Save SL: Reduce Your Inventory!

It's been years since I worked on SQL but my understanding is that every time you open your inventory it has to search to find the items you have there. The larger the inventory the longer the search. If the item is sitting in a box at home then rarely does the server have to search for that item from the database.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I understand it.

Obviously this is subjective...which I never implied otherwise. And it's really not my point--there you go again searching for disapproval...goodness, everything I say you oppose, even if it makes no sense.

I'm not saying a bunch of inventory Nazis are going to invade your inventory and choose for you what you need--however, this does not discount the fact that there are a myriad residents that run around collecting things (the majority of us) would say they don't need.

Stop using subjectivity as your argumentative strategy...it only works so often.

The inventory sizes - how much work it takes for them to show up in your inventory - is probably the same for both.

The asset size of a complex object is probably a lot more than for a simple object.

There's probably some metric on "total cost" that also factors in the number of people who have copies of that object but I dunno what that is. Meta might.

I change my clothing for events and special occasions--although rare.

My AV is who I am...I used to use a human, but once I found this HAV unit, I've never looked back.

Is there a point to this? Clothing and Avatars are only a portion of inventory assets...bringing up the fact that I like my appearance and rarely change won't hold up in court...with all due respect.

I just started playing SL again. I admit that I am such a terrible pack rat.

I think I'll go through and re-arrange/delete stuff from my inventory. I have a TON of empty folders and boxes, random items that I have never even opened at all. Plus, I'm getting into the building aspects of SL now. I'll need room for textures...

You know this was a pleasant reminder to wake up to. Now I have something to do while I am bored waiting for friends to log on.

Hey, welcome to the forums!

Yes, it's a great idea (no matter how annoying it may be) to start-off well organized. If you are disciplined, you will be much happier in the long-run.

Im a builder and a "collector" of "stuffs" but my inventory has never been over 3.5K items. What I do is save old items in properly named boxes and those boxes. That works as explained by Zaphod earlier in this thread.

Just go to a club and start dancing and clean out your inventory in the process. It's best if it's not a club where you know everyone or you'll get too busy in chat. Another option, though some will beat me for saying it, is to go to a camping chair and clean your inventory. The amount you make will be ridiculously low but at least you'll feel productive. If you have a really big inventory, then scout one of those places that offer nice clothes if you sit in a chair for awhile. They are kind of like camping chairs with bigger payouts IMO.

Personally, I hate camping and am coming closer to thinking they should be banned. But as long as they are here I might as well do something with my av while inventory clearing rather than standing on my lot like a zombie.

I REALLY like this idea. Not only does it force people to organize their inventories and throw out that "friendship bracelet" aka huge prim cow that sits on your head, but it is a definite incentive to go Premium.

If I were LL, and I'm not, I'd reinstate First Land, and instate a tiered inventory cap.

So who's hosting the yard sale? I've got an entire household of furniture that's clanking around my ankles.

Keep your condescension to yourself, please. I won't stop using subjectivity as the basis of my argument because that's the whole point. I'm not 'searching for disapproval,' I'm saying it's nobody else's business what others chose to keep in their inventories, nor how much of it there is. My SL needs are different than your SL needs are different than Kokoro's SL needs, and no approach is wrong.

You tone DOES imply otherwise, whether you mean it to or not.

Wow, Bradley, you are a brave man. The last thing I want when housecleaning is a crowded sim where I have to keep an eye on packet loss when deleting/sorting (one cause of lost inventory). Besides, I usually look at textures and sometimes rez things when cleaning, so lag would slow me down, and I put on outfits lala ... I do this at home in class 5 empty sim luxury. I've also sorted textures while at the forum hangout listening, which is usually free of packet-loss.

Is there a point to this?: Only that it seemed strange to see whatever it was you originally said, something like "I have 1000 inventory items and I have no idea why anyone else would have more" when I thought you didn't change much. Therefore your inventory would not have more than 1 outfit (1 avatar, 1 bald cap or however you do that), etc. Sorry

Other than the furniture I built myself, I do not have any furniture in inventory. I save pictures to desktop most of the time. I am constantly deleting notecards (stop breeding you little rabbits). I tried to keep control of the LM's but they got out of hand. I delete demos immediately. It was fun to drive or fly or what have you, but I probably do not need all those (10 or so?) vehicles.

So, my point was that most of my inventory is taken up by clothes (not shoes, have just three pairs of shoes I have bought and about 5 other freebie pairs; not really hair, though I have 2 megapacks), and avatars (not shapes, I have one that I love that I had found immediately, and one that I created myself; the avatars are my black lion, alien, etc - I do not have that many avatars, but the pieces in the avatar take up a lot of spots in the inventory).

