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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 11:55
From: Weedy Herbst So SLCC is not public? You are turning black to white again. Prok's gender was well known coco. Your revisionist words are lost on most people here. SLCC was way after the Nolan/Others outing incident. coco
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Schwanson Schlegel
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11-17-2005 11:55
Prokofy has continually bashed and harassed Cristiano, Aimee, CrystalShard and others in his blog for months since being banned, and also posted comments about them on the SLH. Why should Prokofy be allowed to come back and continue the harassment here?
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 11:56
From: Weedy Herbst Article is not even out yet. Prok coaches you well. Prok told me the article was coming out. He did not "coach" me. Who coaches you? coco
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Dianne Mechanique
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11-17-2005 11:56
From: Aimee Weber The point of my post is this... just a little over a week ago Prokofy had three posts removed from Hamlet Linden's blog about my Political Parties Article. Hamlet stated that the rules that govern his blog are the same as the ones for the forums, and Prokofy was in violation multiple times. I managed to see one of the posts before it was removed and yes, it really was far more vicious that the other posts, and even made the obligatory accusation of facism.
So my question is, are you guys simply advocating the return of Prokofy, or are you also asking for a full package of policy changes to accommodate his return? It seems like I am advocating pure anarchy. What a storm over one post! I feel like.... Ulrika! 
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11-17-2005 11:57
From: Jake Reitveld My point chip is that some other s do exactly the same thing, and are not banned. Oh? Name me even one other person that posts 3000 words a day attacking and slandering specific groups and individuals, day in and day out. I sure can't think of anyone.
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 11:58
From: Aimee Weber The point of my post is this... just a little over a week ago Prokofy had three posts removed from Hamlet Linden's blog about my Political Parties Article. Hamlet stated that the rules that govern his blog are the same as the ones for the forums, and Prokofy was in violation multiple times. I managed to see one of the posts before it was removed and yes, it really was far more vicious that the other posts, and even made the obligatory accusation of facism. So my question is, are you guys simply advocating the return of Prokofy, or are you also asking for a full package of policy changes to accommodate his return? Since this was addressed to me (or at least followed a quote of mine), I will say, again: I do not advocate the return of Prokofy. coco
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Enabran Templar
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11-17-2005 12:03
From: Cocoanut Koala I do not advocate the return of Prokofy. If Prokofy's dearest friend thinks it's a foregone conclusion that unbanning from the forum would ultimately result in banning from SL at large, that should tell us all something important.
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Jonquille Noir
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11-17-2005 12:04
From: Dianne Mechanique It seems like I am advocating pure anarchy. What a storm over one post! I feel like.... Ulrika!  Meaning you were just trolling?
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 12:06
From: Enabran Templar If Prokofy's dearest friend thinks it's a foregone conclusion that unbanning from the forum would ultimately result in banning from SL at large, that should tell us all something important. Yes, it should, Enabran. coco P.S. I don't believe I am his dearest friend.
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Artemis Fate
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11-17-2005 12:06
From: Margaret Mfume Thanks for posting your thoughts, Dianne, enough time has past for an evaluation of the effectiveness of the action to be in order. Hmmm yes let's see if it's worked: Recent posts on his blog: "Direct, profane attacks aren't especially effective, but you can understand how the pigheadedness and bloody-mindedness of these tekkies exasperates" "Well this stupid little bitch doesnt know anything of what she's talking about." "Wow, the writing life is going to be SO difficult with the FIC now consolidated in one big mega-FIC-blog, requiring daily, if not hourly rebuttals to stay chipper ROFL." "This is such a dumb-ass, narrow-minded, arrogant fucktard point of view you have about spreading crap throughout the world" "Freeview is a PIECE OF SHIT as we've established." "Listen, dumbass." "Beau, welcome to the Dumbass Club yourself." "It's amazing how stupid you all are for claiming you are so smart. You'd rather group-think and circle your dumbass wagons that let in the truth." "It's not about "slander," it's about reporting on the continued assholery of people inworld in this clique, and your utterly contemptible continued defense of them." "Once again, Freeview is a piece of shit." "Really, with this widespread IT asshole culture, our country is doomed." Okay.....personal attacks? Check. Insane fixation on imaginary shadow governments? Check. Spreading rumours and libel against users and their products? Check, and double check. Yep. Prokofy is exactly the same as before if not worse.
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Margaret Mfume
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11-17-2005 12:12
Why on earth did you copy from a blog and post it here? Especially in response to my post. You're appearing obsessed and trollish to me.
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Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:13
From: Margaret Mfume Why on earth did you copy from a blog and post it here? Especially in response to my post. Your appearing obsessed and trollish to me. Ostrich much?
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Margaret Mfume
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11-17-2005 12:15
From: Weedy Herbst Ostrich much? Back off of me. I don't drink koolaid.
