Gorean is it all negative?

OI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come back here SLAVE ...... *grabs cherry by the arm throws her to the floor with his knee on her back ...... maybe you would like to test ol' scrumpy here whill i play shov a penny*

geeesh .... i got into it for the kinky sex ... you telling me its all about beer and beards

Kinky sex? Most of your time in Gor is spent with a captured thing around you lying on the ground eating the grass

Last person silly enough to call me a slave regretted it as I reduced him to a smoking pile of rubble in voice

Yeah fraid so, quite often that's the way the cookie crumbles. The hotties are all in the fetish clubs usually.

This is mainly why I stopped bothering with the UK scene LOL.

***edit*** So basically he just likes keeping sheep? Sheesh. Same old same old, Marty

errrrmmmmm .......... I have no POV to any of the above posts *laughs*

Newsflash. Marty is speechless for once.

LOL

A-men to that! Gor is a tiny and overly-restrictive subset of online BDSM, which in turn is a tiny and overly-restrictive subset of RL BDSM. It's depressing to find that the books I thought were comedy back in the 70's, reading them as a 12 year old kid standing in the railway station bookshop, is now taken seriously by some people, even as a framework for RP!

(most of the straight people I know have a more varied and less defensive sex life than most of the pompous rulebook-obsessed BDSMers...)

I spent about 3 days in Gor yonks ago, and then got in deep **** coz I wouldn't submit. I drove my "master" (lol!) insane with my constant comments when he was trying to get it on. Poor sod. I also poked around tents and houses and was told I needed discipline. Hmmm, sounded too much like boarding school.

Gummi is out to make friends here I see lol.

I dislike labels at the best of times, and I guess I am particularly non-conformist and don't expect rigidity in my play style, orientation or anything else. No giggling about rigidity please people.

(Giggles)

I think it makes sense here where there is the potential for a fantasy at least. Now, my RL BDSM stuff translates VERY badly to SL. C'est la vie

Brat. LOL.

My view, from being an observer and having close friends in Gor, is that the best aspects or it are the social and artistic sides. The social side is that often these places tend to have a real family feel and are often busy. The artistic side is the imagination needed for a fine serve/dance or even whole plays being put on.

My two cents on visiting is that not all Gorean sims are based on full consent. Full consent is that everything that happens is agreed to beforehand by the people involved (most often in IM). When visiting make sure you're visiting a place that IS a full consent sim. Reading the notecards when you arrive is also a must. If you don't receive any notecards when you arrive and there are no obvious signs then I'd suggest you try another place.

As others have said, each place has a different take on Gor and a different style. My advice would be to spend time in a few places before you sign up officially. In my experience a good Gorean sim will allow you to visit as a 'friend' for a while before you decide. That way you can make sure that their sim is the one for you.

Careful Cherry, he will try to collar you if you aren't careful

In the books the majority of the prose is directed at the dynamics of relationships between men and women / Master and slave / why a Freewoman is less free than a slave .. etc.

Far an away more than the swordfighting, etc. Even in the early books. IN the later books this just becomes more pronounced.

Thus in the books at least what you are referring to as negative in your post is the predominant subject matter.

In SL gor of course the fighting is pretty integral because many find it fun to do. And since very few Goreans in SL have seemed to read the books Many might not be all that interested in the whole Master/slave dynamic.

I dont know how negative it is either way.

If they/you(or whoever) are interested in one of the more Action filled books probably 06 Raiders of Gor would be good. Tarl takes on a small army.

If they/you(or whoever) are interested in a book that deals with the Master/Slave/Sex aspects, try 19 Kajira of Gor.

All the books have a romantic twist to them, basically the slave girl falling in love with the Master - and much to his consternation - him falling in love with the slave girl. And by the end they tend to end up "happily ever after"

At least until the next book.

A bit like Harry Potter books on speed then?

not really, no

LOL

He's a bit too late for that

I visited a few Gor Sims, always wore a visitors tag. If one wasn't available I used my titler. Some had dress restrictions: conservative , no excess skin showing, some didn't. I always comply with any Visitors Rules in RP Sims, I've been visiting a lot lately. Some of the Gor Sims are very nicely done, some have nice shopping areas, I've bought several beautiful dresses there. The attention to Visitors has ranged from Welcoming and helpful, to ambivalent, but I've never been engaged unwillingly, although if a Sim doesn't have a clear Visitors Policy or a shopping area , I generally avoid contact with inhabitants and just look around, sort of like a Federation Cultural Observer.

