An interesting bit of hypocrisy

Jeska is gonna shit a brick when she sees this.

More likely shit a 4 story apartment building with a wonderful lakeside view.

Wonder Sumpin...

Side note:

What do you think 'the escapist' article on this will be called?

I would suggest 'Tickle the Proles Prostate' as a catchy title..

Best quote ever!!!!

Yeah, I spelled it wrong and didn't save the PS file. That's why I'm not a SL Stockholder™.

I can't even begin to express how wonderful and magical this post is.

All I see posted is a public chat transcript. I do not see any private conversation posted. Therefore I do not see this as being a violation of the TOS.

However, just in case it does get censored (which I can't see why it would), I've reposted the first post over on SLuniverse.com here: http://www.sluniverse.com/forums/Topic5922-18-1.aspx

lmfao

you rule! they have to adopt this as their logo!

LOL omg i love it!!!

Please join the group and come to the next meeting

This group was not intended to be about self appointed representation for everyone in SL. It started out as a discussion, and quickly snow balled into something else - its moved so quick that my head is still spinning. What is the group? Well at the moment, with so many opposing views in so many discussions in such a short time, I don't think that has been established yet, but its based on an agenda which is open to any one interested. So I can not urge enough those with concerns to join the group and come to the meetings with an open mind before sentencing.

Do not judge the group by one person. Not Mulch, not Anshe, not myself. It is just that, a group, a group with those who wish to put forward a loose agenda to LL. Of course you get people with self interests and extreme views in any group of people, but this group is not composed of those with all the same views. This agenda is at a very basic level and does not favour land dealers over content providers or consumers, or vice versa. Anshe was chosen as spokesperson for the group because of her obvious presence in SL. Is that wrong? Well you tell me - would you have asked someone who has been here 2 months on basic, or someone like Anshe? Being a competitor in SL with Anshe, our relationship has been pretty colourful - just review the forum history between us for examples, but this whole thing has vastly changed my views on her. She did a great job in being spokesperson for the group - putting across the groups views and not just her own. There were a couple of things said that were less than appropriate, but I put that down to nerves and the language barrier. I am not sure I could have done better.

As for the media. I also voted that I did not want them there. This was a vote of opinion, nothing else, I mean what will the vote achieve lol? Why did I vote that way? It was based on my experiences of the 'media'. The only 'newspaper I have read is not much more than a drama rag, and it was a vote against that. I do believe in freedom of speech, but I just hate some of the ridiculous stuff written and didnt want it to turn into a drama fest and ruin somehting that could lead to something interesting. Maybe I was wrong there.

How did we get an audience with Philip and Robin? I am sure many of you have arranged to meet various Lindens in world about all kinds of stuff, both as individuals and as groups. I see this as no different. Of course the fact there was more than one individual asking for the meeting, and the fact wthat Anshe was or spokesperson helped, but its about her presence in SL, not her money. If LL really bowed down to those who pay high land tiers, Anshe and others like myself would not have any concerns to raise.

I hope that Philips responses and the 'openess' of the group will pursuade you that this is no 'FIC' lol. Please, please, if you have concerns, come and share them in future meetings.

On a bright note, and totally off topic -- Catherine and Siggy and Nolan agree.

OMG!

I motion that you be renamed Pwndari Lopez...

... do I hear a second?

It is my opinion that this would be the start of a player run governement. Maybe in some peoples country people appointed themselves as a leader. Where I am from we do not. We have an election, and I would note elect a head spokes person who once said something along these lines.

" I am a material girl with a money fetish - this means I get very kinky if you give me a nice gift. I don't know why. It kinda happens. Just a reaction of my body getting very hot. Maybe because I feel you show me special appreciation. So many boys want to make love and have nice words, but not so many boys really give up something they cherrish. This is why I ask for a little tip when you meet me "

well when you start out as monica there is no way to become bill

No, that would be Jarod. To him, EveryThinG is analogous to the comic book industry.

And deep below in the bowels of hell.... well not the bowels.. the lower intestines of hell.... Satan bellows with glee... 'And soon I shall return to the earth and there will be much fire and brimstone and reproduction of yugo's shall commence!!! all I need is the blood of a SL virgin......
................. aw fuck!'

