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Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???

Ameshin Yossarian
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08-05-2006 20:42
Some adults look like children in real life... I don't know.. maybe it was maybe it wasn't.. its not right for sure. Not real young children.. but hey its second life and like so many other people have said just RP..
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08-05-2006 21:07
From: Wrom Morrison
Sadly, the internet is a haven for sick pedophiles.

Nothing you or I can do about this, because they hide behind the mask of anonymity and private corporations who have no morals.

To Philip, do you seriously want to encourage this type of behavior in your world?

Sadly the internet is a haven for sick murders and assassins.

There are way more people who play first shooter games than age play games. Do you consider people who play shooter games inside SL or outside SL murderers?

It is just as stupid to conside online age players paedophiles as it is to consider people who play violent computer/video games Murderers.

Gimme a break.
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08-05-2006 23:28
Usagi,

That wrinkly green and warty troll skin /really/ does not go with that gorgeous Japanese hair, you know.
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08-05-2006 23:41
When SL people have sex, in rl is the person behind the screen masturbating?
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08-05-2006 23:42
From: Damien Skolem
When SL people have sex, in rl is the person behind the screen masturbating?


Not necessarily.
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08-05-2006 23:56
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Not necessarily.


Not always yes but how do we know that?

Roleplay or not, the people roleplaying this way must have these fantasies in real life.

You previously stated to have been a victim of molestation which strikes me odd that you can't for a moment even understand where the thread originator is coming from. If I were molested, I would be sickened and feel offended.

Racism in real life is not illegal but here in second life, it's bannable as if it were illegal. In real life child pornography is illegal and having sex with child avatars is a form of producing those type of images. All of you hissing about the height, it's not just about the height! It's how the avie dresses, carries a teddy bear, wears diapers...yes one would be accurate in saying child avatar.


I'd say that it takes a certain type to roleplay like that. No normal person would even agree to that or somebody who in real life doesn't already want to have sex with children would agree to roleplay like that. Would you ageplay if you were sickened by it in real life?

I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive. It's even more offensive to those who have dealt with being molested as a child and get to play this game and have it ruined for them because of people who defend those types of people and who turn it into some lifestyle that is just "roleplay", it menas nothing and it's not offensive at all.

Even if the height level was fixed, people would still wear diapers but would look like giant babies. I'm questioning all of you now that are numb to ageplay and feel that it's appropriate.
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08-06-2006 00:16
From: Damien Skolem
Not always yes but how do we know that?

Roleplay or not, the people roleplaying this way must have these fantasies in real life.

You previously stated to have been a victim of molestation which strikes me odd that you can't for a moment even understand where the thread originator is coming from. If I were molested, I would be sickened and feel offended.

Racism in real life is not illegal but here in second life, it's bannable as if it were illegal. In real life child pornography is illegal and having sex with child avatars is a form of producing those type of images. All of you hissing about the height, it's not just about the height! It's how the avie dresses, carries a teddy bear, wears diapers...yes one would be accurate in saying child avatar.


I'd say that it takes a certain type to roleplay like that. No normal person would even agree to that or somebody who in real life doesn't already want to have sex with children would agree to roleplay like that. Would you ageplay if you were sickened by it in real life?

I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive. It's even more offensive to those who have dealt with being molested as a child and get to play this game and have it ruined for them because of people who defend those types of people and who turn it into some lifestyle that is just "roleplay", it menas nothing and it's not offensive at all.

Even if the height level was fixed, people would still wear diapers but would look like giant babies. I'm questioning all of you now that are numb to ageplay and feel that it's appropriate.

You know, this whole thread really isn't about ageplay. It's about freedom. It's our world, our imagination, even if said imagination is twisted.
I think someone else said it earlier: "If thyne eyes offend thee, pluck them out"
Turn away, look away, yell at the ageplayers.
The point is: Deal. Ageplay is not racism, it's not even close. Ageplay is 2 adults, concenting, no one else directly hurt.
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08-06-2006 00:27
From: Damien Skolem
Not always yes but how do we know that?

Roleplay or not, the people roleplaying this way must have these fantasies in real life.

You previously stated to have been a victim of molestation which strikes me odd that you can't for a moment even understand where the thread originator is coming from. If I were molested, I would be sickened and feel offended.

Racism in real life is not illegal but here in second life, it's bannable as if it were illegal. In real life child pornography is illegal and having sex with child avatars is a form of producing those type of images. All of you hissing about the height, it's not just about the height! It's how the avie dresses, carries a teddy bear, wears diapers...yes one would be accurate in saying child avatar.


I'd say that it takes a certain type to roleplay like that. No normal person would even agree to that or somebody who in real life doesn't already want to have sex with children would agree to roleplay like that. Would you ageplay if you were sickened by it in real life?