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Artemis Fate
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11-17-2005 12:17
From: Margaret Mfume Why on earth did you copy from a blog and post it here? Especially in response to my post. You're appearing obsessed and trollish to me. I was simply giving examples to prove that Prokofy hasn't reformed or changed at all from when he was banned. It was in response to your earlier post stating "enough time has past for an evaluation of the effectiveness of the action to be in order" I took this as a forum equivilent to a parole meeting in a prison. You bring a prisoner up, see if they've changed from when they went in to the prison and if they have maybe they'd get let out. But if you bring a prisoner in for murdering little girls with a knife, and 5 years later at parole he expresses his deep desire to find a little girl and buy a knife, they say "Nope, not changed at all, throw him back in". Since there's no better sources to get examples of his behaviour after the banning, I pulled quotes from his blog to showcase how much he's remained the same if not gotten worse.
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11-17-2005 12:17
From: blaze Spinnaker Rather than bringing back Prokofy, I suggest more heavy moderation / banning on the trolls that make the forums unpleasant at the moment. So basically you're supporting your own ban, then?
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 12:19
"enough time has past for an evaluation of the effectiveness of the action to be in order" Hmmm. I took that to mean the effictiveness of the actions on the forums, and the new rules, rather than the effectiveness of the action on the person it was used on. coco
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Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:19
From: Margaret Mfume Back off of me. I don't drink koolaid. WTF is that supposed to mean. Bury your head in the sand all you like. Prok is an asshat and was banned for her own actions and continues to savagely attack others in-world. You are wearing your bias on your sleeve Margaret. At least I can admit to bias.
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Artemis Fate
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11-17-2005 12:19
From: Cocoanut Koala "enough time has past for an evaluation of the effectiveness of the action to be in order" Hmmm. I took that to mean the effictiveness of the actions on the forums, and the new rules, rather than the effectiveness of the action on the person it was used on. coco Good point, it could be taken that way too. But I stand by my evaluation.
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11-17-2005 12:21
From: Dianne Mechanique It seems like I am advocating pure anarchy. What a storm over one post! I feel like.... Ulrika!  I cannot imagine why you would take enjoyment in feeling like an attention whoring troll. Nor can I imagine you as the type of person who would prefer the constant bile to the relative calm that has been in existence since that psychotic was banned. Let's just say you're surprising me in unpleasant ways.
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Weedy Herbst
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11-17-2005 12:21
From: DogSpot Boxer So basically you're supporting your own ban, then? Hehe, we agree to something. 
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11-17-2005 12:25
From: Artemis Fate Hmmm yes let's see if it's worked: One of the big differences I see between Prok's posts (yes, I went back into the archive to take a look) is that the people I consider malcontents here have more finesse in how they say things. That doesn't mean the knife doesn't cut as deep, it's just not as direct. For the record, I have no position on the topic. I don't care one way or the other.
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Max Case
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11-17-2005 12:29
Questions like this should have a poll attached.
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Artemis Fate
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11-17-2005 12:30
From: Max Case Questions like this should have a poll attached. And pie graphs, then we could make a pac-man!
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Cocoanut Koala
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11-17-2005 12:30
From: Cienna Samiam I cannot imagine why you would take enjoyment in feeling like an attention whoring troll. Nor can I imagine you as the type of person who would prefer the constant bile to the relative calm that has been in existence since that psychotic was banned. Let's just say you're surprising me in unpleasant ways. I can't imagine how or why anyone would actually take enjoyment in calling another poster an "attention whoring troll." Nor can I imagine how or why anyone could take pleasure from calling someone else "a psychotic" or other similar sorts of names we frequently hear tossed about here. What I really can't figure out, though, is why people get away with doing that on these forums time after time, all the time. It's plain uncivilized. coco
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11-17-2005 12:31
From: Artemis Fate I was simply giving examples to prove that Prokofy hasn't reformed or changed at all from when he was banned.
It was in response to your earlier post stating "enough time has past for an evaluation of the effectiveness of the action to be in order" I took this as a forum equivilent to a parole meeting in a prison. You bring a prisoner up, see if they've changed from when they went in to the prison and if they have maybe they'd get let out. But if you bring a prisoner in for murdering little girls with a knife, and 5 years later at parole he expresses his deep desire to find a little girl and buy a knife, they say "Nope, not changed at all, throw him back in".
Since there's no better sources to get examples of his behaviour after the banning, I pulled quotes from his blog to showcase how much he's remained the same if not gotten worse. I was talking about the state of the forum since the ban as Dianne did in her original post. I never confused an action taken here as being intended to contol all of the internet. I've taken a stand against posting links ealier in this thread. To go beyond that and bring actual quotes here? Calls were made to ban Coco when it was suspected that she was being used to channel Prok's posts. Should you be banned for blatantly defying LL and posting his blog here?
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