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Tinies, Babies, kids and more.. Please give me a breakdown

Marianne McCann
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10-24-2007 18:33
From: Jezabell Barbosa
I just wanted to babysit, I just wanted to babysit!


I jes sended you an offline inworld with a couple names dat might be able t'help maybe.

Mari
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10-24-2007 18:46
From: Marianne McCann
I tink what my daddy is sayin is dat me an my brother Pygar an my sissy Robin would be"a handful."

/me gives her daddy a big "forcing my roleplay an missing you cuz of camp" hug


Mari


Understatement. :)

/me gives his daughter a non-broadly offensive hug
Katryna Jie
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10-24-2007 18:48
Sorry to inform you, dear Yumi - but I almost always write like this, be it in the forums, my blog or even in MSN with my friends. *grins* It's the way I am. ((tries her best to be human)) The faerie me is as true to my RL me as I can get. In RL I like to create (build) and have fun. I like to play pranks also, which is exactly what faeries do. Yes, I know faeries are only inches tall - but have you tried making your AV that small without using a tiny? It's impossible. I have done my best to be as small as I can while still being nicely proportioned.

I do NOT baby talk either ((though I originally was going to, but the SIM owner asked me not to)) and am quite capable of having adult conversation - which we seem to be doing now. But I do not stand, sit OR act like an adult. I giggle; I clap my hands and jump up and down. Yes, even in RL.

I have not asked you to treat me in a particular fashion, and do not expect you to. Why the hating? If I was going around and griefing, then sure. If I was coming into whatever sim you're in and RPing stabbing you in the leg with a dagger, sure - that's just plain nasty.

I am NOT RPing... I am just expressing my emotions and feelings. My behaviour. Much in the same way that people use smileys and so on... Oh, they must be RPing a smile - they're clearly not really smiling in RL. *rolls eyes* You don't work for the FBI, do you? Lighten up and have some fun.

Being a child, a faerie, an orc or whatever - is more about behaviour than talk. Look at RL. Children learn to speak at different rates. I've seen 4 y.o.'s that can speak much better than some 8 y.o.'s that I have spoken to. Not just in English, but in every language. It is behaviour that gives away age. Children just do not do the same things as adults. A 5yo doesn't go around trying to con people out of millions of dollars. Nor does a 'mature adult' go around putting buckets of flour on top of doors to drop on unsuspecting victims.

As for those tall faeries.. I still stand by my statement. When they start acting like faeries, THEN tell me they're faeries. Until then, in my eyes, they are just humans with wings slapped on. Do you call midgets children just because they're small? NO - they clearly act like adults.

In fact, to be honest... it's just like those people in the RP sims.. Yup! The evil side attacked by susprise. Everybody complained about how 'unfair' it was, how they 'weren't ready'. Well if you can't hack the evil side being evil - then don't RP in a place with evil races - go off to the carebear sim or something (is there one?). Noone is forcing you to be here.

*sits and thinks for a moment* The conformity forced on us by RL - get a job, wear a tie, buy a house, settle down etc. etc. 'this is cool' 'that's not cool'... is terrible. Why must we conform our actions just to make you happy. Ignore me if you must, but as Popeye said once.. "I yam what I yam" and that's all that I am *struggles to remember the whole quote correctly.

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1. Have fun - no matter what - if it's not fun, it's not worth it.
2. Try anything twice - not once, because the first time might have just been bad luck.
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10-24-2007 19:18
Mari is very diplomatic and even temptured which i admire and obviously those are not my best skills *blushes* but speaking up when someone is nitpicking littles or submissives isnt about that one particular little. when one is attacked then all littles/subs are imo. so i appreciate that Mari wasnt offended but im not any less offended by the attitude on this thread. when will it stop? isnt the topic getting old? how many times do you hafta explain things over and over before people get it. im losing my patience with these threads already and theyve existed much longer then ive been posting in forums. enough is enough already.
Har Fairweather
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10-24-2007 19:54
From: errUh Oh
Mari is very diplomatic and even temptured which i admire and obviously those are not my best skills *blushes* but speaking up when someone is nitpicking littles or submissives isnt about that one particular little. when one is attacked then all littles/subs are imo. so i appreciate that Mari wasnt offended but im not any less offended by the attitude on this thread. when will it stop? isnt the topic getting old? how many times do you hafta explain things over and over before people get it. im losing my patience with these threads already and theyve existed much longer then ive been posting in forums. enough is enough already.


