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Ryan00 Odets
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09-15-2006 13:44
From: Lorelei Patel And if you go back and look at the OP, it says, "I worry about how they must treat their users." I'd hardly call that bashing. Where's that famous thick SC skin? That is the bait to draw out all the lurkers to try to stomp on SC's rep (be it good or bad). Then you joined in to be a voice of reason and only got taken for a ride also. When I was a kid my grandpa told me to never start a fight with the lil guy cause the lil guy has big friends. So if you compare the size of Stratics (in general) to SC, we are the lil guy and all of our big friends came to help us out. Like it or not when you speak of family and friends the people at SC seem to be more family and friends than most people here or anywhere else for that matter.
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 13:45
If this default avatar is offending some new users and it keeps causing problems, why not just change the default to something less offensive?
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Kristian Ming
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09-15-2006 13:46
From: Burke Prefect Well. I happen to have little place at http://board.godswitch.com, using a board called Vanilla, which by default displays by topics posted instead of catagory. There's not much there besides my (restricted) development team notes, but it can be fitted out for general discussion. One small caveat, you have to register and let me approve you first. This is to prevent spamming. Vanilla operates different from phpbb and vbull, I picked it for the new features and because it's not a security breach waiting to happen. (generally) .  I <3 vanilla.
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Ryan00 Odets
just a stupid redneck!
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09-15-2006 13:49
From: Corona Lime If this default avatar is offending some new users and it keeps causing problems, why not just change the default to something less offensive? I dunno maybe because its a statement to either get one you like or just deal. But really I dunno.....
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Ryan00 Odets
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09-15-2006 13:49
From: Kristian Ming I <3 vanilla. I love vanilla pudding with bananas!!!!
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Lewis Nerd
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09-15-2006 13:50
From: Ryan00 Odets I love vanilla pudding with bananas!!!! I prefer mine with busty redheads.... Lewis
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 13:50
Just seems like it would solve alot of problems. But then again, from what I gather SC isn't necessarily about making it so everyone isn't offended or disrespected.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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09-15-2006 13:52
From: Ordinal Malaprop it seems to comprise an honest bunch of people who won't stab me in the back. In that detail, you are quite wrong. coco
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Lewis Nerd
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09-15-2006 13:54
From: Corona Lime Just seems like it would solve alot of problems. But then again, from what I gather SC isn't necessarily about making it so everyone isn't offended or disrespected. If you think about it, it's a clever marketing tactic. Ever tried telling a child "don't look in that box" or put out a sign saying "Wet Paint, do not touch"? The child will go out of their way to find out what's in the box, and people will poke the wet paint to see if it still is wet. People are going over to SC to see if this offensive avatar thing is really true, possibly sign up there whilst over there, post once or twice, and give up; thus increasing the user numbers but not necessarily active users. Lewis
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Ryan00 Odets
just a stupid redneck!
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09-15-2006 14:01
From: Lewis Nerd I prefer mine with busty redheads.... Lewis Damnit Louie why you have to bring in busty redheads........... my only kryptonite
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 14:02
I really doubt that was the original intent. Rather, I think it was meant as a sort of funny hazing thing. After all of the problems it has caused and people beinhg offended by it why not change it to show you respect your users views?
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Lorelei Patel
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09-15-2006 14:04
From: Ryan00 Odets That is the bait to draw out all the lurkers to try to stomp on SC's rep (be it good or bad). Then you joined in to be a voice of reason and only got taken for a ride also. Disabuse yourself of the notion that I got "taken for a ride." I posted because I didn't like how you were beating up on BB. My choice. No one asked me to and no one has been directing my posts or my opinion but myself. From: someone When I was a kid my grandpa told me to never start a fight with the lil guy cause the lil guy has big friends. Is everything framed in terms of a fight or bashing? Some people have opinions you don't share. This is not a reflection on you or even on them. They will express their opinions much as you do. Big. Freakin. Deal. Not everyone is looking for a fight. You really do not need to take personal offense just because someone sees something differently than you. From: someone we are the lil guy and all of our big friends came to help us out. This us vs. them mentality is so sixth grade.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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09-15-2006 14:10
From: Cocoanut Cookie In that detail, you are quite wrong.
coco I've not seen any backstabbing. Frontstabbing, certainly, but that's to be expected.
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Lewis Nerd
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09-15-2006 14:10
From: Ryan00 Odets Damnit Louie why you have to bring in busty redheads...........
That's Lewis. I happen to like redheads... that's why my girlfriend is one... next time you're in-world look me up and I'll show you the picture. Lewis
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Siggy Romulus
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09-15-2006 14:10
From: Corona Lime If this default avatar is offending some new users and it keeps causing problems, why not just change the default to something less offensive? The funny thing is - it isn't causing problems. The only 'problems' seem to be thin skinned politically correct bohemians running to other sites, sphincters puckered, and telling others how 'offended' they are. To those that actually post on SC it doesn't cause a problem at all.. I think its a community service... if you get offended at the 'fucktard' av, chances are you'll probably shit your pants and have a heartattack if you actually get involved in some of the livelier discussions. Fuck it - I say keep the bastard - it's doing us all a favor.
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Siggy Romulus
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09-15-2006 14:11
From: Cocoanut Cookie In that detail, you are quite wrong.
coco Noone stabbed you in the back.... FIC fucked you in the ass... but thats another story.
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Ryan00 Odets
just a stupid redneck!
