Tinies, Babies, kids and more.. Please give me a breakdown
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Toy LaFollette
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10-22-2007 10:48
From: Burnman Bedlam I don't think you are confused... I think you are missing the point. I can refuse to accept choices someone has made, and simply tolerate them without diminishing anyone's equality. I don't think a person who use child-av's as "less of a person" for doing so. Equality has nothing to do with what I am saying. I find it interesting that you make remarks which seem written in a manner to make me look worse for having my point of view, and then bring up equality.  If I have done what your saying I do appologize for it. I dont have the patience Mari has, oh how I wish I did, hehe. After so many years I often over react and I will jus shut up and play in the corner wit my coloring book
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
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10-22-2007 10:51
From: Toy LaFollette Your confused by my posts, I do not post seeking acceptance, I post seeking equality. Some give it, others dont. It has nothing to do with acceptance. It is apparent to me that some people cannot 'grant' others equality. I know what side Im on. I know of Gor, I have friends there, do I accept Gor? No. Do I treat Goreans as equals? Yes. Am I a furry? No. Do I treat all my furry friends as equals? Yes. Do I accept non-equality by others? No. I do however treat them as equals. Im not confused you see The thing is, equal treatment means _equal_ treatment. If somebody is throwing child avatars off parcels just because they are child avatar, then that's clearly unequal treatment. But on the other hand, if a child is running up to people and saying "are you my mummy?" then that's actually asking for _preferential_ treatment. They're asking others to "buy in" to their role-play. It's just the same as the examples I posted above - they can _ask_ for that if they like, and some people might think it's fun and join in, but there's no obligation, and they certainly have no right to complain if others won't indulge them. _Equal_ treatment means that you can dress up, then meet up with others and talk about SL friends, SL drama, and adult RL - just like everyone else does. |
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Burnman Bedlam
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10-22-2007 10:55
From: Yumi Murakami If somebody is throwing child avatars off parcels just because they are child avatar, then that's clearly unequal treatment. I disagree... if someone were to put up a sign stating "Adults Only" and boot chil-av's from their property... wouldn't they be roleplaying along? 
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Alyx Sands
Mental Mentor Linguist
Join date: 17 Feb 2007
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10-22-2007 11:02
From: Desmond Shang I've been... let's see.
1) Desmond, Victorian land baron and purveyor of antiques.
2) Wabbit Desmond. Brown. Tiny. Fluffy. Still wearing my glasses.
I have a tendency to be very rabbitlike when this way, and may watch you from the cover of a patch of flowers, or from under a low bridge. Safer that way.
3) Young Desmond. I like to go skating like this sometimes.
Harry Potterish to the extreme, I fear.
4) Neko Desmond. I break out the Wabbit or the Cat Ears for Serious SL Bizness.
Lends perspective like few things ever do!
5) Cyberpunk Des. Been ages but you still might catch me in a VNV Nation tee from time to time.
6) Prim babies? Partnering in SL? Ah... no.
Sort them all out?
Can't.
They are all me. VNVNation? Wheeee! I have some t-shirts, too! LOVE them, and have seen them live several times! But you're quite right there, Desmond. I have a tiny, too-black kitty with an ATTITUDE the size of my house (prefers to run around with a mohawk and...Victorian clothing), a furry (cat again), a real cat avatar, and my "normal" avi changes clothes and hairstyle every day but is generally either Dark Geek or Victorian Goth something, often with neko parts. I would miss all of them, because yes, they're all me- and the cat is the only one not wearing glasses... @Mari: I went to see the show on the last day and just had to get the book. It was very moving-that pic of you with the sad look.....it ALSO finally made me go to Robin's store, and now I have a kid avi, too- she's just like me age 11, red hair, glasses, and always plotting mischief! (I put some pics on my Flickr account, too)
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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10-22-2007 11:17
From: Alyx Sands @Mari: I went to see the show on the last day and just had to get the book. It was very moving-that pic of you with the sad look.....it ALSO finally made me go to Robin's store, and now I have a kid avi, too- she's just like me age 11, red hair, glasses, and always plotting mischief! (I put some pics on my Flickr account, too) I'm glad ya enjoyed the show, an got the book. Dat photo is right now a finalist int he Uncanny Valley Expo, which I'm really glad about http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2007/10/the-uncanny-val.htmlAn cool on the new avvie! I'm sooo gonna go an look at yer Flickr! Mari
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 11:33
From: Marianne McCann Wooooowwww... yer old! Over, an over, an over again! Mari You are 8 now, right? Well everyone is old to you right now. You will learn as you grow that they still will seem old to you. People that are 35 are incredibly ancient to me, I mean they could technically be elected as USA President (as in they are now old enough)!
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Ann Launay
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10-22-2007 11:36
From: Lexxi Gynoid People that are 35 are incredibly ancient to me, I mean they could technically be elected as USA President (as in they are now old enough)! I'd spank you if I didn't think you'd like it.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 11:38
From: Ann Launay I'd spank you if I didn't think you'd like it. I left out the part where I will be that age I will not repeat in a very short period of time. Considering the thread, I'll refrain from begging.
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Burnman Bedlam
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10-22-2007 11:40
From: Lexxi Gynoid Considering the thread, I'll refrain from begging. Yeah... there certainly aren't any myths being dispelled here.
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Not happy about Linden Labs purchase of XStreet (formerly SLX) and OnRez. Will this mean LL will ban resident run online shoping outlets in favor of their own?
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Ann Launay
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10-22-2007 11:42
From: Burnman Bedlam Yeah... there certainly aren't any myths being dispelled here. *blinks as a wild generalization flies by*
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~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.
Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Burnman Bedlam
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10-22-2007 11:43
From: Ann Launay *blinks as a wild generalization flies by* /smiles
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Not happy about Linden Labs purchase of XStreet (formerly SLX) and OnRez. Will this mean LL will ban resident run online shoping outlets in favor of their own?
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Alyx Sands
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10-22-2007 11:44
From: Lexxi Gynoid You are 8 now, right? Well everyone is old to you right now. You will learn as you grow that they still will seem old to you. People that are 35 are incredibly ancient to me, I mean they could technically be elected as USA President (as in they are now old enough)! OI! I AM 35! And no, I don't want THAT job....  @Mari: COOL!!! I'll vote for it!
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Jarred Tammas
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10-22-2007 11:53
From: Jig Chippewa I avoid children in Real Life - I avoid children in Second Life.
Whatever turns your crank I guess is up to you BUT I dont like iit when people say "Pway wid me" or "Are U my Mommy?" - In real such a child would be regarded as at least requiring being given street smarts by parents. What is a bad is when you see them in an adult venue like a night club on a "mature" sim. Totally out of place. I was at one that is a ocean club and saw a couple of child avatars there.
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Burnman Bedlam
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10-22-2007 11:56
From: Jarred Tammas What is a bad is when you see them in an adult venue like a night club on a "mature" sim. Totally out of place. I was at one that is a ocean club and saw a couple of child avatars there. Yeah... child-av's in a mature location certainly are certainly out of place.
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Not happy about Linden Labs purchase of XStreet (formerly SLX) and OnRez. Will this mean LL will ban resident run online shoping outlets in favor of their own?
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 11:57
From: Burnman Bedlam Yeah... there certainly aren't any myths being dispelled here. Which myth? If it has anything to do with kid avatars, I've never played a child.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-22-2007 11:58
From: Alyx Sands OI! I AM 35! And no, I don't want THAT job.... @Mari: COOL!!! I'll vote for it! You could be the best ever, you could be the worst ever. Everyone will probably hate you no matter what you do
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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10-22-2007 12:01
From: Lexxi Gynoid You are 8 now, right? Well everyone is old to you right now. You will learn as you grow that they still will seem old to you. People that are 35 are incredibly ancient to me, I mean they could technically be elected as USA President (as in they are now old enough)! Eight? Dat's like as old as my brother! I'm only five. Peoples who is 35 must be as old as Santa Claus! From: Jarred Tammas What is a bad is when you see them in an adult venue like a night club on a "mature" sim. Totally out of place. I was at one that is a ocean club and saw a couple of child avatars there. When I was really young, my daddy - my first daddy - used to be a DJ at clubs. So I was sometimes there too. It was kinda like "take yer kid to work day," really. From: Alyx Sands @Mari: COOL!!! I'll vote for it! Well, dat's one! Mari
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Burnman Bedlam
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10-22-2007 12:05
From: Marianne McCann Eight? Dat's like as old as my brother! I'm only five. Peoples who is 35 must be as old as Santa Claus! There is no Santa Claus.
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Burnman Bedlam
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Not happy about Linden Labs purchase of XStreet (formerly SLX) and OnRez. Will this mean LL will ban resident run online shoping outlets in favor of their own?
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
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10-22-2007 12:08
From: Burnman Bedlam There is no Santa Claus. Now yer jes tellin' stories. I know there is cuz I met him last year in Winterland, an he maded sure dat I got what I wanted (a new daddy dat'd make my mommy happy, an a pair of light up sneakers), an dat my sissy got what she wanted (a mommy. Well, my mommy). So I knew there's a Santa Claus. He's super an magic an everyting. All ya gots to do is believe. Mari (No, not Virginia)
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Jezabell Barbosa
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10-22-2007 20:56
From: Marianne McCann Now yer jes tellin' stories. I know there is cuz I met him last year in Winterland, an he maded sure dat I got what I wanted (a new daddy dat'd make my mommy happy, an a pair of light up sneakers), an dat my sissy got what she wanted (a mommy. Well, my mommy). So I knew there's a Santa Claus. He's super an magic an everyting. All ya gots to do is believe. Mari (No, not Virginia) I do belive I still hear the bells! I wonder what santa is bring me for Xmas? I got a very long list!
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Ann Launay
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10-22-2007 21:31
From: Marianne McCann Peoples who is 35 must be as old as Santa Claus!
As old as my tongue, and a little older than my teeth?
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~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.
Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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Colette Meiji
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10-22-2007 21:45
Child Avatars aren't children.
Role-play with them as if they were children if you so choose. I think thats what they would like. And its harmless.
But stop treating them like children. (in the "OOC" sense)
And certainly don't treat them like you think they are less worthy to be in SL than you are.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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10-22-2007 21:55
I wish that you all understood.
We are all sick peoples.
There is NOT A SINGLE HUMAN BEING on earth that can be considered as normal.
You all have your own tastes and you can be sure that for each of you there is at least 1000 persons in the world that despise what you do or who you are.
Maybe i wasn't clear, We all are all sickos because we are all humans, and because of this we are all dysfunctional animals.
And when i say this I put everybody in the same bucket, it's about time that we all stick together instead of pointing who we think is sick while denying our own defects.
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Daisy Rimbaud
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10-23-2007 01:14
From: Burnman Bedlam I disagree... if someone were to put up a sign stating "Adults Only" and boot chil-av's from their property... wouldn't they be roleplaying along? Actually, yes. I would do just that, for just that reason. Roleplaying cuts both ways! Children were never permitted anywhere near Tesscatraz, for instance - and vampires, robots etc were also excluded. For the same reasons as non-humans are not welcome in Gorean sims. |
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Imogen Saltair
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10-23-2007 01:19
From: Burnman Bedlam There is no Santa Claus. I thought you were against child-abuse Burnman? Thats one of the worst examples i have EVER seen!! For Shame! imogen |