. I seem to recall that one of the especially good ones is called Gateway or something like it, an is in Famiglia Hideaway.

I doubt many tinies would allow themseves to be adopted. I do know of one place (in Tu Amor) that is taking the adoption concept a step further, into family pets. From what little I saw of it, it focused on real-looking dog and cat types, not furry, tiny, etc.

Mari

Someone posted in these forums once who RP'ed a bunny rabbit, and lived in a burrow kindly allowed on someone else's parklike sim. Might be more of that kind of thing going on than we suspect. I mean, if I were a sim-owning person with natural settings, I think I would like bunnies and foxes and such inhabiting the place - up to a point.

I'm with you. I love a mix. Do most people just stay as one type of AV? I couldn't do that..I love being a dragon or Tiny (black cat) at different times...sometimes I'm even blonde!

Glad ta see the conversation got back on track. Not much more ta say from me other than "Hi Marianne!".

As a fairly new child Av, I've been debating th' adoption thingie, but so far, I thinks I'll jus be another orphan runnin' around the grid. Plus, I get ta stay up waaay past my bedtime.

The limitations on the avatar mesh wuz one reason I decided to be 11 years old. I tried younger, but it just dint look right.

Annnnywayyyy, if ya want to "babysit" me, better be in good shape. In one evening a couple nights ago, two of my friends and I went horseback ridin', divin', slidin' and swimmin' at AKK, surfin' and mountain bike ridin' at The Weather Channel sims (mature, BTW), an' then over to Livingtree to play in th' mud, slide on the water slide an' kick up the leaf piles (Mizz Robin's gonna be mad, I know).

(Woot! First post)

Hey Brittany! Good t'see ya heres!

An hey, dun tell nobuggy, but Robin *loves* them leaf piles. Me, I love the mud, cuz it's fun.

This week I'm off at the big camp which is a really really big thing. I tink most of the tings you mentioned above is happening there, too. Lotsa other stuff too. But it's all full up on registration right nows, an while you can peek in, the area is all red taped off to prevent griefers an stuff.

Mari

I met a mother the other day who was shopping for her daughter. I was looking for a new dress for a friend's wedding. I'm a faerie, but my age is the equivalent of a 2yo human (I'm 260 years old) except that I can obviously speak better having had so long to learn.

I got along famously with the mother, and she even invited me to be a playmate for her daughter. I'm sooo excited.*claps her hands and giggles.*

And those 'faeries' someone mentioned before.. they're NOT faeries... they're just tall humans with wings slapped on, pretending to be faeries. Me? I'm 3'9 and proud of it!