Gorean is it all negative?

Only if you like an audience...

Anybody else see a bit of a contradiction in this one? I will have to talk the people in my family who are on the job about this, I trust them more than I'd ever trust The New York Times, but I think they would say despite what some crackpot judge would say, the idea that they would have no obligation to stop a crime they witnessed is ridiculous. Thanks for some interesting links.

Jesus wept. I'd rather talk about Gor. Or paint drying. Or grass growing.

A signed letter describing the roleplay and kept on both people during the RP can't hurt. At least it might give the police pause before acting.. aggressively.

Really? From Gorean slave girls to US law cases??

Maybe it's the law where you come from (US?), but here, as a citizen, you are duty bound to help those in need of assistance. Since the Police are also citizens, they ARE obligated to help.

ok -

case 2, Barillari, held that a police officers agreement to protect someone does not create a ministerial duty. It does not hold that a police officer, witnessing what looks to be a crime does not have to intervene.

Case 3, Bowers, deals with whether state administrative officials have the responsibility to protect the public from mental patients. The police did not witness the crime. In fact, the defendants were officers and physicians of the mental health authority. Completely different set of facts.

Case 4, DeShaney, social workers failed to remove a child from an abusive parent. No police witnesses to the crime.

Case 5, Ford, works against you - the town told the victim it could not take action unless it witnessed a violation of the protection order in place against her husband. No police officers witnessed the violation or the crime, and thereforem, there was no duty.

Case 6, Warren, proves that DC stinks on ice, but not that the police have no duty to stop a crime they witness. It's a consolidated case, so there are several fact patterns. the one that comes closest is one where the police responded to a burglary call and drove around the house, knocked on the door, but didn't force entry. The burglar was inside raping the resident. It got worse from there. Awful facts. But the cops did not actually witness the crime taking place. They just did a terrible job investigating a call.

Case 7, Riss. Stupid New York cases. They're always a PITA to suss out. At any rate, a jilted boyfriend threatened and ended up attacking a woman. He did not do it in the presence of the police, although she reported the threats to them and they knew she was at risk.

Lastly,

Case 8, Lynch, Good God Almighty! Horrible facts. Children living with mom and boyfriend. Boyfriend killed a bunch of people related to ex husband/father of children. Police bungled the arrest attempt during which boyfriend killed children pretty horribly. Mom and boyfriend als killed. Yikes. At any rate, the police were attempting to make an arrest, regardless of how screwed up it was. They weren't ignoring an apparent crime in progress.

So, I've taken a look at the cases you cited. I ignored the articles because they aren't case law and I didn't have time. None of them stand for the proposition that a police officer can ignore an apparent crime being committed right in front of him, which was the situation given in this thread.

The issue is tort liability for the state and stae agents. Generall, the state is not liable for its tortious activity, but under some circumstances, it can be. I believe that you could maintain a suit against the government and the individual police officers if they ignored an apparent rape kidnapping because they assumed it was an RP situation.

LOL, that's what I was thinking! If you called the station in advance and said "this is what I'm going to be doing out in the woods, please don't arrest us, etc" you'd probably see at least 10 cops hiding out in the woods, watching. Hehe.

Calling Dateline would be even better. Why settle for cops when you can have a camera crew?

Extreme Exhibitionism.

BUAH HAH HAH!

Don't forget The Germans.....they are always looking for Family TV Stories

You and your Godwinning. Darn you!

My signature is now a Godwin on Demand.

I just can't help imagining the proper police response to this:



Policeman: "It's always about YOU, isn't it sweetie!?"

*petulant pout and sniff*

Policeman: "Why do you think I'm out in the woods in *this* ridiculous outfit, eight hours a day, sore feet, crappy backup? Two weeks setting up? Lady, you've wasted YEARS of academy training!"

Lady: *opens mouth to speak*

Policeman: "No! Just... no."

*turns head away, looks at ground*

Policeman: "I'm... I'm so Very Hurt." *tears fall upon badge*

Policeman: "I am going to call this in to the Jerry Springer show."

wow ...

who wrote the captions on that?



And what will we do now that Phil quit the Interwebs?

I know this is a long post, but I just had to quote all of it. Outstanding.

Oh God. What have I done.

Oh great. Des is good at emoting comedy tears.

Now it's time to go to bed, and my mind is infested with an image of a female alt of Desmond's cruising the grid, alternately breaking hearts and cracking up right-thinking avatars.

WHAT HAVE YOU ALL DONE!!!!

*shudders and pulls the covers over her head*

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I tried Gor a long time ago, I wanted to learn the quality of some of the emoting that happens there, but the politics in IM were out of this world!! I will also add that the slaves run the show there;
'Girl I am bringing a kajira into the fold'
'Girl did you hear what I said?'
'Girl is that ok?'
'Babe answer me, if you dont want her with us just say babes...'

Though I do have to say I met a couple of people who were fantastic roleplayers and their ability at it blew me away.

LMFAO

Yeah that sounds about right really anyway. LOL.

I dunno, but they are the funniest MFers I've come across. Oh how I could learn from them.

Try Lumidor

Elves, humans and nasty things that go burppppppp.....
Its a medieval sim -but with magic

Its a better looking sim
It has elves, some of whom are cute

The friend is a female elfen warrior

and no-one is a bloody slave - thats just for wimpy SL men
who can't get a RL woman.

Plus ye shoppes are full and have cool gear.

Tal all

I m new in SL, and relative new at Gorean World, but I want to share some things .
Ok , I have to admit I was one of the clueless persons about Gor and the people.
But I found a beautifull family , and extraordinay game. Yes is a game no different of vampyres and wizards is all a game!! If anyone thinks is the same of BDSM try to read it , don´t be closed like I was. Gor is not BDSM, Gor is not for dating, Gor is Gor
Be a sensual kajira, or a gracefull freewoman is all for the game.

Be well all , and safe paths

Oh wow! We hadn't had Gor in the forefront awhile now. Glad to find it- I had not read the Desmond police thing before-

Yes, took me a year to read the books. After all the talk I expected something done in crayon by a raving lunatic. The books, though, aren't actually that bad (maybe coming to them expecting crayons and raving lunatics helped make them "not that bad".

I now want a Tarn. I want to fly around on the back of a Tarn, and I want it to be like with Tarl and his Tarn, where the Tarn doesn't want to eat me.

Haven't visited Treve in world or in book form (had two "of Treve" in the Priest-King book), but it sounds like a place with strong women and men. Sweeping down and stealing food and whatever they want from the places around. A mountain fortress for bandits.

Getting rusty now. Thantis, I believe, is the one run by strong women.

Ar is the one that tried to make an empire.

So far I haven't visited any in world, but have found out Treve actually exists in SL. Not sure if it is anything like what it is described to be in book form. Only have the knowledge third hand, so to speak, of what that city might be like.

Thantis was the one with the women in the silver masks - Tarl put things to right there

Glorious Ar does look rather lovely in SL - I took a quick peek and scooted back out rapidly.

Well . . he left it up to the people there. It was a dark place with no humor. Everyone wore grey and frowned a lot. He wanted to leave but was captured and put into a mine. And . . and . . heh, giving away all the plot, eh?