I don't need to clean out my inventory, Sl does that for me on a regular basis.

And with over 50,000 users online at times now, I suspect the total number of inventory items is growing at a very fast rate.

I could get it to hold up in court. What does that even mean? that it would be admissible? That it would have any weight. I'm pretty sure it would either be inadmissible under ER...lessee...403? 404? Dang - Evidence was a long time ago. I got a B+. Relevancy - more prejudicial than probative. Also, the poster could not be verified properly. It would certainly not be able to be authenticated and it would be heresay without the poster there to do so. At any rate, none of this would stand up in court. Luckily, we aren't in court. We're having a discussion in an internet forum.

I agree with a lot of what you say Michael, but reasonable minds disagree on this one. I think it is very subjective and Ann is correct in pointing that out. What works for you is not going to work for others because we create out own experience in SL. Needs are more subjective in SL. They are easy to define in RL - oxygen, nutrition, hydration, shelter, and certain emotional requirements. I'm sure there's a gray area, but it's pretty narrow. SL itself is not a need. If it ceased to exist tomorrow, we would be upset, but nobody would die. So we choose what we "need" in SL based on how we want to define our experience, since survival is not an issue. Some people, in order to have the experience they want, need to packrat stuff away. Brenda collects shoes because she loves to do it. Oryx seems to be mildly obsessed with hair. I need a huge collection of goofy toys because they make me happy. You need the HAV suit and your inventory for your business because that's how you define your experience. It's subjective and there is no way to get around it.

Wow - long post. What I need and I mean REALLY need, is a breath of fresh air and some caffiene. Maybe a sandwich.

I never said "I have 1000 inventory items and I have no idea why anyone else would have more." I said I have around 1000 items, but I never said I don't see why people need more. I eluded to a much higher number--I think I said I don't know why people need 5000, 10,000...hell, 100k. I realize 5000 or less isn't that hardcore.

Also, you're assuming just because I have one AV now, and only one major outfit, that my wardrobe is minimal. I've been in SL since 2005, and I didn't start out as an android. I have a healthy collection of clothing...however, I'm picky in that respect.

Also, I don't go around collecting items just because they are 'freebies' unless they are textures I need and don't have.

And if people offer me a 'mug of beer' at a club...I don't accept it--that alone would cut down on 100's of objects for some people...

Hey! I'm not wearing a suit...I AM a HAV unit...I don't wear it...I resent that!

Needs. Necessity. Ok, let us agree that the term 'necessity' can not be associated from SL to RL. Let's drop that...clearly it's subjective, there is a digital separation, and a few of you love to use 'argumentative fallacies' when debating. But mostly, you can't argue with someone that doesn't want to learn or listen (if the shoe fits, wear it).

That wouldn't hold up in court. That phrase is pretty simple to understand. Telling me that I know nothing about a high inventory count because I use only one AV and one outfit...that wouldn't even make it to court. I was using 'court' as an example.

I understand it's all subjective (this forums favorite word other than 'opinion'). I'm very open-minded, and I love to discuss and debate. Sometimes I'm abrasive, I know...no ones perfect--I'm working on it. I respect a lot of you...as long as you don't have me pegged before you understand me...that's all I ask. I'll try and give you the same respect.

No, I was assuming that you eliminated that other stuff

And it was 5000k I now see. And for some reason you taketh Sam Elliot's name in vain. (I do not recall Sam Elliot's connection to I, Robot, but . . . )

What in the Sam Elliot are you talking about?!?

*shares her sandwich*

Michael, your own arguments are purely subjective.

You use your own inventory as the standard for an appropriate size, in spite of the fact that frequent threads here in RA indicate 3K-6K to be normal. You declare that clothes, skins, hair, shoes, etc. are unnecessary because you do not feel the need for them, ignoring the fact that most people on the grid do. It's clear that your minimal needs are unusual, so using yourself as the standard is not appropriate.

/me now worries someone will notice if I wear the same outfit twice =:0

Now look who is making assumptions

I said:

When did I say that you would know nothing about high inventory counts? I had only been asking if you did ever change your avatar or your clothes. Then I dwindled away into dots. Of course I left it open to assumptions, and you made them. I had only meant that I was curious to what all else you could have in there without loading up your inventory with clothes and the like kind of inventory item. I, of course, never actually said that part until later.

I have no dog in the necessity fight.

Heh - I also used my own inventory as my guide. What could possibly be in there without loading up on clothes . . .

Actually, I'm a liar--not on purpose however.

I have 5200 items in my inventory...and it's time for a Fall cleaning. I think I can condense that down to 3000 if I wasn't so busy...or dreaded such a boring task.

Doh! You just used it again!