Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???
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Roseann Flora
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08-07-2006 01:24
From: Damien Skolem Yet another person who tries to justify it. Once again I'll say this.
PEOPLE GO THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR TO LEARN!
Why in the fuck are so many people trying to justify and make it out to be no big deal? Has second life brainwashed you or did you believe this before?
Let's see. Second Life does not tolerate racism, nothing of the like but they do tolerate something that is actually in rl illegal. All other porn sites have to have age verification, SL dropped it and SL has tons of porn...not just avatar porn either.
What you are speaking of is the past. 100 years ago, do you think people were as aware of what we are now? We have these laws for a reason. We declared it wasn't right and it would be better to wait till the person's body and mentality were mature enough to make decisions on their own. Do you think women would also be better off living in the same ruling as of 100 years ago? Do you think they would want to be married off by age 15, have 7 kids by the age of 18, have no options of contraception, born and bred to be nothing more than just a baby making girl with a husband? Not only that, the physical risks of having all of those babies.
Sexual ageplay in this game is different. Most of the time, it's someone who plays a child, an infant someone definetly under 13. You can justify all you want but SL, based out of San Francisco is really starting to make me wonder if the reason why they don't care to do anything about is because maybe they think there's nothing wrong with it. There is. They choose to ban only one offensive content and that is a white racist. Sexism is allowed, having sex with animals, kids and who gets banned? One group even though in rl it's not illegal to be a racist. It's only illegal if you kill and the motive was racism.
All of you bitching about the thought police, there is a difference in saying and doing. If a person wears a nazi symbol, someone reports them, they are banned. Someone fucks a child avatar, they stay. Now you tell me freedom of expression again? That term can apply to everything and anything.
The fact of the MATTER is this. If SL doesn't shape up now, I guarantee you very soon, this game is going to get the reputation of being a game that has alot of porn, beastiality art, pedophilia.
If SL really cared about weeding out the kids and teens that are in this game, they wouldn't have promoted their game using MTV full of teen viewers and they would require age verification. Just because SL has dumbed down the process of signing up doesn't mean that their sales will boost because alot of teens have joined in what is supposed to be an adult game which IT IS. If SL thinks they are above all other games and have some high priority or special rights, they are wrong.
I guarentee you that any of these people that engage in sexual roleplay with a child avatar and the other way around are using it for real life arousal and probably are obsessed with children in that manner so they probably have tons of child porn. Chears and claps! |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-07-2006 06:54
From: Damien Skolem I can spot a gay guy in real life! I can spot a drag queen. I can spot a pregnant woman and spot someone who has had plastic surgery. You seem the sort that walks around with a notebook and records these sightings in case the authorities will later require the information. Though I detest the term "drag queen", I can assure you that if you met me on the street all you would see is a middle-aged jewish woman with a cute tush. ...That is, of course, unless I hiked up my skirt, showed you my 2 inches of man-meat and started shaking my ass while asking "Who's yer daddy?". Age play is not about pedophilia --it's about the excitement of adults acting out as children. Nobody is under the belief that they are with children any more than Furries think they are yiffing kittens. |
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Mickey McLuhan
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08-07-2006 07:18
From: Damien Skolen Second Life does not tolerate racism, nothing of the like but they do tolerate something that is actually in rl illegal. Ok.. for the last time. AGEPLAY IN RL IS NOT ILLEGAL. You're mixing the issue. Paedophilia IS illegal, but ageplay isn't. Some 40 year old wants to wear diapers and have "Daddy" have sex with them? Not illegal. Sick, maybe. Not my thing, definitely. But not illegal. If you're worried about the fact that kids do, sometimes, get onto the adult grid, because of the lack of age verification (which, by the way, most porn sites DON'T have. At most they have a "Click here if you're 18" button, which, of course, is TOTALLY effective in keeping kids from seeing inappropriate material... ), then you should be calling for the banning of ALL adult material. Realistic skins with genitals and nipples. Uncensored songs at clubs. Sex toys. Xcite stuff. Mature pictures. Sexual Poseballs. Lingerie. Leather and bondage stores. S&M stores. Goreans. Furries ('cuz you KNOW we're all a bunch of yiffing sexfiends) Actually, come to think of it, you should be calling for the banning of 90% of what goes on in SL. Yeah, I don't want to see it, personally, but it IS their kink, they're not hurting anyone with it, they're not offending anyone with it (other than the OP, who had to sneak around and spy on them in order to see). If you're so worried about kids getting on SL, call for banning everything, not just the stuff you find gross. Otherwise, you're just a hypocrite.
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Mickey McLuhan
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08-07-2006 07:20
From: Kendra Bancroft Though I detest the term "drag queen", I can assure you that if you met me on the street all you would see is a middle-aged jewish woman with a cute tush.
