Avie Descrimination

Lol

poor Raymond...

I would not do that to Trout...or Figgie, for that matter. I was just supplying you with a semi-gory Neko detail.

Of course I consider you a friend! I always have. No offense taken at all. And I hear you on the laughing and pointing. I get a lot of that.

When I arrived and found the sign the first thing i did was im the owner and express my view that while they were entitled to do as they wished, I chose not to do repeat business there. I have not heard back any comment as to the whys or what ever. Of course, they do not owe me an explanation- again that is their right. As is mine to dance elsewhere.

(nope)

edit - but I wouldn't care if she were.

@ GG for the voice ...awwwwe /me smiles

Yeah, see, but I think the "choice" logic leads to a dead-end for exactly the reason you cited earlier: we could all chose nice caucasian avatars and WASPy account names. But some of us chose differently and don't expect to be discriminated against because of it. The question is whether furries (or mechs or tinies, etc) should be expected to alter their choices to match the owner's vision for their sim. And if so, why is this different from asking me to use a non-asian avatar? And, as you continue:...which I think is exactly correct. But it's not because that RL discrimination is for things about which the RL person has no choice. I think we'd feel about equally offended by a sign that said "PROTESTANTS ONLY" as we would by one that says "WHITES ONLY," for example. (Following the same logic, I don't think the reason it's wrong to discriminate against gays is because sexual preference is not a matter of choice. It would be just as wrong if it were a choice, like religion.)

All that said, I still don't object in principle to a venue excluding a particular type of avatar. For that matter, Qie is not going to try-out for the in-world production of "The Sound of Music"--even if I know the words to "Do Re Mi", I don't think I'd look at home prancing around the edelweiss.

I think this statement requires a demonstration. We'll let you know if you're correct after...oh, let's say the 4th or 5th rendition.

Yes, please. I want to hear Qie sing Do-Re-Mi!! Do you use voice?
Everyone,
Do, a dear, a female dear.
Re(y), a drop of golden sunnnnn...

Me, a name I call myself
Fa, a long, long way to run

That's just like saying nekos can attend wearing formal attire too. They just don't blend in these type places.

I've not been to this place called Frank's but I can certainly understand their thinking. They prefer you leave your furs, tails and ears behind.

Nekos can wear formal attire

Formal attire is just formal attire

You mean 100% Human avs in formal attire, that is different.

Oops, you saw me?

What is with the Neko obsession anyway? For disliking it so, you sure do seem to bring it up a lot.

Certainly they can do this. But..


Tails and ears with gowns and tuxeos? The Fashion Police will have a field day with this one.





Ok, Launay, I can feel you nearby.

A lot of furries identify VERY STRONGLY with their avatars. A lot of furries DON"T change avatars like the "humans" change skins and hair. To a lot of furs, their avatar really IS a part of their identity.

Telling them to "take that stupid cartoon character off" is indeed as insulting to many of them, as it would be to tell a Black person that they can come into your restaurant when they clean that brown stuff off their face.

Or more aptly "you can come into my restaurant, but don't act gay."

Or telling a M2F Transsexual to "go home and put on boy clothes and you'll be allowed in."

I wonder what their position is on robots.

LOL!


This is whats being discussed.

You're exaggerating a bit here. Characters here are no way the same as a rl race. Not even close.

Someone once told me that he doesn't want to hire me because I have numbers in my avi name. How is that for discrimination!!!?

Neko are not Furries...we're maybe cousins. And you bring it up even when it's not at all relevant. I've seen the 'Neko should not be in formal wear/at formal events' REPEATEDLY from you.

You've been keeping up with my postings, that's so sweet of you.

/heads to fetch a nice big bowl of milk


Peace offering?

that one is definitely discrimination.

Since LL wont allow you to change your name.

But discrimination based on name is allowed.

Not very justified though, its not like your name is at all offensive or even a joke.

There's no war, I just don't understand why you bring it up as often as you do. It's not as though anyone is trying to force you into ears and a tail.

Actually, seems more justified than most forms of discrimination. Based solely on the fact that my touch-typing skills never extended to the top row of the keyboard.