I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive. It's even more offensive to those who have dealt with being molested as a child and get to play this game and have it ruined for them because of people who defend those types of people and who turn it into some lifestyle that is just "roleplay", it menas nothing and it's not offensive at all.

Even if the height level was fixed, people would still wear diapers but would look like giant babies. I'm questioning all of you now that are numb to ageplay and feel that it's appropriate.


It's not that I am numb to it; it's not that I cannot understand where the poster is coming from.

I've known RL ageplayers. They're all of age (many older than me, in their thirties and forties) and I haven't met one yet who has shown ANY interest in children sexually.

In SL, I haven't met a SINGLE ageplayer who did it in public; of course, I'm fairly picky about where I hang out. (This isn't people in child avatars - I don't automatically think they're into the sexual aspect of ageplay.)

There's a significant difference between wanting to fuck a child and exploring the particular mindset of a child when it comes to sexual things.

Do furries want to fuck animals? The ones I have met don't. Do Goreans want to lay about with swords and enslave all the women? The ones I have met don't.

There's a significant difference between roleplaying adults and children, but it's pissing into the wind to suggest that you look away.

*gives up*

Good luck on your crusade. I'm sure it helps actual kids.
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08-06-2006 00:28
From: Damien Skolem
Not always yes but how do we know that?

Roleplay or not, the people roleplaying this way must have these fantasies in real life.
Fantasy = not real, in the mind, not prosecutable.

From: someone
If I were molested, I would be sickened and feel offended.
That's you. Not everyone has the same reactions to things.

From: someone
I'd say that it takes a certain type to roleplay like that. No normal person would even agree to that or somebody who in real life doesn't already want to have sex with children would agree to roleplay like that. Would you ageplay if you were sickened by it in real life?
Normal is relative. Many women have rape fantasies. Other women are sickened by the thought. If two people engage in a rape scenerio roleplay does that mean that one of them is secretly a real rapist? Or that the other one really does want to raped?

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I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive. It's even more offensive to those who have dealt with being molested as a child and get to play this game and have it ruined for them because of people who defend those types of people and who turn it into some lifestyle that is just "roleplay", it menas nothing and it's not offensive at all.
Once again, there are no actual children involved, no real victims to a crime. All participants are consenting adults. Personally I don't want to see it either and well ..surprise surprise.. I haven't. If something bothers you, you avoid it.

I have a neighbor in RL who likes to walk around in his backyard in his jockeys. This bothers me as it is really not a pretty sight. My solution.... close my blinds. If he and his wife liked to run around the yard in diapers and get busy amongst the tulips while she called him Daddy, well my solution would be the same.

If however I saw that he was doing something to an actual child, I would be calling the cops. You see the difference?
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08-06-2006 00:53
From: Jesse Malthus
You know, this whole thread really isn't about ageplay. It's about freedom. It's our world, our imagination, even if said imagination is twisted.
I think someone else said it earlier: "If thyne eyes offend thee, pluck them out"
Turn away, look away, yell at the ageplayers.
The point is: Deal. Ageplay is not racism, it's not even close. Ageplay is 2 adults, concenting, no one else directly hurt.


Ageplay is not racism however racism is not tolerated at all and doesn't that go against the same freedom you discuss? What if someone was just roleplaying being a racist but wasn't really? It doesn't matter...banned. If someone wears racist symbols, banned. If someone has a racist name, banned. It's not tolerated at all but you argue that its your world and imagination.

Now to Phae, you actually "KNOW" these people in real life do you?

Fantasies are in the head. Performing them on an avatar is still performing an action which is a form of stimulation is it not? Children being used as sex objects in a game that is highly graphical could be used as pornography to the ones roleplaying in real life and yes it is disturbing that so many on here defend it.

Let's say you had a lover and you found child porn on his or her computer, how would you react? Would you question it? Would you wonder why that person specifically sought out child porn? Oh it must be different, it's just a fantasy afterall.

Images don't influence people at all...wrong! Images are the most influential sense that people cling to.

I'm not sorry for being concerned at all. In real life they are two consenting adults (although teens play in the main grid alot mroe than you think) but they are producing pornographic pixelated imagery of abusing a child sexually so those adults can have a good wank and know that they are protected by everyone that defends them so vehemtly in SL.. It's a safe haven for pedos.
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08-06-2006 01:02
From: Damien Skolem
Ageplay is not racism however racism is not tolerated at all and doesn't that go against the same freedom you discuss? What if someone was just roleplaying being a racist but wasn't really? It doesn't matter...banned. If someone wears racist symbols, banned. If someone has a racist name, banned. It's not tolerated at all but you argue that its your world and imagination.

