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Kokoro Fasching
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10-16-2007 08:17
I *proudly* state that my current inventory is at 38,749 items. Almost no freebies at all. And yes, I need all of them. I have at least twice that in storage boxes.

In order to have the options at hand to make the look I want for the day/hour/event/week, I have many items. I don't have any real inventory problems either - only time I have 'lost' items is when I purchased something in a laggy sim, and it didn't get posted properly.

Nor do I have much of any problems with teleports, but I will admit that my alt with only 1k items is about half a second faster.

Now if I took all my snapshots and put them in the albums as I have been planning, I would most likely drop about 2k of items. But over all, I keep my inventory pretty clean, only the items I need ready access to are out of storage boxes.
Michael Bigwig
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10-16-2007 08:18
From: Ann Launay
SL itself is not actually 'necessary.' However, if I'm going to play the game the way I want to play it, then my asset collection is indeed necessary to do so. It's a matter of opinion, like I said previously.

Could I walk around with a couple changes of clothes, one set of hair, and a single skin? Sure, but it wouldn't be nearly as much fun for me. I like being able to change my av's appearance on a whim and the majority of my inventory reflects that. Yesterday, I was a lion and, briefly, a wyrmling. Today I'm back to Neko in a froufrou dress. Your priorities are obviously different, but that's the aspect of SL that *I* enjoy.



Fair enough. Perhaps the word 'necessary' is one we should avoid in any leisurely activity.

This answer was what I was looking for...nothing else.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-16-2007 08:18
I think Ann answered Mike's perfectly legitimate question. Helpfulness has been served.
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10-16-2007 08:19
From: Michael Bigwig
Fair enough. Perhaps the word 'necessary' was one we should avoid in any leisurely activity.

Not neccesarily. ;) maybe it just needs to be qualified as "Necessary to Me".
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10-16-2007 08:20
From: Brenda Connolly
Not neccesarily. ;) maybe it just needs to be qualified as "Necessary to Me".


Oxygen is necessary. Food is necessary. Shoes are not.

See my point?

((EDIT--I suppose, however, one could use the word 'necessary' differently. I.E., For me to want to play Second Life, I FIND IT necessary that the game allow inventory hording. This is an acceptable use of the word.))
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Colette Meiji
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10-16-2007 08:22
From: Michael Bigwig
We aren't talking about Sarah Jessica and her shoe fetish...we are talking about an overall hording of many different types of inventory assets.


Well no - we'd be talking about Brenda and her shoe fetish

Or Ann and her Celestial Skin fetish.

Etc..

Reasonable limits on inventory are good, assuming they help. But shopping is also a big aspect of the SL economy.

Buying things you cant keep is counter productive.

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I wonder why LL doesn't impose Inventory limits. Every time this came up before it was said they won't help. But if Zaph's right - they will.
AnnMarie Coronet
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10-16-2007 08:22
Sacrilege! *gets out the pitcfork and torches*


Shoes are necessary... and handbags.... and wardrobes of clothes... and... and...

... and Shoes!!
Brenda Connolly
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10-16-2007 08:23
From: Michael Bigwig
Oxygen is necessary. Food is necessary. Shoes are not.

See my point?


C'mon RoboBoy. Work with me here....... :rolleyes:
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Kokoro Fasching
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10-16-2007 08:23
From: Michael Bigwig
Oxygen is necessary. Food is necessary. Shoes are not.

See my point?


Acually, no, I don't. What is Oxygen necessary for? What is Food necessary for? You are mixing items here. Oxygen is not necessary for fusion power. Food is not necessary for gravity. Shoes are necessary for me to exist in Second Life.

It is all what the qualifier is.
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10-16-2007 08:26
From: Kokoro Fasching
Acually, no, I don't. What is Oxygen necessary for? What is Food necessary for? You are mixing items here. Oxygen is not necessary for fusion power. Food is not necessary for gravity. Shoes are necessary for me to exist in Second Life.

It is all what the qualifier is.


For the base of existence--survival. Without it, we do not exist, and none of this matters. Necessity is subjective I suppose, but let's not try and twist it to conform to other arenas of discussion--I meant 'necessity' in a specific way...it is not necessary to collect shoes, it is however necessary to eat.

:)
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10-16-2007 08:28
From: Brenda Connolly
C'mon RoboBoy. Work with me here....... :rolleyes:


I will if you will.
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AnnMarie Coronet
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10-16-2007 08:30
Show me the necessity to eat in SL!


(
excluding Pie of course...
and the edible panties Brenda tried to hide from view...
and Trout with Fennel and lemon...
and hobbit...
and...
) ...
Kokoro Fasching
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10-16-2007 08:31
From: Michael Bigwig
For the base of existence--survival. Without it, we do not exist, and none of this matters. Necessity is subjective I suppose, but let's not try and twist it to conform to other arenas of discussion--I meant 'necessity' in a specific way...it is not necessary to collect shoes, it is however necessary to eat.

:)


I'm not, you are. The discussion was Second Life, not survival or existence. You moved outside of the discussion to these topics.

With in the discussion topic, Second Life, those items are a necessity for survival for many people.
Colette Meiji
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10-16-2007 08:31
From: Michael Bigwig
For the base of existence--survival. Without it, we do not exist, and none of this matters. Necessity is subjective I suppose, but let's not try and twist it to conform to other arenas of discussion--I meant 'necessity' in a specific way...it is not necessary to collect shoes, it is however necessary to eat.

:)


You have a point, really, Shoes are not a necessity in Second Life.

Neither are cameras.

both are luxuries.

But most people in SL want shoes. And many women want a lot of variety in shoes.