...That is, of course, unless I hiked up my skirt, showed you my 2 inches of man-meat and started shaking my ass while asking "Who's yer daddy?".
I've never been more aroused in my life.
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Maeve Morgan
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08-07-2006 09:22
From: Kendra Bancroft You seem the sort that walks around with a notebook and records these sightings in case the authorities will later require the information.
Though I detest the term "drag queen", I can assure you that if you met me on the street all you would see is a middle-aged jewish woman with a cute tush.
...That is, of course, unless I hiked up my skirt, showed you my 2 inches of man-meat and started shaking my ass while asking "Who's yer daddy?".
Age play is not about pedophilia --it's about the excitement of adults acting out as children. Nobody is under the belief that they are with children any more than Furries think they are yiffing kittens. You owe me a new keyboard, and snorting diet Dr Pepper through your nose will definitly wake one up in the morning. |
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Darkfoxx Bunyip
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08-07-2006 09:36
Sorry, couldn't help but notice someone comparing ageplay with racism.
WTF?
How do you match the two togeter: one is two adults, imagining a imaginary situation in an imaginary world, to have some fun together. (Please note the ' IMAGINARY' here)
The other is a usual unreasonable hate towards a certain group of fellow human beings, just because THEY ARE DIFFERENTLY COLOURED. " They take our jobs!" Duh, cause YOU don't want to do them.
(And on the 'white racist' part... Racism comes from all ethnicies, not just us white folk, and I am 100% sure that LL is just as intolerant to other coloured racists group as they are to the white ones.)
So please explain to me how you come to the conclusion the two are alike...?
On the point of legality, it is not concidered child porn if there are no underaged persons involved, therefore if both players in forementioned case are adults, it is perfectly legal. So, LL isn't at risk of getting the FBI after them for this.
The only (IMHO valid) reasons I have seen here about the subject in this and other threads, the only real understandable and counting reason, is out of personal preference. Fine, so if you encounter something you do not want to see, simply TELEPORT OUT. It's what I do.
The OP in the situation he/she described here was the only one at fault, as the scene took place in private, and he shouldn't have been there in the first place.
We all of course have the right to our opinions and bitch and moan about every single little aspect of this glorified MSN Messenger program just as I have the right to give my opinion about yours, but don't forget that we all also have the right to do whatever we please in here.
So if I would one day decide to make my AV some ten years 'younger' and do a little pretend horizontal mambo in the privacy of my own pretend home, that is my full right. And NO-ONE has the right to tell me how to live my second life. The right to bitch about it, sure... go on and bitch about it all you want.
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Kal Pixie
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How I see age-play or any kind of play in sl
08-07-2006 13:33
First we all know that only adults are allowed to get in sl. That is enforced by Linden. As about whether the enforcement is effective or foolproof, that's apparently a separate issue and not the main subject in this thread so let me leave it out here.
With the premise above, let's look at the computer gaming. I see at least over 50% of games are about doing things that you will never do in real life. You hurt people physically, kill people in the cruelest way you can imagine (or can never imagine). You play evil character and harm, torture, kill innocent people. You raid cities, eliminate, enslave people afterwards. You conquer nations and completely destroy other civilizations.
To me killing many people in the cruelest way is much worse than child pedophile. Systematically destroy a society, a nation, a race, a species makes pedophile like a shoplifting comparing to the world trade center bombing. All those behaviors are much pathological than pedophile but most people may not be as sensitive to those horrific human acts than sexual offense or even, in this case, consensual sexual acts. But you know what? These are just computer games. It's all ok. People can murder each other online and no FBIs will knock on their doors.
The baggiest human disasters were caused by close mindedness throughout human history. Galileo was condemned by the church because he spoke against common belief. People were burned alive when being charged as practicing witchcraft. I believe most people will agree on the concept that a person is innocent until proven guilty. And I also believe that most people don't agree on a "minority report" like society that people can be judged by their mind. Those ADULT age-play sl users playing in sl is not guiltier than those people playing on-line murdering/torturing/genociding others consensually.
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Mina Firefly
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08-07-2006 13:54
Really...
Any people who get aroused from seeing a child av having sex with an adult av is just totaly sick... (not to mention that that person has pedophil thoughts)
I don't care if it's roleplay...in that case it's SICK roleplay.
And I even think people should get banned for it too...because it's online pedophilia.
It's pedophilia roleplay from both sides...aswell as the adult male as the person playing the child av and having sex with it.
And anyone who approves this will no longer be welcome at my shop...because I DO NOT approve any kind of pedophilia.
Weither it's real , online or just roleplay.
People who do these kinds of things or think online pedophelia is ok...those people should find some psychological help for their mental issues....because that way of thinking isn't healthy.