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10-25-2007 00:09
From: Alyx Sands
No, you're not. You're....what Brenda said! ;)


A goofy, loveable pervert? I'm not a pervert. I'm a degenerate. A degenerate is like a pervert except less perverted, and a degenerate also drinks, gambles and tries to convert others to his drunken gambling semi-perversions. Let's keep in mind that I can be a goofy loveable degenerate and still be pretty stupid and give absolutely rotten advice.

Mari - please don't. You rate a DNQ. Does Not Qualify. I've rated several grown women, a guy, and a cat, but I'm certain rating a kid would A, make Brenda right about the perverted part and B get me banned, which would screw up my fun.
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Sally Silvera
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10-25-2007 03:07
Ya know, I was kind of hoping this thread would have died already and am almost ashamed for posting in it again. But several things have been said here that made me wonder.....

Soooo as it stands, I´ll step out of my usual character and stop myself from giggling, jumping up and down with excitement and waving, because that apparently is not allowed :p

Not even going to try and quote directly, because I don´t want to write a novel.
But here´s a few things that jumped at me and got me out of usual mode:
Criticising others for the way they speak? Well you might as well mute half the universe, starting with those who may like using colourful speech to illustrate a point or Oh Noes have an accent, use words from different languages etc. Doesn´t matter whether you call it a dialect or not, that´s just semantics.
Criticising people for posting in the forums as their character? I wasn´t aware anyone could post in any other way?
Saying the inner child in us should be more guarded by our adult selves? But I like rollercoasters, blowing bubbles and am so loving the bubblegum I bought recently! And as I´ve noted before, the kids I´ve met were far better behaved than many of the adults I´ve come across.
Someone else´s roleplaying being forced on you? Nothing can be forced on you in this universe.

As someone very nicely said up above somewhere ... live and let live.

If intolerance is the way forward, I´m outta here. And no, you cannot have my stuff.

/me puts little-bit-angry-self away again and goes back to giggling

/me hopes Jez finds someone to babysit, and hopes the next attempt to Godwin this thing will be more effective.
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10-25-2007 03:22
From: Katryna Jie
Being a child, a faerie, an orc or whatever - is more about behaviour than talk. Look at RL. Children learn to speak at different rates. I've seen 4 y.o.'s that can speak much better than some 8 y.o.'s that I have spoken to. Not just in English, but in every language. It is behaviour that gives away age. Children just do not do the same things as adults. A 5yo doesn't go around trying to con people out of millions of dollars. Nor does a 'mature adult' go around putting buckets of flour on top of doors to drop on unsuspecting victims.

As for those tall faeries.. I still stand by my statement. When they start acting like faeries, THEN tell me they're faeries. Until then, in my eyes, they are just humans with wings slapped on. Do you call midgets children just because they're small? NO - they clearly act like adults.


Well, I think I've annoyed enough people already on this thread, but I should respond to this because I have relevant personal experience..

.. namely that I've known a significant number of people (and this is without me really trying very hard to find them) who really wanted to act like faeries but didn't because it would just have annoyed people who were happily club dancing and talking about what was on TV last night.

Don't believe that? One of the best faerie roleplayers I met initially hated BDSM but wound up becoming a BDSM domme (!) because it was the only way she could get people to participate in scenarios she had control over.. and from talking to others, it seems that *as a very low estimate* 20% of SL's BDSM community is similarly frustrated roleplayers who've been forced into it in the hope of finding co-operation. She, and many others in that category, then simply quit. Many others in the same category wind up becoming pure content creators. (And please don't assume they're bad roleplayers, either.. you haven't met them.)

This is what I'm saying.. people here are throwing out the phrase "nobody is stopping you" without actually checking, but in fact you can stop people just by ignoring them or by carrying on regardless because most people will feel uncomfortable if they are violating a group norm and correct themselves. This is not to say that those people who don't do that are wrong, they might even be "brave" in the words of some others here, but I would say that the people who _do_ do it are just following a natural human social drive and don't deserve to be penalised for it!

If you have a child av, and you insist on being treated like a child (and yes, this includes people 'tolerating' your childish speech, remember you are not really a child so you are actually asking them to either a) tolerate that behavior from an adult or b) embrace your role), then please pay back the favour and treat the faeries like faeries and the soldiers like soldiers, 'k? :)
Jezabell Barbosa
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10-25-2007 03:53
From: Sally Silvera

/me hopes Jez finds someone to babysit, and hopes the next attempt to Godwin this thing will be more effective.



Thanks! In RL (hard to believe, I know) I dont have any children but am a mentor to one, and she is the best kid ever!