Now to Phae, you actually "KNOW" these people in real life do you?

Fantasies are in the head. Performing them on an avatar is still performing an action which is a form of stimulation is it not? Children being used as sex objects in a game that is highly graphical could be used as pornography to the ones roleplaying in real life and yes it is disturbing that so many on here defend it.

Let's say you had a lover and you found child porn on his or her computer, how would you react? Would you question it? Would you wonder why that person specifically sought out child porn? Oh it must be different, it's just a fantasy afterall.

Images don't influence people at all...wrong! Images are the most influential sense that people cling to.

I'm not sorry for being concerned at all. In real life they are two consenting adults (although teens play in the main grid alot mroe than you think) but they are producing pornographic pixelated imagery of abusing a child sexually so those adults can have a good wank and know that they are protected by everyone that defends them so vehemtly in SL.. It's a safe haven for pedos.


I threw one man out of my house because I found child pornography on our computer, called the police and had him arrested. The two are not comparable because you STILL have the goddamned adult on the other side of the screen.

I'm not the one who isn't bothering to listen.
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08-06-2006 01:19
From: Damien Skolem
Roleplay or not, the people roleplaying this way must have these fantasies in real life.


Not necessarily. Some may just be curious. Some may wonder what all the fuss is about after reading diatribes like the ones here.

From: someone
You previously stated to have been a victim of molestation which strikes me odd that you can't for a moment even understand where the thread originator is coming from. If I were molested, I would be sickened and feel offended.


Understandable that you might feel offended. However, do you think that everything that offends you should be banned? What if what offends someone else is something you like. Would you be willing to have it banned, too?

From: someone
No normal person would even agree to that or somebody who in real life doesn't already want to have sex with children would agree to roleplay like that. Would you ageplay if you were sickened by it in real life?


Whoa! Who made you the arbiter of "normal"? I missed that memo.

But just to give a real-life example, I know someone who does ageplay in real life. He likes to dress up in frilly dresses, wear a diaper, and what happens after that I don't know. I don't like it personally. I'd never want to be involved with it. But you know what... SO WHAT?

It makes him happy. It hurts no one.

He's not on SL, but if he were to come here and get himself a girl avatar and find a partner interested in the same thing... then what? You show me where the harm is.

From: someone
I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive.


Yeah, well that would be the true test of tolerance, wouldn't it. It's pretty damn easy to tolerate things you like.
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08-06-2006 01:22
From: Phedre Aquitaine
I threw one man out of my house because I found child pornography on our computer, called the police and had him arrested.


Now those are the actions of someone who truly is acting in the best interest of children.

Damien, if you're as concerned about the safety of children as you say, I hope you regularly spend time volunteering for children in need. Do you? Or is it just all tilting at pixelized windmills?
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08-06-2006 01:41
From: Phedre Aquitaine
I threw one man out of my house because I found child pornography on our computer, called the police and had him arrested. The two are not comparable because you STILL have the goddamned adult on the other side of the screen.

I'm not the one who isn't bothering to listen.


How do you really know it's an adult on the other side?
You dont.

Second, why would they choose a child to have sex with if in reality they weren't turned on by that? Wouldn't you wonder if they too posess child porn?
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08-06-2006 01:42
From: Lorelei Patel
Now those are the actions of someone who truly is acting in the best interest of children.

Damien, if you're as concerned about the safety of children as you say, I hope you regularly spend time volunteering for children in need. Do you? Or is it just all tilting at pixelized windmills?


If you were asking that question minus the sneery undertone, I might answer.
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08-06-2006 01:49
From: Damien Skolem
How do you really know it's an adult on the other side?
You dont.

Second, why would they choose a child to have sex with if in reality they weren't turned on by that? Wouldn't you wonder if they too posess child porn?


*sigh*

I think it was already discussed that it was HIGHLY unlikely for most teenagers to use teenager or child avatars. How do you know that the "adult" avatar you're talking to is really adult? You don't.

Secondly - and how do I put this? - do RL ageplayers have childforms? The mental mechanism, I imagine, would be the same - they're exploring their memories of childhood, dealing with issues, and enjoying being playful and silly and innocent. They don't do it all the time.

And frankly, no. I wouldn't. After a certain point I cannot worry about things not under my control. I would hope that no one did, no matter what they do.

Now, are you going to make me hash out stuff that's been covered in the ten plus pages before this one anymore, or can we get on with things?
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08-06-2006 01:49
From: Damien Skolem
If you were asking that question minus the sneery undertone, I might answer.