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Juro Kothari
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08-07-2006 14:12
From: Wrom Morrison Sadly, the internet is a haven for sick pedophiles.
Nothing you or I can do about this, because they hide behind the mask of anonymity and private corporations who have no morals.
To Philip, do you seriously want to encourage this type of behavior in your world?
Incase you forgot, these folks are ROLEPLAYING. Maybe not the type you or I would partake in, but its fundamentally no different than other types of roleplay. |
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Jesse Malthus
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08-07-2006 14:14
From: Mina Firefly Really...
Any people who get aroused from seeing a child av having sex with an adult av is just totaly sick... (not to mention that that person has pedophil thoughts)
I don't care if it's roleplay...in that case it's SICK roleplay.
And I even think people should get banned for it too...because it's online pedophilia.
It's pedophilia roleplay from both sides...aswell as the adult male as the person playing the child av and having sex with it.
And anyone who approves this will no longer be welcome at my shop...because I DO NOT approve any kind of pedophilia.
Weither it's real , online or just roleplay.
People who do these kinds of things or think online pedophelia is ok...those people should find some psychological help for their mental issues....because that way of thinking isn't healthy. Again, no children are harmed, thus no pedophilia. And if you took the time to read the thread, we've been advocating for help for those who are really pedophiles. This thread is beating a dead horse, can we get a mod-lock here?
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Lorelei Patel
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08-07-2006 14:33
From: Mina Firefly Any people who get aroused from seeing a child av having sex with an adult av is just totaly sick... (not to mention that that person has pedophil thoughts) Even *if* that were true, do you propose to say that having a disagreeable thought is a crime? Thinking pedophilic thoughts are grounds for dismissal? And how do you go about policing those thoughts, exactly? While we're at it, I hope you never have a criminal thought in your mind. Ever had a bad day at work and wish you could strangle your boss? Oops! You're guilty of murder, apparently. Myself, I could care less what someone thinks. I could care less if you or anyone else thinks dislikes people for being gay or black or female or Jewish or Muslim or whatever. Don't care what you think about them. But if you act on those thoughts, thats when there's a problem. From: someone I don't care if it's roleplay...in that case it's SICK roleplay. I wouldn't go with pejorative terms like "sick," but it is unusual and controversial. But then, SL is at no shortage for depictions of controversial activities. What makes this any different? From: someone And I even think people should get banned for it too...because it's online pedophilia. Really? Which children are harmed and how so? Heck, I'd even give you $100L if you could prove to me that pixels are harmed. From: someone And anyone who approves this will no longer be welcome at my shop...because I DO NOT approve any kind of pedophilia. Some loss there. I don't even like tattoos. I think they're unnatural.  From: someone People who do these kinds of things or think online pedophelia is ok...those people should find some psychological help for their mental issues....because that way of thinking isn't healthy. I don't think online child porn is OK, not by a long shot. But that's not what this is.
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Selador Cellardoor
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08-07-2006 14:47
From: Lorelei Patel Wow, assume much?
I won't make any guarantees, but I seriously wonder if those complaining the loudest might not, erm...
Let's just put it this way. You know what people often say about those that complain the loudest about homosexuality? Wonder if anything like that holds true here, too. I have thought that for a long time, Lorelei. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-07-2006 15:02
From: Selador Cellardoor I have thought that for a long time, Lorelei. Succinct as always, Daddy. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-07-2006 15:04
From: Mina Firefly Really...
Any people who get aroused from seeing a child av having sex with an adult av is just totaly sick... (not to mention that that person has pedophil thoughts)
I don't care if it's roleplay...in that case it's SICK roleplay.
And I even think people should get banned for it too...because it's online pedophilia.
It's pedophilia roleplay from both sides...aswell as the adult male as the person playing the child av and having sex with it.
And anyone who approves this will no longer be welcome at my shop...because I DO NOT approve any kind of pedophilia.
Weither it's real , online or just roleplay.
People who do these kinds of things or think online pedophelia is ok...those people should find some psychological help for their mental issues....because that way of thinking isn't healthy. I'm not an age-player --but do let me know where your shop is so that I can not shop there. I don't tend to give my money to people like you. |
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Jake Reitveld
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08-07-2006 15:11
Having skipped most of the same-old same-old, I note one thing: the op watched this sex act happen and manipulated the camera for a better view. Pedophile?
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Puck Goodliffe
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08-07-2006 15:13
From: Lorelei Pate
I don't think online child porn is OK, not by a long shot. But that's not what this is.
Nonsense. Won't someone please think of the pixelated, RL adult children?! Next thing you know, people will be showing PORN in SL.