I just wanna play Hop Scotch and Monopoly!! Ok ok, maybe some barbies and tonka trucks!
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Colette Meiji
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10-25-2007 05:11
From: Yumi Murakami

Don't believe that? One of the best faerie roleplayers I met initially hated BDSM but wound up becoming a BDSM domme (!) because it was the only way she could get people to participate in scenarios she had control over.. and from talking to others, it seems that *as a very low estimate* 20% of SL's BDSM community is similarly frustrated roleplayers who've been forced into it in the hope of finding co-operation. She, and many others in that category, then simply quit. Many others in the same category wind up becoming pure content creators. (And please don't assume they're bad roleplayers, either.. you haven't met them.)


When I read this, I think that -

This is either an example of someone with a very weak sense of self -

Or someone rationalizing their RP kink to someone they don't think approves of it.
Ann Launay
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10-25-2007 06:41
From: Katryna Jie

As for those tall faeries.. I still stand by my statement. When they start acting like faeries, THEN tell me they're faeries. Until then, in my eyes, they are just humans with wings slapped on.


I still don't see what height has to do with it and - judging by the number of human-sized or capable of transforming to human-sized faeries I see cropping up in stories by fairly well known writers of the genre - neither do a lot of other people. What you actually seem to be saying is that, when they start behaving by YOUR definition of faeries, then you'll start treating them like faeries. Now, granted, there are plenty of 'humans' wandering around SL who just like the look of wings, but if someone is portraying faery by their personal definition and it happens not to mesh with yours...what right do you have to say they're wrong?

I've seen the same sort of thing with the semi-feline, how there's only 'one true way' to be Neko, and it just makes me roll my eyes. That's basically like saying the only way to find your own independence (or, in your case, personal whimsy) is to follow another's lead. Cats have a myriad of personalities, from penthouse diva to alley scrapper, so why shouldn't Nekos?

Why shouldn't everyone, SL faeries included?
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10-25-2007 06:46
From: Ann Launay
Of course, we of the feline persuasion do tend to get watched a bit more closely...cats and sand, don't you know.

Heh . . if I hear that joke one more time when I go out onto a beach . . ack
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10-25-2007 06:47
From: Brenda Connolly
WOW! It would have to be a pretty large penis to do that I'd imagine......

I've seen his, it is massive, larger than a small pony. It would get the job done. The blocking the sun job, I mean.
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Marianne McCann
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10-25-2007 07:03
From: Trout Recreant
Mari - please don't. You rate a DNQ. Does Not Qualify. I've rated several grown women, a guy, and a cat, but I'm certain rating a kid would A, make Brenda right about the perverted part and B get me banned, which would screw up my fun.


Dat's why I said I'd hadta pass. 'sides, I'd be kinda unratable on dat scale, I tink! Sorta like measuring the blood content of turnips!

From: Yumi Murakami
If you have a child av, and you insist on being treated like a child (and yes, this includes people 'tolerating' your childish speech, remember you are not really a child so you are actually asking them to either a) tolerate that behavior from an adult or b) embrace your role), then please pay back the favour and treat the faeries like faeries and the soldiers like soldiers, 'k? :)


...or c) walk away, or d) tell em to not do dat, or e) mute 'em, or... or...

You dun hafta do nuttin you dun wanna.

From: Jezabell Barbosa
Thanks! In RL (hard to believe, I know) I dont have any children but am a mentor to one, and she is the best kid ever!

I just wanna play Hop Scotch and Monopoly!! Ok ok, maybe some barbies and tonka trucks!


You should see the Candyland an Chutes an Ladders boards at Inner Child. *Those* is serious fun.

(Hope those people who's names I gave ya inworld are able to lend you a hand!)

From: Sally Silvera
Saying the inner child in us should be more guarded by our adult selves? But I like rollercoasters, blowing bubbles and am so loving the bubblegum I bought recently! And as I´ve noted before, the kids I´ve met were far better behaved than many of the adults I´ve come across..


Ya, the ting about the "more guarded" ting is, well, part of expressing ones inner kid is also kinda dropping a lot of the 'dult guarding an jes gettin out an havin' fun. Kinda works at cross purposes if yer gonna jes be like an adult inna kid shape.

From: someone
the next attempt to Godwin this thing will be more effective.


You know who else expected kids to behave more like adults? ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/ytgmw5

(How's dat, Misses Silvera?)

Mari
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Sally Silvera
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10-25-2007 07:10
From: Marianne McCann

Ya, the ting about the "more guarded" ting is, well, part of expressing ones inner kid is also kinda dropping a lot of the 'dult guarding an jes gettin out an havin' fun. Kinda works at cross purposes if yer gonna jes be like an adult inna kid shape.


