So why are kids on Zindra?

Another reason why I luff you, Chris.

It's LL's say. And they have already said a child avatar simply standing next to a sex bed equals Sexual Ageplay.

So why would any child avatar with any sense go to a region specifically desginated for Adult activities which involve sex beds and the like? They put not only their own account in jeapordy, but the account of anyone's sex bed they happen to be standing next to. And that is the problem. It's reckless, even if technically it's being allowed by LL. You could almost call it entrapment.

I love it when people post and you can see they've been fed info. It really makes it clear that you are not debating one person on the facts but with a particular groups personal agenda.

Anyway as I have already stated in this thread, I was hoping this new Adult setup would prevent some of the issues we've had in the past, not continue them.

Which would also get you banned for participating. Bad idea.

I have a feeling that will change. A couple of crusading do gooders, maybe on a PG sim next to a Mature sim is all it will take. Next thing you know, the lifeguard is chasing everyone out of the pool.

I know reading the thread would be a pain, but it would help you. This thread is not about children. For me it is about the depiction of children in sexual situations.

Better to resolve it now, than later after innocent people have been harmed.

i love when people evade the point and twist the truth. it's so transparent.

*logs in to make a short AV just to annoy*

Is this like it was in 2003? We know you're dying to tell us.

freakin dupe post

Child avs are paying members of SL, like any of us and they have a right to Sl like any of us.

If we don't like the concept, we simply make it clear they aren't welcome on our land, IM's or SL experience by mentioning it it in our profiles or land ads.

They have to leave if sexual stuff is going on. So just tell them to leave in open chat.

Having them banned in any form is just opening up a precedent for our particular concepts to be banned and considering the mind set of some of the vigilante threads that have been here in the forums lately, it's not a nice path.

Which is why child AVs on the AC are a bad idea.

And I'm going to say this in general to all concerned here, It's pretty sad to see people jumping all over someone and making false accusations at someone just because you don't agree with her viewpoint.

I haven't seen anyone say anything bad about child avatars, It *is* a very important discussion to have, and it does put your, mine, and everyone 's account at risk as that's how LL's rules are set up. It doesn't matter if you *engage* in ageplay, you only have to *appear* to have done so. And that makes people understandably edgy.

I never made it a secret that if I ever caught child avatars in my BDSM store in the past, They were told to leave, or put on a more appropriate shape. This was *not* because I have anything against child avatars, but For *their* protection and *my* protection.

This concern can't simply be ignored in the name of Political Correctness. If you can get LL to change the rules go for it. Until then, people with sexually themed content have to do what is necessary to prevent such rules from ruining their Second Life.

I think that was in response to this post, rather than your OP.

Hey I want an agenda too! Which group are you in and can I join?

Damn, missed the cut AGAIN!

What are you even talking about? you seem to be trying to imply something but I really don't know what. Why not instead of beating around the bush, you just come out with it?

It should already be resolved by the current TOS. As long as child avatars aren't violating it, there shouldn't be an issue. If they are, AR 'em, eject and ban them from the parcel.

Parcel owners will also set their own policies regarding child avatars as they do now.

The content of a parcel should be the determining factor in whether or not the presence of child avatars is appropriate.

Which is, of course, barred in Second Life.

But this is the "sexual situation" I was in yesterday, that caused all this to do



Careful, one's monitor might melt at the sight of it.

funny you say. that was EXACTLY my point to you. say it.

I think you have valid points and if I this thread had been about a children avatars in a BDSM store my feelings towards it might be very different.

It is not though. It is about a children avatars on a continent that so far contains only Linden content. I personally would not have a second thought of zipping over and taking a look in my child alt. Now when the continent starts to be populated I will be very careful of where, why and if I ever visit Zindra on that account.

In my personal experience, I have found the majoriity adults who play children avatars to be very careful, responsible, and responsive to the concerns over sexually themed content. Most of them realize they take on an extra burden and responsibility when they choose to play these avatars. They are vocal in thier outreach and education new members to the communities concerns.

I have said and will continue to say, It is a small minority of users that are breaking the T.O.S. and giving the larger community an unfair stigma.

Wishing won't make it so. There's absolutely nothing in the policy or the announced procedures that would lead to that result. (And, I might add, there's nothing about banning child avatars that would make that result any more likely.)

Zindra will be indistinguishable from current Mature mainland because that's exactly how it's defined. At first it will be a little racier than that because it will be seeded by those with Adult Content parcels to swap, but within a few weeks it will be just like the sims whence those parcels swapped. And that's fine, really, because people wanted the options currently available on Mature mainland, and on Zindra those same options will remain available.

It's the rest of Mainland we should worry about.

Yes, that. I pay the same bills and I am a verified adult because of it (PIOF/PIU).



This part too. Heck, those who have been around since the formation of the inworld Forum Cartel Hangout will recall that I was very antsy about going there, simply so that those who wanted to be ribald could be. I still don't go there *too* much for the same reason.

At any rate, ya. Don't want me on your parcel? tell me. Judging from what you have there, it's quite likely I would not hang about when I'd see what you had their (or if it was a private residence - I don't go into those 'less invited in).



"I find ___ creepy. Ban then."



This, this this. I'm saying "this" a lot.



Yes, even this!

(and I need BDSM stuff like I need a hole in my avatar mesh!)

Mari
(Oh - and ITBL. This!)

By that logic they shouldn't allow child avatars in mature regions either.