Tinies, Babies, kids and more.. Please give me a breakdown

Nah, it happens when Strife finally stops laughing.. er.. I mean, Strife's gotta read the thread before it can be locked.. and it's an awfully long thread. Took me the better part of yesterday to get caught up and now, I'm the better part of today behind!

We *are* who we want to be in SL. At least.. can be if you choose to be, as most people seem to, and you refuse to (As far as I can tell)
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av·a·tar /ˈævəˌtɑr, ˌævəˈtɑr/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[av-uh-tahr, av-uh-tahr] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. Hindu Mythology. the descent of a deity to the earth in an incarnate form or some manifest shape; the incarnation of a god.
2. an embodiment or personification, as of a principle, attitude, or view of life.
3. Computers. a graphical image that represents a person, as on the Internet.
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Hey, you're right! However, Gaia uses the term avatars as well. Since when are people supposed to look like their real self there? You're taking it far too literally, online avatar could be considered pseudo-slang (If you will) to mean the character you create to represent you in a manner of your choosing.

ANd I never said anything about totally refusing it, that was Mari. And yeah its an option. However, in both worlds, we have to deal with people talking different. Go to a chinese restaraunt, with people who haven't been in the country (USA in this example anyway) for long, and you'll have to deal with it. If you can't deal with parsing a few replaced letters, then you sir, are mentally handicapped.

And actually, RP is the choice of the individual in this world. SL is created to be a chat program, and a place for people to create things essentially. SO they create a personification of who they want to be (And so become, at least in part, therefore avatar is still literally acceptable) and they RP to flesh that out.

You can choose not to RP, but you said that its forcing you to do it (Or something) if someone else does. If you say people should only do it with consent from all parties, you're forcing them to do more. Which is more work:

1. Asking someone if they want to RP, possibly discussing the style and era/genre

or

2. Parsing a few replaced letters, different words.

I'd go with option 2 in a heartbeat.

Well, that and I am kinda asking for help here.

And.. I'm going to use myself as a reference for this post. I'm transgendered in RL and cannot socially pass as female. What your saying is my av should look how I do, even though in both worlds, I don't want to be? You're saying that simply because my body is male in RL, it should be in SL as well? This world has given me a chance to be who I want to be (And hope to be someday), without people hating me for it.

If my Av was a literal representation of my RL self, I could never be me as I am. In SL, my avatar is someone I made, and I am more myself there than in RL, because I can be what I cant immediately be in RL.

I know this is a very personal example btw, but I felt the point had to be made, and that was the best example I could think of.

Um... I jes do?

(I really *really* dun understand the question, or even where your question is, here.)



I'd better keep another light bulb handy, jes in case!

Mari

Ok, there are a whole bunch of misunderstandings building up here:

- I'm not saying that your avatar has to look the same as the real you at all. If you're male in real life and want to be represented by a woman that's fine, ditto vice versa. But it's still meant to be _representing_ the real you. The idea that it should be a distinct character is not the social baseline of SL. This does not mean it can't be respected that way in social groups that choose to, but it is not part of the world-wide social contract. If it was, there would be all kinds of weird issues, just as there are on freeform roleplaying games; for example, a person could wear a devil avatar, grief a sim, and when ARed, say "I, the human player, did nothing wrong; my character, being a devil, is evil and I portrayed them accurately." On SL, we have to retain the right to pierce the veil when necessary, because of the number of people with OOC significant things such as businesses in-world.

- I only used Mari's posting style _on the forums_ as an example. I did _not_ mean to imply that speaking in unusual ways was the activity I was talking about _in-world_.

Dpesn't look like you're going to get much.

Can someone please explain the reason for _using_ the_ underscore?

its the generic italics online when you cant use proper italics.

It actually simulates underlining, which was the substitue for italics before italics were readily available on computers (and, of course, if you used a typewriter)

@Yumi: About the avatar thing-originally, a god had several avatars-male, female, different looks...depending on what the job the avatar was used for was.

Thanks to both of you.

Your World, Your Imagination.

Further...

"Explore a 3D online world lived in and built by its participants where you can be or do almost anything. You can fly. You can discover. You can create a masterpiece - or an empire. If you can imagine it, you can do it here" - SL web site main page, 02/2003

"Change your appearance to look like anything – an imaginary superhero, a mythical monster, or your own mirror image." - SL web site about page, 04/2004

Maybe it has strayed from this, I dunno, but it seems purty clear to me dat "distinct character" is pretty much *the* baseline. Some people's idea of character is "look just like me" or at least "look like a 'normal' human."

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some Easy Bake apple pies to pass out.

Mari

I thought they discontinued them cause they burned people.. either way I still think they make yummylicious fudz, after 7 years of not even really seeing one lol

Recalled, but not discontinued:
http://www.hasbro.com/easybake/

Mari

okies awesome ^^

i'm so buying one....

Does it not occur to you that you're trying to have it both ways - have your cake and eat it, too - lick your lollypop and ... well, crunch it in your teeth?

If a child av is RPing a child it should be treated as a child. It should *want* to be treated as a child. It should obey rules governing children's activities.

I am not paranoid if I own a tavern and keep out children. I am obeying the law which applies to children not being allowed in a tavern. If this is in SL, I am RPing a tavern-owner barring child AVs from entering my tavern because it is essential to MY role in RPing a tavern owner!.

Not paranoid. Cooperative. AND treating the child Av as equal.

I think the Child Av should be treated like any other resident of Second Life at all times.

Since they are.

Speaking to them as though they were a child is Role Play.

Just like speaking to a Jedi Master as if he were a Jedi Master is Role Play.

Or a Knight in shining armor, an elf, a dragon, a furry.

Time for this thread to die.