I´ll be the kid in the adult shape then :D

From: Marianne McCann

You know who else expected kids to behave more like adults? ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/ytgmw5
(How's dat, Misses Silvera?) Mari



/me giggles and claps wildly

please call me Sally, or I´ll feel really really old :p
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10-25-2007 07:21
From: Marianne McCann

...or c) walk away, or d) tell em to not do dat, or e) mute 'em, or... or...

You dun hafta do nuttin you dun wanna.


Yes, but doing those things doesn't help them get _their_ role embraced too. It just leaves them lonely.
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10-25-2007 07:38
Just to stir the pot a little more - let's not take ourselves too seriously. Even the child-avatars around here are starting to sound like enraged Brigadier-Generals living in Tunbridge Wells and sending letters to the editor of The Times.
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10-25-2007 07:40
From: Jig Chippewa
Just to stir the pot a little more - let's not take ourselves too seriously. Even the child-avatars around here are starting to sound like enraged Brigadier-Generals living in Tunbridge Wells and sending letters to the editor of The Times.


lol
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Marianne McCann
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10-25-2007 07:53
From: Yumi Murakami
Yes, but doing those things doesn't help them get _their_ role embraced too. It just leaves them lonely.


There's how many people logged in right now?

Mari
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Marianne McCann
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10-25-2007 07:56
From: Jig Chippewa
Just to stir the pot a little more - let's not take ourselves too seriously. Even the child-avatars around here are starting to sound like enraged Brigadier-Generals living in Tunbridge Wells and sending letters to the editor of The Times.


---

Dear sir,

I found your article , "The resurgance of bowler hat" in last Monday's edition to be entirely inexcusable. Here, in Kent, the bowler has never fell out of fashion. It is the duty of any upstanding English gentle to remain proper, and We have never done any different. How dare you insist otherwise.

Sincerely,
Brigadier-General Baby Hitler, deceased.

---

Mari
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10-25-2007 07:58
From: Marianne McCann
There's how many people logged in right now?

Mari

42. Not counting alts.
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Marianne McCann
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10-25-2007 08:00
From: Brenda Connolly
42. Not counting alts.


42? What an answer. ;-)
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Jig Chippewa
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10-25-2007 08:11
From: Marianne McCann
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Dear sir,

I found your article , "The resurgance of bowler hat" in last Monday's edition to be entirely inexcusable. Here, in Kent, the bowler has never fell out of fashion. It is the duty of any upstanding English gentle to remain proper, and We have never done any different. How dare you insist otherwise.

Sincerely,
Brigadier-General Baby Hitler, deceased.

---

Mari


Sir,
I am dismayed at the resurgence of sheer insolence on the part of the working classes who assume social position by insisting on bowlers for all occasions. I wear a flat cap on the proper occasion: the races at Goodwood, is one such. If it is good enough for me (on occasion, mark you!) it should be more than adequate for THEM!

Sincerely,
Brig. Gen. Chippewa of Cheam
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10-25-2007 08:14
From: Yumi Murakami

Don't believe that? One of the best faerie roleplayers I met initially hated BDSM but wound up becoming a BDSM domme (!) because it was the only way she could get people to participate in scenarios she had control over.. and from talking to others, it seems that *as a very low estimate* 20% of SL's BDSM community is similarly frustrated roleplayers who've been forced into it in the hope of finding co-operation. She, and many others in that category, then simply quit. Many others in the same category wind up becoming pure content creators. (And please don't assume they're bad roleplayers, either.. you haven't met them.)
...


ok - I'm about to agree with something you said, so don't take this as a criticism. I just had to point this out, because if I'm reading this right, it seems to say that she wanted to RP a faerie, but couldn't find anyone to play along (which surprises me, because in SL, my experience is that you can probably find someone to play along with anything if you try hard enough), so she bacame a bdsm domme so she could force her subs to play faerie with her.

Please tell me you have chat logs. Please.

From: Yumi Murakami

...then please pay back the favour and treat the faeries like faeries and the soldiers like soldiers, 'k? :)


YES!! That's the point. If someone wants to be a faerie, respect that. Same with kids, Gorean slaves, soldiers, superheroes, Conquistadors, giant cats, dragons, Bigwig the HAV unit, or whatever role makes them happy. It isn't hurting you any, so leave them be.
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10-25-2007 08:27
From: Jezabell Barbosa
I just wanted to babysit, I just wanted to babysit!



Well, the title of the thread included a request to "give you a breakdown". I think we may have succeeded. :rolleyes:

And I agree with Mari's dad...you wanna babysit Mari and her pals, you bring a small army to help. I was on Livingtree one evening when I found myself surrounded by one of them.
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