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Puck Goodliffe
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08-07-2006 15:20
From: Jake Reitveld Having skipped most of the same-old same-old, I note one thing: the op watched this sex act happen and manipulated the camera for a better view. Pedophile? Great point. This person was swinging the camera around and is shocked to see something offensive. Perhaps it has to do with me not being dumb, but I tend to figure I won't see hawt avisecks when I am out and about if I am not looking and listening for such things.
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Showdog Tiger
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Parents
08-07-2006 15:41
Dearly Darlings,
I'd like to know, if these are child avatars (really adults doing some roleplaying) Where are their avatar parents? They should be punished for allowing their avi children to participate in this. It there are no parents they should become wards of Linden Labs in an orphans' home where they can't have avi sex with adult avatars. We can put them in a school setting and teach them to become good citizens when they grow up.
We just need to make sure that Pixies, Fairies, Elves and other more diminutive avatars are not hauled off to the orphanage.
If they are RL childern they need to be banned from the main grid and Social Services needs to be contacted in their state or country.
Ever Yours,
Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Jesse Malthus
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08-07-2006 15:44
From: Showdog Tiger Dearly Darlings,
I'd like to know, if these are child avatars (really adults doing some roleplaying) Where are their avatar parents? They should be punished for allowing their avi children to participate in this. It there are no parents they should become wards of Linden Labs in an orphans' home where they can't have avi sex with adult avatars. We can put them in a school setting and teach them to become good citizens when they grow up.
We just need to make sure that Pixies, Fairies, Elves and other more diminutive avatars are not hauled off to the orphanage.
If they are RL childern they need to be banned from the main grid and Social Services needs to be contacted in their state or country.
Ever Yours,
Mrs. Showdog Tiger Oh man, I had to wipe Pepsi off my monitor after that one.... XD
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Allana Dion
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08-07-2006 15:45
From: Jake Reitveld I note one thing: the op watched this sex act happen and manipulated the camera for a better view. And unless I missed it, hasn't bothered to come back to the thread he/she started to comment. |
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Puck Goodliffe
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08-07-2006 15:47
From: Showdog Tiger Dearly Darlings,
I'd like to know, if these are child avatars (really adults doing some roleplaying) Where are their avatar parents? They should be punished for allowing their avi children to participate in this. It there are no parents they should become wards of Linden Labs in an orphans' home where they can't have avi sex with adult avatars. We can put them in a school setting and teach them to become good citizens when they grow up.
We just need to make sure that Pixies, Fairies, Elves and other more diminutive avatars are not hauled off to the orphanage.
If they are RL childern they need to be banned from the main grid and Social Services needs to be contacted in their state or country.
Ever Yours,
Mrs. Showdog Tiger If you're replicating real life high school, though, there appears to be plenty of student/teacher sex going on as of late. Orphanages will be just as bad, except that they'll learn of "unnatural relations." As a proper 19th century gentleman, I must demand that all such children be sent to a factory for 16 hours a day - it will keep them occupied and too exhausted for sex and, more importantly, their work will only benefit society, while orphanages and public education drains society of its monetary resources.
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Showdog Tiger
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Sorry Jesse
08-07-2006 15:48
Dearly Darling Jesse,
I did not mean for anyone to spit out drinks by their computer...I hope you did not ruin your key board.
Ever Yours,
Mrs Showdog Tiger
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Jesse Malthus
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08-07-2006 15:51
From: Showdog Tiger Dearly Darling Jesse,
I did not mean for anyone to spit out drinks by their computer...I hope you did not ruin your key board.
Ever Yours,
Mrs Showdog Tiger Not a problem, no harm done. ((Eeek, going offtopic! <insert inflamatory remarks here> )
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08-07-2006 15:51
From: Mina Firefly Really...
Any people who get aroused from seeing a child av having sex with an adult av is just totaly sick... (not to mention that that person has pedophil thoughts)
I don't care if it's roleplay...in that case it's SICK roleplay.
And I even think people should get banned for it too...because it's online pedophilia.
It's pedophilia roleplay from both sides...aswell as the adult male as the person playing the child av and having sex with it.
And anyone who approves this will no longer be welcome at my shop...because I DO NOT approve any kind of pedophilia.
Weither it's real , online or just roleplay.
People who do these kinds of things or think online pedophelia is ok...those people should find some psychological help for their mental issues....because that way of thinking isn't healthy. Your inability to seperate reality from an internet world shows that you may be potentially crazy and therefore dangerous to society. You are not welcome on my land, nor in my RL home - GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP.
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Jesse Malthus
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08-07-2006 15:53
From: Taco Rubio Your inability to seperate reality from an internet world shows that you may be potentially crazy and therefore dangerous to society. You are not welcome on my land, nor in my RL home - GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP. Agreed.
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