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09-15-2006 14:12
From: Lorelei Patel Disabuse yourself of the notion that I got "taken for a ride." I posted because I didn't like how you were beating up on BB. My choice. No one asked me to and no one has been directing my posts or my opinion but myself. Wheither or not you post on your own free will isnt the debate you got drawn in because you felt the need to try and defuse a volitate situation. This might be a bit "middle schoolish", wouldnt you attempt to defend something you was a participate in if somebody was "bashing" it? The thing is billybob knew he was going to get ganked by stating his position on SC yet instead of just making a simple statement he felt the need to stereotype the entire user base there. I take offense to being stereotyped like that. I am a complete idiot all on my own and dont need to be crumpled into a group of wanna-bes. Take this a you win or whatever but I must leave now so good day.
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 14:13
From: Siggy Romulus The funny thing is - it isn't causing problems.
Seems to me that an 11 page post about said avatar wherein people are called "Goatf*ckers" is a slight problem. But, maybe it is just me...
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Macphisto Angelus
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09-15-2006 14:15
Welcome back to the official forum everyone. Regardless of the circumstance that brought you here it is nice to see everyone back posting here again. SC is the junkyard dog out there. It has a bark and if you screw with the dog (or sometimes if it just smells some fear) you are gonna get bit. I wonder at the what, .5% of the people that ever frequented this board that didnt hear about the avatar protest. The more it gets brought up the less shocking it actually seems to most people. Kind of like desensitizing people to it. Anyway people have lots of choices for boards out there. If SC doesnt set right walk away. I can't view SC as a restaraunt because it was created by it's owner as a place to hang out. It never asked to be the board that got the most posters etc. That all happened because LL was lax in the ability to control their backyard so they sent us out to have a BBQ somewhere else. What started as a place to hang out for friends became the place the majority of posters went to. Good for SC. But to constantly talk bad about them is not going to change a thing. People need to make their own mind up. Grab an avatar on your way and you wont get the joke one. Just don't get in your mind it "should be this way or that way" because the flow of the board and it's policies are going to be determined by those that frequent it. It is not Linden Lab it is a public arena. Once you can realize that then you will be just fine. BTW giving someone an avatar saying they are a F-tard does not make them one. Sticks and stones people. 
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 14:17
From: Macphisto Angelus Welcome back to the official forum everyone. Regardless of the circumstance that brought you here it is nice to see everyone back posting here again. SC is the junkyard dog out there. It has a bark and if you screw with the dog (or sometimes if it just smells some fear) you are gonna get bit. I wonder at the what, .5% of the people that ever frequented this board that didnt hear about the avatar protest. The more it gets brought up the less shocking it actually seems to most people. Kind of like desensitizing people to it. Anyway people have lots of choices for boards out there. If SC doesnt set right walk away. I can't view SC as a restaraunt because it was created by it's owner as a place to hang out. It never asked to be the board that got the most posters etc. That all happened because LL was lax in the ability to control their backyard so they sent us out to have a BBQ somewhere else. What started as a place to hang out for friends became the place the majority of posters went to. Good for SC. But to constantly talk bad about them is not going to change a thing. People need to make their own mind up. Grab an avatar on your way and you wont get the joke one. Just don't get in your mind it "should be this way or that way" because the flow of the board and it's policies are going to be determined by those that frequent it. It is not Linden Lab it is a public arena. Once you can realize that then you will be just fine. BTW giving someone an avatar saying they are a F-tard does not make them one. Sticks and stones people.  Very sensible words. I can now leave this topic feeling good about it. ,-)
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Siggy Romulus
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09-15-2006 14:19
From: Corona Lime Seems to me that an 11 page post about said avatar wherein people are called "Goatf*ckers" is a slight problem.
But, maybe it is just me... That would be causing problems here - not problems there. So.. why should they change there forums because some people here have sand in their clits? As for me - I went there for the avatar, stayed for the fun.
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Corona Lime
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09-15-2006 14:23
From: Siggy Romulus That would be causing problems here - not problems there. So.. why should they change there forums because some people here have sand in their clits? I was under the impression that the badmouthing of SC caused by the starting of this thread that was caused by the offensive avatar was a problem to some SC members in this post. They sure seemed to have a problem with it. Theorhetically, if the avatar was non offensive, this post would not have been made and the fight that insued, including the offense taken by the SC members in this thread, would not have occured. Thus, problem solved.
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Ryan00 Odets
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09-15-2006 14:24
From: Lewis Nerd That's Lewis. I happen to like redheads... that's why my girlfriend is one... next time you're in-world look me up and I'll show you the picture. Lewis ohhh one last thing Louie just because Racquel Darrian responds to your email doenst mean shes your girlfriend!!!!!
ps that is a automated repsonce man!
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Siggy Romulus
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09-15-2006 14:25
From: Corona Lime I was under the impression that the badmouthing of SC caused by the starting of this thread that was caused by the offensive avatar was a problem to some SC members in this post. They sure seemed to have a problem with it.
Theorhetically, if the avatar was non offensive, this post would not have been made and the fight that insued, including the offense taken by the SC members in this thread, would not have occured.
Thus, problem solved. See previous post re: thin skinned bohemians with puckering sphincters. Thus: No problem None for SC anyways... The problem is with the badmouther as far as I can see.. not with the forums they ran away from.
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Lewis Nerd
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09-15-2006 14:27
From: Ryan00 Odets ohhh one last thing Louie just because Racquel Darrian responds to your email doenst mean shes your girlfriend!!!!! Never heard of her *shrug* But this person is very very real, and doesn't come with a repair kit either. Lewis
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