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So why are kids on Zindra?

Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-16-2009 16:36
From: Brenda Connolly
Until you get tired of being harassed by vigilantes or knights errant or someone who wants your land, or a trigger happy Linden on the G team.
Don't even need Zindra for that... I know... First hand. (T_T)

Try wrapping your brain around a (Sexual)ageplay banning while on PG land, in a PG event, in a PG avatar. (>_<;)
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Qie Niangao
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06-16-2009 16:38
From: Darien Caldwell
I have to disagree. There is only one specific thing that isn't allowed on Mature land, and that is *advertising* adult activities. You can still pull out the *insert your kinkiest item here*, and go to town with it in mature land, as long as it's in your private home. Mature land still has a lot of value.
Not exactly. Any public adult activities are forbidden on Mature land. Advertising is sufficient to qualify the activity as public, but not a necessary condition. And "advertising" has been defined very broadly to include any Search listing at all if the advertised activity turns out to include adult content (that is, the ad itself need not contain adult-only terms), and other non-Search forms of disseminating information (word of mouth, etc.).

I agree that there are some purely residential, purely private uses of Mature land, and it will still serve as a good enough substitute for PG when PG land isn't readily available. Yet all those things are also true of Adult land, but without the wacky restrictions.

When all is said and done, I would very much rather own only PG and Adult land. Instead I will have a lot of Mature stuff to dump on the market. I really don't think I'll be alone.
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06-16-2009 16:41
From: Argent Stonecutter
So what's the point of keeping on about it, now that it's clear that Zindra isn't "a specific Red Light district where everyone can have their junk out and hump things" any more than Mature is "a specific Red Light district where everyone can have their junk out and hump things"?


That has not been made clear at all.
Qie Niangao
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06-16-2009 16:48
From: Angel Leviathan
From: Argent Stonecutter
So what's the point of keeping on about it, now that it's clear that Zindra isn't "a specific Red Light district where everyone can have their junk out and hump things" any more than Mature is "a specific Red Light district where everyone can have their junk out and hump things"?
That has not been made clear at all.
I think that's not only correct, but an understatement. It has been intentionally *hidden*. LL is just not that stupid to believe that Zindra will long remain all-smut-all-the-time, despite attempts to paint it as only for the most extreme deviants of sex and violence. They know full well that this is creating hundreds more sims of tier revenue, at the cost of further eroding the market value of existing Mainland.
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Milla Janick
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06-16-2009 16:49
From: Weston Graves
I think now I'll have to go there in puppy form. I wonder if I would be accused of not only prepubescent age play but beastiality as well.

I'm pretty sure that's okay. Just don't be a child avatar on an empty beach in an Adult rated region!
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06-16-2009 16:53
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Don't even need Zindra for that... I know... First hand. (T_T)

Try wrapping your brain around a (Sexual)ageplay banning while on PG land, in a PG event, in a PG avatar. (>_<;)


*makes note to hang out with Immy some time. Never a dull moment, I'm sure.
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06-16-2009 16:55
From: Qie Niangao
They know full well that this is creating hundreds more sims of tier revenue, at the cost of further eroding the market value of existing Mainland.

BINGO!
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06-16-2009 16:56
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BINGO!


Sorry. Gambling is still prohibited. But yes, I think Qie is onto something.


*He should know, he's Linden, after all. :p
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06-16-2009 16:59
From: Weston Graves
Gee, Mari. I shouldn't have joked in IM last night about how you guys shouldn't be there. It never occurred to me that some people really would take it seriously.

I think now I'll have to go there in puppy form. I wonder if I would be accused of not only prepubescent age play but beastiality as well.

Heh! You can both go together and then everyone can start bitching about fic & fic: feted inner child and feted inner canine!!!!!!

(No offense meant to either, luv you both!)
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06-16-2009 17:01
From: Brenda Connolly
Sorry. Gambling is still prohibited. But yes, I think Qie is onto something.


*He should know, he's Linden, after all. :p
i meant to shout ZYNGO! my bad. LOL
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-16-2009 17:15
From: Brenda Connolly
*makes note to hang out with Immy some time. Never a dull moment, I'm sure.
You may be amazed how true that often is. =^-^=

Ask just about anyone in NCI. (^_^)y
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Marianne McCann
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06-16-2009 17:19
From: Qie Niangao
One of the most vocal blogging advocates of restricting Adult land by banning child avatars is also one of the largest (perhaps *the* largest?) owner of not-for-sale Mature mainland. Now why might that be? :rolleyes:


Are you implying an agenda? :cool:

From: Weston Graves
Gee, Mari. I shouldn't have joked in IM last night about how you guys shouldn't be there. It never occurred to me that some people really would take it seriously.