Hiro, really no offense, an nothing personal but a group who assumes the name "the metaverse justice league" is just bad news. Who's justice? Are they going to consult me if I'm not in the group as to what constitutes metaverse justice? That's going to have to be a pretty huge group. Like all of SL. What if I'm not online?

I belong to the group Ravenglass Rentals. Prokofy called a vote to announce the formation of a group called Metaverse Justice Watch (I believe) and that anyone who had concerns about the future of SL was welcome to attend. There are MANY people in this group, so the meeting was hardly a secret.

I attended that meeting and the one with the Lindens. Prok did ask if a press release should be sent to news publications, but the response from the majority of people was "No, let's wait. People will just assume that we are another FIC."
At the meeting with the Lindens, I, as a member of the press, was asked to leave by a small group of people (seven to be exact). However, when I asked Prok if I should leave, he (who organized this meeting to begin with) said I should stay.

I think everyone is a stakeholder in SL, but SOME -- the ones who consider this to be just a game, will never consider themselves so. I don't know Anshe personally, and have not formed an opinion of her, but I really believe that is all she meant by that particular statement.

I consider SL to be an alternate reality for me. I have a full life there, with friends, family and a business. I share the same concerns that Anshe mentioned. I want to see SL grow and prosper so that I can forever live there. Does that make me a bad person?

Maybe this is a grab for power. Maybe it is the efforts of the high and mighty. But how do you know? Instead of bashing the group and getting angry, why not take a "wait and see" approach?

The government in SL is not a democracy, but more of a monarchy, with Lindens setting the rules and policies for our world. Those who believe that SL is another world, like me, would like to have some say so in how our world is created.

At the end of the meeting, Prokofy said, "Perhaps you will one day sign a Magna Charta lol?" To which Philip Linden replied, "It would be so inspiring to have a document like that!"

For those of you who have forgotten your British history, here's a brief lesson:
The Magna Carta is an 1215 English charter which limited the power of English monarchs, specifically King John, from absolute rule. Magna Carta was the result of disagreements between the Pope and King John and his barons over the rights of the king: Magna Carta required the king to renounce certain rights and respect certain legal procedures, and to accept that the will of the king could be bound by law. Magna Carta is widely considered to be the first step in a long historical process leading to the rule of constitutional law.

To me, it sounds as though Prok believes that the residents of SL should have more input into the decisions LL makes regarding SL. It also seems as though Philip agrees. Isn't that what we would like to have happen? I don't understand how all of the anger and personal attacks will clear this up or make SL a better place to be.

I would also like to point out that I am not a member of this group, and that I don't agree 100% with what was said at the meeting either. I am not defending them. I am simply suggesting that we give them a chance to prove that they are not another FIC. Give them a chance to prove that they want what is best for ALL of SL, and not simply what is best for them.

Yes I agree its a bad name. But don't base your opinions on the name, base it on the agenda that has so far been drawn up.

Insinuating that people who spend large sums of money on SL are somehow above the "casual user", or "player", is a "great job"? That is how she set the tone for the meeting.

Since when did nerves or language barriers cause people to put themselves and their interests above others? In my experience in dealing with thousands of persons for whom English is not their first language, it has been my observation that generally they are a bit reserved. *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Lynn Lippmann
On a bright note, and totally off topic -- Catherine and Siggy and Nolan agree.

OMG!




Who you calling a virgin

rolling

My god. I take a break from reading this board and come back to discover that Humpty Dumpty is real, The Who were right ("Meet the New Boss" and after months of standing on his wooden crate in Hyde Park, screaming endlessly about hidden conspiracies, Prokster has joined forces with Anshe.

Sorry, but I ran out of popcorn after page 3 of this thread. What kept going round and round in my head was how utterly right Clay Shirky was about all this -- if one inner core group fails, another will take its place. Prok used to call BS on me about that, but the incredible irony seems to be that he's helped make it come true.

Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.

I used to have a small circle of friends and a clubhouse. We used to sit in our tree on Saturday afternoons making up rules all the time. And it never changed a thing.

We’ll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again

Right Keep dreaming.

Typical.




Ya think?



Sigh.

Well i think Katt explained it well -

" think everyone is a stakeholder in SL, but SOME -- the ones who consider this to be just a game, will never consider themselves so. I don't know Anshe personally, and have not formed an opinion of her, but I really believe that is all she meant by that particular statement."

And I know from experience with posting against Anshe, she is not reserved