does anyone know the LL position on depictions of sexual violence?

Lol no, but slavery is... perhaps "frowned upon" or "a taboo" would've been a better description there instead of "crime".


I get what yer saying Mari.. so yeah perhaps. Though I tend to think that falls more under the griefer/asshat catagory than a "forced sexual assault" as the "victim" isn't in on that RP, or forced to continue any of that particular scenario.
As a side note, I've had friends do this when I afk.

you know... since people get sexual gratification from SL and it's perceived as being mainly sex oriented by some (with that being the main intent)

It qualifies as a sexual aid in place... and therefore should be shut down!

That's where kickboxing animations come in useful!

We need new words. Eskimos have 14 words for snow, so why not a new word for consensual rape? For virtual advertising a common agreement on new words for penis, vagina, etc, actually will LL ban scientific recognised words for the human anatomy?

If it ends up banned.. yeh, but I don't think it is as yet?

How about taxpaying? No, that's not really consenual either.

I've not been anywhere NEAR his closet!

N~A~A~A~A~A~a~a~a~aw! =^-^=

Fantasy rape is entirely consensual.

Sexual fantasy rape is not rape.

It's role play.

Good Friday thread, folks. I think I'll just watch from the side lines though.

Not if it's cartoons. Whether it's real or simulated, it has to at least be realistic to fall foul of the new law.

Lulz... can you just imagine some woman in SL wandering around Hard Alley with her finger on the mouse button, just WAITING to run that kickboxing animation?

What are people's definitions of 'rape' fantasy? What experiences might lead someone to have such fantasies? Any thoughts on the men who fantasise about being a rapist? Why do you think there are so many sims dedicted to RP of sexual violence against women?

Some interesting links:
action/activism re 'rapelay' game
http://equalitynow.org/english/actions/action_3301_en.html
impact of attitudes on violence against women
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-36854727_ITM
extreme pornography evidence of harm
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.justice.gov.uk/docs/280907a.pdf

mine are this

"What are people's definitions of 'rape' fantasy?"

a form of BDSM or ruff sex fetish role play
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"What experiences might lead someone to have such fantasies?"

well there are two people having the fantasy to make it happen..a lot of couples like to play different things for spice..
so i would say one likes to be in control like say a master and one would want to feel controlled and helpless..
it could be as simple as playing the opposite of who they are in their real life..
you don't have to have experiences to have kinky on your mind hehehehe
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"Why do you think there are so many sims dedicted to RP of sexual violence against women?"

how many are there that it is considered a lot compared to the amount of sims that are in sl??
a lot of places use a lot of words as a keyword and really if you spend any amount of time in them it doesn't really happen that much..

Also most that i see have this as part of the sim theme and not based on it..and also a lot of sims do copy other sims ideas.. some see others doing so well that they mock them because it gets exposure to a mall or something.. but if you look at the people in them..they are not as packed with people as a lot may think..in fact in most of them you hardly see anyone..

so really i don't see all the hype when most of the sims are sitting empty..
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I think the term is fairly self explanatory. However, a rape fantasy is an imaginary scenario where the individual projects him or herself into a rape situation either as victim, aggressor or both (http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/Young_Virgin_Autosodomised_by_her_own_Chastity.jpg).

The phenomenon does not focus exclusively on abuse of females, neither does it exclusively involve men as aggressors: a gal can do a lot with a dildo or her fist and she doesn't have to be fussy about the gender of her 'victim' either. Such fantasies are typically untalked about but nevertheless common phenomena against which perfectly sane minds may test themselves in the darker regions of the imagination on a frequent and sometimes daily basis.

The distinguishing characteristic of any fantasy is that, as the subject, the 'victim' is in control at all times. See: the 'Stand' and 'Mute' buttons and possibly the 'Eject and ban' feature of the pie menu in the case of SL. Also see: having a good laugh at oneself in the case of RL.

Conversely, the reality of actual rape is that, as the object, the individual is very definitely not in control of an attack on his or her person: they are a real victim, which I personally would not wish on anyone.

That said, an individual who has difficulty distinguishing between the fundamental characteristics of fantasy and reality will probably lack some degree of affect and as such they are well-advised to consult a psychologist.

Those are quite a few much bigger questions than what LL's official position on such content might be. Why do you want to know? Is it for a student project? Have you had a bad experience in SL at one of these places?

My own opinion is that it's fairly pointless trying to work why anybody's sexuality is the way it is. My own is so weird I gave up long ago. I think that anything happening between consenting adults really is nobody else's business and as soon as you step away from that and try to legislate on grounds of taste you are on slippery ground.

ooohhhh I know why you asked now! I just got the notecard from the feminists group, joined the dots and looked you up.

Sorry, I can't support your campaign because I stand by what I said above.