Some people like to assume the worst, and will take all sorts of leaps to "prove" same. ;)

From: Jesse Barnett
Heh! You can both go together and then everyone can start bitching about fic & fic: feted inner child and feted inner canine!!!!!!


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06-16-2009 17:32
From: Qie Niangao
When all is said and done, I would very much rather own only PG and Adult land. Instead I will have a lot of Mature stuff to dump on the market. I really don't think I'll be alone.


Mature sims have the advantage of being the only sim type that isn't excluded if people untick that maturity rating in search.

You untick adult, you don't see adult sims, you untick PG, you don't see PG sims, you untick mature, you don't see parcels flagged as "Mature content" but you see all the other ones on mature land.

Hardly a fine selling point but mature sims will still be the majority player in the land market.
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06-16-2009 17:41
From: Qie Niangao
And that's the problem: Mature is the new Nowhere. It's neither fish nor foul.
"fowl".

I know!

It's a ferret!

Well, ferrets are neither fish nor fowl.
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06-16-2009 17:44
From: Marianne McCann

LOL. Seriously thou, sorry you are once again receiving flak for being a nice person.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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06-16-2009 17:50
From: Jesse Barnett
LOL. Seriously thou, sorry you are once again receiving flak for being a nice person.
Darned nice people. Just like smart people. Ruin everything!!! (>_<;)
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06-16-2009 18:12
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...I think this thread is not about what it pretends to be about.



This.

and...

IBTL +1
Pussycat Catnap
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06-16-2009 18:14
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Headline News 1 July 2009: "Virtual World Opens Adults Only Sex Filled Continent".

Headline News 2 July 2009: "Underage Avatars Found in Adult Only Sex Filled Continent".

Headline News 3 July 2009: "Virtual World Bans Underage Avatars from Adult Only Sex Filled Continent".


I'm hoping you turn out to be right.

A -LOT- of problems will be solved if your prediction comes true.
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06-16-2009 18:32
From: Angel Leviathan
That has not been made clear at all.
:eek:

It doesn't MATTER what the Lindens think Zindra is for, there are too damn many people who bought Mature land when that meant "adult" just because they didn't want restrictions, who are right now porning up their land to get into the swap... NOT because they want to run a sex shop but simply because they want to continue to function in peace. These people will NOT allow Zindra to be a purely red light district.
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Marianne McCann
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06-16-2009 19:06
From: Jesse Barnett
LOL. Seriously thou, sorry you are once again receiving flak for being a nice person.


Thankoo. It happens. :-)
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06-16-2009 19:06
Sorry this is totally unrelated to the topic. :)

Ian Nider
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06-16-2009 19:07
From: Pussycat Catnap
I'm hoping you turn out to be right.

A -LOT- of problems will be solved if your prediction comes true.


You may think there are problems now, but if the banning to shut up one particular agenda starts, it will snowball until there is no one left, not even representational Micky Mouse will have a right left, bestiality you know, guilt by association beyond doubt.
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06-16-2009 19:11
From: Bree Giffen
Sorry this is totally unrelated to the topic. :)



One cup. 3 ferrets. :eek:
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06-16-2009 19:18
From: Brenda Connolly
One cup. 3 ferrets. :eek:


Ack! Eyes burned out! :)

Have to rate this thread as Adult/Extreme only :)
Pussycat Catnap
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06-16-2009 19:20
From: Ian Nider
You may think there are problems now, but if the banning to shut up one particular agenda starts, it will snowball until there is no one left, not even representational Micky Mouse will have a right left, bestiality you know, guilt by association beyond doubt.


Contrary to the opinion quoted, human behavior is actually capable of drawing and fixing upon bright lines that do not lie at either complete anarchy or complete tyranny. Not every attempt at regulating conduct is a slippery slope.

I think we can handle saying no to pedos and no to those who would traipse child looking AVs into areas where others are trying to engage in adult sexuality without descending into complete jack-booted thuggery.

So... I still stand by my view - a -lot- of problems would be solved if you could AR any child avatar outside of a PG zone. And doing so would not bring about the end of all creation.
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