does anyone know the LL position on depictions of sexual violence?

As it says in the title.. Anyone know the position of Linden Lab on depictions of rape and sexual violence against women within the new adult continent?

why not ask them, if anyone should know, my guess it would be them.

We probably know as much as you know.

I am pretty sure that this context will be frowned upon though. Wasn't rape one of the cens... filtered words?

The Knowledebase carries a warning that it's a draft, and includes a defnition of Adult content requiring flagging as such
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* Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm)
* Photo-realistic nudity
* Expressly sexually themed content, spaces or activities (whether or not photo-realistic)


Although it doesn't explicitly mention sexual violence, I'd say that LL would almost certainly answer your question by simply referring you to the Knowledgebase.

They've said anything 'violent' would be considered adult.

duh.

really.

duh.

Clearly such content should not be allowed anywhere in SL.

Seconded. And neither should anyone who wants it.

"does anyone know the LL position on depictions of sexual violence?"

69 ?

I don't think that position is violent, just very naughty!

you haven't seen me in that position!

What about a "Dirty Sanchez"???

Or anyone who talks, or even thinks about it.

It is, though. I've seen an animation of a scene in which one avatar roughly slaps around another, forcing her (or him) to have oral sex.

Grossed me out.

I thoroughly disagree: rape fantasies are very common.

The fantasist has control in a rape scenario even as a victim and furthermore gets a kick out of it: the reality of rape is quite a different thing altogether.

By the same token murder and quite a few other representations of criminally anti-social behaviour ought to be proscribed but they aren't because they are not real. Frankly, apart from having a visceral repulsion to age-play myself, I don't fully understand why it is proscribed in SL so long as the account holders are not minors themselves.

Do send a link to Mr. Cato- Thought police i am sure is the next step there

People can fantasise about whatever they like in their heads. You can plan a bank robbery or how to poison a whole city in your head and nobody would know about it, but as soon as your fantasy leaves your head the position is very different.

Art...

Basically it is about being adult and consensual. All other judgments are just our own.

Good one.

SL at its best is art, which isn't to say it has to be a still life with a bowl of roses. Angry nihilism has it's place as a means of expression.

No it isn't. It's different when you begin to really go rob a bank or poison an entire city.

When such an idea leaps out of your mind in SL roleplay, it's no different from a Batman cartoon.

There is an important difference in SL over RL.. it is easier to be certain there is consent in SL. Such fantasies are obviously physically in SL safer too.

There are still obvious psychological risks and I would not advise anyone play around with such fantasies without discussing limits in advance and using a lot of caution.

Not really. Linden Lab owns the Second Life grid so they can make whatever rules they like about what we can and can't do here.
There is also the question of RL laws. In some countries, including my own, Britain, the depiction of extreme sexual violence, whether real or simulated, is now illegal.

Dear God, are we gonna go through THIS again? LOL, seriously folks. Where does the line get crossed between protection and Naziism (Yeah, I just made that word up). Another thread summed up the idea nicely IMHO. The only sexual act that should be completely banned is anything involving children in any way, form or fashion. Anything else is between two consenting adults and should not be banned. Period.

In RL, I'm allergic to pollen. Therefore all the gardens in SL should be banned! Everyone has a hot button just waiting to be pushed. Everyone has opinions on what's fun and what's offensive. Why can't we just respect the opinions and lifestyles of everyone else and quit being such a bunch of self-righteous twits? The main appeal of SL, to me, is the diversity it offers. I can go to different sims and see so many neat and wonderful things. The price of doing that is that I'm probably gonna be exposed to some pretty creepy and disturbing stuff as well.

If we absolutely have to have kids on the grid, then the adult continent makes sense to me in that it's ONE way to keeping the sex stuff away from the underage crowd. Not to mention it's just good PR which Linden Labs needs. Maybe they'll come up with a good system for seperating the adults and kids, maybe they won't. Either way, it's a step in the right direction.

LL did not come up with the idea that having a credit card is a good way to check for adulthood. As I recall, that originated with the gov't. It's been that way for quite a few years now. Why are we blaming LL for all the world's ills? For that matter, if so many people object so strongly to what LL is doing, then why are they even still inworld? Vote with your feet! If you don't like SL, then leave! There are other virtual worlds out there. If enough people agree with you and also leave, then you can bet your butt that LL is gonna figure out what's wrong and fix it PDQ.

So many people on this forum complain that LL is clueless, or stupid or incompetant. The fact is, that by the only real measure of success in this capitalist world, LL is doing ok. New people join everyday. They make more moeny everyday. They constantly get more and more exposure, and thus more and more paying customers. As far as they're concerned, they're doing a fair to good job. They certainly don't have to cater to the teeny-weeny vocal minority......

V/R
Malachi

I wouldn't advise anyone to play around with anything they can't handle in SL. My vampire alt got a very bad reaction once whereby the other player totally freaked out and appeared to be genuinely horrified. I still feel bad for that individual to this day.


I don't see why we shouldn't have to: the point is debatable so long as people feel strongly enough about it either way.

Otherwise I agree with the general tenor of your post.