Thanks to someone helping me out with this I can say clearly most things that are already banned in SL are Banned by the new Uk law so, people of the UK have nothing to worry about the avators dont count and real 'photorealistic' imgaes ie pictures of rape forced rape and weapon assault in any way are not allowed on SL anyways. So to end after some research of my own I can say don't worry about it.

Sorry all just helping out the UK people.

Also to help out the UK people affected by their relatively new law (which shockingly has nothing to do with US law...how on earth did that happen, I wonder) you might wish to visit http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/index.html for more details.

<tmi>My personal preference has always been the role of the victim. RL and SL, I like the idea of someone taking over and leaving me to 'innocently struggle'. What few times I've went and tried the dominant role, I've failed. I just can't be that brutish. But, for someone who can, I don't mind it underneath. =^-^= </tmi>

Political agenda aside. It's fantasy. It's virtual. The emotions are real. And, it's a bloody blast. XD

Which is why an *agreed upon roleplay in which either or both could leave at any time simply by shutting off the computer* is consensual, 3Ring and is NOT rape. Not to mention, both people are behind a computer screen perhaps thousands of miles apart.

At most it amounts to combined story writing. Someone else had a good point about it perhaps even being cathartic for some former victims. But EK also was correct in that - according to many experts - 'rape fantasy' is common. And it is VERY different, as he said, from the 'real thing.'

By the way - how do you know the original poster did not ask the question in hopes such things WILL be limited to the adult continent? Why so angry about what other people type to each other in a virtual world, at any rate?



"roleplay"

Some husbands and wives even do so. For instance, the burglar breaks into the home...The KEY difference is that everything is agreed upon in advance and IS consensual. COMPLETELY different than actual rape. Also - again - of course - there isn't even any touching going on in virtual roleplay.

I do, perhaps oddly, think that it's different if someone is roleplaying something sexual involving a child though. To me that represents a wish to get hold of the real thing - I know some here will say it's no different than other forms of roleplay. But it's so far from the real life people roleplaying it. It's a step very far from the norm.

No. (^_^)Yes. (^_^)Somewhat. (^_^)

While It's still arbitrarily against the TOS. Roleplaying child victimization still requires someone to take on the role of the victim. This spans all RP... Be it kidnapping, rape, brainwashing, pet play, and so on. In SL, roleplay is allowed to be played out in a rough visual simulation without actually involving any physical real-world consequences. One of them being the fact that I'm very tall in RL. I can't fight that. There are no sliders on my RL avatar. I was born to grow up very tall and my body wound up that way. (=_=)

Because of this, my role of the victim gets compromised. It takes a special kind of dominant to truly handle that kind of situation. In SL, we can cut down that barrier. The visual can be virtualized. We can take on the role we feel to be. And, our desires are further enhanced. (^_^)

Sadly, for a large number of people, that crosses some invisible moral line and it gets thought policed out of the picture. (>_<

Let me put it this way. I don't like human contact - AT ALL. I can't stand it. I get goosebumps and a lump in my throat at the thought of a handshake. It's part of the reason I spend the majority of my time online. What I do like is Anime, Lolicon Hentai, Manga, sexy and cute cartoons, and cute fantasy art work. I like to reflect those tastes in my character and RP in SL to the limit of the TOS/CS. (^_^)

And, I can solidly speak for myself: NONE of this is an indicator that I want to fiddle with anyone's RL kids. Honestly, get the brats away from me. They bore me, annoy me, freak me out, and they don't match half the cuteness I find on a good lolicon image board. (>_<

I quoted it before, I'll quote it again: "My kink is fine, but, yours crosses the line." (^_^)y

OP is involved in a campaign to get LL to ban sexually violent RP (at least against women) altogether. I know this because of a notecard I received thru the feminists group advertising said campaign.

I have identified myself as a feminist since my early teens and when I first came out as a Very Kinky Person I tied my brain in knots trying to reconcile my sexuality with my political views. What I think now is (and this is an ongoing process) that everybody has a right to their sexuality no matter how strange or un-PC, as long as what they _actually do_ only involves consenting adults. I will continue to identify as feminist as long as there are women in the world who lack control over their lives or who are oppressed or abused because they are women (and there are plenty of those), but I reject any philosophy that says that I, or anybody else, has to suppress such an important part of themselves in order to be acceptable. That's not freedom, that's just oppression from a different source.

(sorry for the speech, I think that notecard set me off)

oh so op is part of the anti-sex league form of feminism that has done more harm than good tying to legislate people into a world wide nunnery where sex is a forbidden word...

All in the name of protecting women because we are defenseless vulnerable creatures by our very nature, yes indeed.

I guess it's not enough that we have to deal with this patronizing brand of "feminism" in RL. Now they want to legislate our virtual morals, too.

She needs to meet women and stop reading chauncer