In any case, I respect the rules and spirit of the Sim always, and would never purposely agitate the Role Players in their sandbox. That's just griefing.

I am a bond (kajira) in a Northern Gorean SIM and I love it! I'd be more than happy to give you a tour. Things in the North are less flowery..girls work vs sit around looking pretty in silks. Think along the lines of Vikings in a historical sense. Free women here dont have to wear veils; they can use some weapons though are not allowed to be warriors or mercenaries. If you'd like a look around just IM me in SL or look up Torvic Pass.

As long as you dress correctly, a lot of Gorean sims will shout for a kajira to give you a tour around explaining it all, obviously it tends to depend who is around at the time you visit. Like everywhere else, you get the helpful and friendly and those who will take no notice of you.




If you IM me, I can show you around Eastern Plains which has Tuchuk nomads and also Taluna girls in the woods.

Horned helmets and herring fishing? LOL, just kidding

Recently (and I won't name names) someone in the gorean community was a bit snippish to a friend of mine.

So now, my curiosity is piqued.

I'm very much not understanding of the gor ways, but Purely Hypothetically, could this person be bought, say, if there was a fundraiser?

My experience with Caledon fundraisers is that scary, scary amounts of $L can be raised in a very short time... what does the average gorean go for these days?

I could see raising $L 1 millions without too much trouble, is that in the ballpark?

Say that was accomplished... as we have *no* desire for slaves whatsoever, could we gift said slave to FurNation?

"Hey FurNation friends, I'd like to set up an ambassador and not only that, I got you something!"

Finally, what do you think FurNation might do with a gorean slavegirl - anything useful? Have her pass out treats? Front desk, perhaps? Start a zoo?

Just asking... don't mind me.

I would Never Do Such A Thing, of Course.

Ohh I don't know,

There are plenty of slave girls with poor self esteem. And quite a few escorts who have plenty.

I'm not so sure SL gor "slave training" improves actual self esteem any.

I have known people involved in RL BDSM who have stated it improves their self esteem. But most will state - SL BDSM often is quite different from RL BDSM.

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One pretty notable observation between the two that I have made -

Gorean slave girls complain a lot more about a lack of SL sex than escorts do.

My ex-Mistress and one of her slaves moonlight in a Gor sim as panthers. They have loads of fun battling other RP'ers in other sims. I was dragged around as a Kajira a couple of times, but didn't really interract with anyone while there. Glad I don't go there anymore.

Would it be fair to say that M/s in Gor is more RP than BDSM D/s *generally speaking*? Specifically, there doesn't seem to be the same love and affection between the dominant and slave. Possibly because of the books? There seems to be more capturing, selling, and running away of slaves in general. And three day capture limits.

It also seems like being a Kajira in SL Gor is really really boring. Really really really boring. Unless you do a lot of service. And Love doesn't do service. LOL

It could be also that on SL Gor the Masters are all so busy with play Politics and swordfighting they have less time to dote.

Gor is mainly RP where I think of BDSM as mainly the sexual side. Love between Master and slave is there or the Masters wouldn't spend their time rescuing captured slaves. The capturing and selling is all RP and the limit kajira put on their captured limits is so they can return to their own 'family' within a short period of time.

Being a kajira hasn't been boring to me lately due to near nightly raids and having to escape capture. In fact it has got a little too intense at times with the adrenaline flow that sleep has been difficult. This of course would depend on what type of Gor place you make 'home', out in the plains you never know what will happen at any given time.

Desmond - you might be a genius. Someone treats your friend poorly and you buy them and exact retribution. I love that idea.

I don't know about giving her away, though. Can't you find something for her to do around Caledon? Street sweeper? Chimney sweep? Pick up bits of paper and cigarette butts in the alleys? set her on the sidewalk and have her hold a mailbox on her head - she's a living mailbox post! or doorstop! Hands and knees with a big slab of glass on her back and she's a really interesting coffee table.

On the other hand, given the animosity between furries and goreans, giving her to Furnation might be the ultimate back-hand. They could use her for weapons testing. chew toy...