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Luckily for your business some people want cameras
Trout Recreant
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10-16-2007 08:33
From: Nika Talaj
Well Ray, I think that if the item is trans we should actually GIVE it to Trent so he can really tell if, for example, my thong-with-dreadlocks is odder than Trout's roadkill AV. Don't you agree?

<edit: actually, that's not a good example, if I had a roadkill AV I would sure keep it. OK, Trout's new biplane made completely out of freebie penises.>



If I had a freebie penis biplane, I'd keep it. In fact, if I had any building skills at all and if I could yank the flight script out of my current biplane, I'd make a freebie penis biplane and put them in freebie boxes everywhere. Pretty soon there would be a giant squadron of newbs flying around in...

wait - sponsored one-liner alert...

Gives a whole new meaning to the word "cockpit", doesn't it?

The preceding one liner was brought to you by the good folks at Freebie Penis Paradise, serving SL for over 3 days...The ones you trust.

ok, back on track. I think I'm pushing 6500 items or so. It's already at the point where it's hard to find stuff. I don't know how people with 5+figures can do it. This is a great idea. I'll take one folder each time I log on and clean it out. I'm off the freebie collecting jag that I went on when I was brand new, so I'm collecting stuff at a much slower pace. I should be able to reduce the numbers substantially.

Edit: If Trent doesn't want the thong with dreadlocks, can I have it?
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Ann Launay
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10-16-2007 08:34
From: Michael Bigwig
Oxygen is necessary. Food is necessary. Shoes are not.

See my point?

((EDIT--I suppose, however, one could use the word 'necessary' differently. I.E., For me to want to play Second Life, I FIND IT necessary that the game allow inventory hording. This is an acceptable use of the word.))


I prefer 'necessary to my enjoyment.' And I don't consider it inventory hoarding...you're still putting a negative spin on it, just because it isn't something you would do. That's often the issue I have with your posts; whether you mean it that way or not, your phrasing frequently seems to indicate that, if we're not doing it your way, we're doing it wrong.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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10-16-2007 08:34
From: Kokoro Fasching
I'm not, you are. The discussion was Second Life, not survival or existence. You moved outside of the discussion to these topics.

With in the discussion topic, Second Life, those items are a necessity for survival for many people.

NOTHING is necessry for survival in SL for the most part, but we all have things that are necessary to our enjoyment and expression in the game.
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bilbo99 Emu
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10-16-2007 08:36
From: Michael Bigwig
We aren't talking about Sarah Jessica and her shoe fetish...we are talking about an overall hording of many different types of inventory assets.

Everyone please relax, and put the guns down. Just because I want to better understand something or someone, doesn't mean I'm trolling. You guys are too quick to draw.

I'm sorry .. I thought I was helping .. <shrug>
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10-16-2007 08:38
From: Ann Launay
I prefer 'necessary to my enjoyment.' And I don't consider it inventory hoarding...you're still putting a negative spin on it, just because it isn't something you would do. That's often the issue I have with your posts; whether you mean it that way or not, your phrasing frequently seems to indicate that, if we're not doing it your way, we're doing it wrong.


Understood. I'll try to create a casual air to my posts...I don't mean to be abrasive--as you all know, that's just my style. I apologize.

I ask that you all not be so sensitive to my candor. I'm not purposefully rubbing anyone the wrong way.

I used the phrase 'hording' because it's easily understood...and honestly, it is what it is.
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Kokoro Fasching
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10-16-2007 08:38
From: Brenda Connolly
NOTHING is necessry for survival in SL for the most part, but we all have things that are necessary to our enjoyment and expression in the game.


But wouldn't that be a survival point? If you don't enjoy it, you won't stay, therefor you do not 'exist' or 'survive' in SL.

How many just in this thread would stay in SL if everything was reverted back to the blue glowing ball avatars and nothing we could create?
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10-16-2007 08:38
From: bilbo99 Emu
I'm sorry .. I thought I was helping .. <shrug>


I didn't say you didn't help. *shrugs*
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Colette Meiji
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10-16-2007 08:38
In previous versions of this idea it was proposed limited inventory to 10,000 Items, and LL selling additional inventory size if you needed it for a monthly fee.


I suppose even you could get a larger inventory as part of your premium membership and an even larger one if you'd pay for it. Sort of like land Tier.











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Of course - these ideas didn't last because supposedly your inventory size isn't the problem.

But I'm running with Zaph's assertion that it should matter.
Daisy Rimbaud
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10-16-2007 08:40
I do try and cut down on stuff, and i don't think I'm much over 6,000. Things to watch out for especially are duplicate LMs (definitely useful to get rid of those), old notecards from greeters, copies of old items one was working on, demos, and freebies you picked up as a noob but wouldn't be seen dead using now.

However, I doubt that Raymond's thesis that the depression is all due to the fact that no-one will buy no-copy items anymore is valid. Just because he lost a few items he assumes that everyone is now boycotting all the furniture makers.
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10-16-2007 08:41
lol. You guys are just as dramatic as I am--you pretend you're not, and prefer to have an antagonist to point at.

Ah ah...don't even try to disagree...it's true. :)
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10-16-2007 08:45
From: Daisy Rimbaud

However, I doubt that Raymond's thesis that the depression is all due to the fact that no-one will buy no-copy items anymore is valid. Just because he lost a few items he assumes that everyone is now boycotting all the furniture makers.



Ahh I missed that bit - I'm absolutely Certain that economic slow down isn't largely due to lost inventory items.

At most inventory problems are a contributing factor. There are many people who have never lost anything. And quite a few who've only lost small items.
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