You haven't been exactly a paragon of manners and gentility yourself. Don't push it.
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Arsenic Soyinka
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08-06-2006 02:01
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ive been thinking ...

and im trying to figure this out ...

when i was as young as 10, i had what i would call
"ADULT-LIKE" sexual fantasies, some of which,
i "acted out" as "OLDER-AGE-PLAY with other kids

now was that also 'sick age-play' then,
as defined in this thread,
and was i sick then, but in reverse? ...

now that i am an adult ...
i think back on those earlier experiences ...
and when i do, i am not only reminded by
how much fun and exciting they were,
i also "re-experience" them in my memory ...

in other words in my memory i fantasize about them,
as if i were "reliving" them

does that also make me a sick person?

not that i am inclinded to ...
but, would it further make me sick,
if now i "re-enacted" my sexual childhood experiences
with someone else?


i am also thinking ...

would, or is "re-enacting" a childhood sexual experience
with another adult on SL ...
1. more sick
2. not as sick
3. less sick ...
4. or just as sick ...

as if 2 people were simply discussing their childhood
sexual experineces together in a "normal" converesational format?

in other words, is "ACTING OUT" childhood sexual experiences,
real or fantasized, as an ageplay, make it worse,
than merely DISCUSSING an "AGEPLAY", be it about sex,
or any other childhood experience, that one might normally
talk about with a friend?

or is it only sick to this person, simply because one of the
participants appeared to be younger and the other one older?

what about rape fantasies, mother and son fantasies,
father and daughter fantasies, or even lesbian and gay-play?

should those be outlawed and banned too?

stemcell research, and genetics? ...
might as well ban the humanoids on SL too?

and just so there isnt complete bias on this topic,
lets not forget to ban anubis sex too on SL ...
especially human-anubis sexual interaction

if they are to be banned, then one might as well ban
any and all fantasies about Jesus and the Tribulation.

the raising of the dead? ... dont leave out the Vampyres.

i better stop calling one of my friends "mom" in open chat too



and with all this talk about ageplay, manga,
cartoon and 3D graphics of what appear to be
the young engaged in sex, of the law and Al Gore,
what about all those SL-griefers, who go around on SL
shooting, bombing and killing everything in sight?

it appears to me, there are more open incidences
of attacks on SL members by girefer-bombings,
girefer-cagings, and griefer-shootouts and killings,
than there are of age-players, doing their thing in private,
in order to avoid griefing others.


so, to those who are against ageplay on SL,
is bombing-play, caging-play and killing-play
and their possible effects on and in Real Life
more acceptable, or just as unacceptable to them?



maybe ive been just thinking too much




*´¨`·.¸¸.*Arsenic


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08-06-2006 02:04
Personally having no interest in ageplay myself, I know very little about the actual practice. I see clearly though that neither do most people in the thread, both those voicing disgust and those saying "each to their own". So I thought maybe it would be good to get the view from the inside. I searched ageplay (carefully and with my filter turned on :p ) and found something written by an actual ageplayer.

http://www.leathernroses.com/generalbdsm/missyageplay.htm (if you decide you want to read the whole site..I admit I didn't read all of it, but I did not see any pictures on the front page the link goes to, it was safe)

From: The above link
The Biggest Age Play Myth:

It is that ageplay involves real children and/or ageplayers have latent pedophilia tendencies.

This fallacy is completely untrue. Pedophilia is when an adult prefers choosing an ACTUAL child for a sexual partner. Certainly, as in all communities, be them the BDSM, the local church, school, police, government, etc part of communities, there likely is a percentage of ageplayers that are pedophiles.

To deny that would be complete silliness, however, ageplayers are usually strong and out spoken advocates against child abuse of any form not just sexual but mental and emotional abuse too. There is absolutely no tolerance for pedophiles in the ageplay community as in a similar vain there is no tolerance for abuse in the BDSM community.
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08-06-2006 05:04
From: Allana Dion
It's pretty much a given that anyone under 18 isn't going to be running around in a child AV. Pay attention please it's been said over and over again. If you see a child AV in SL it will be an adult in RL. The underage people are too busy pretending to be adults.


So, the child in a sexual ageplay is most certainly played by an adult... but what about the adult AV ? It could be an underage player ! :eek: *mind explose*
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08-06-2006 05:30
"Sadly, the internet is a haven for sick pedophiles."

There is nothing wrong at all with paedophiles. It's children being molested that is the problem. And if paedophiles are not molesting children, you have no reason to bother them.

As long as children (or any people of any kind) aren't being harmed, paedophiles can live out whatever fantasies they like, just like anybody else.

"I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive."

Tolerance is the basis of a civil society. Now, there are plenty of people out there who are offended by the idea of healthy, active people spending endless hours entertaining themselves indoors with electronics whilst the sun shines and birds sing and bikes, kites, beaches, footballs, tennis, picnics and the like exist out there. You think there's nothing wrong with your electronic entertainment: it makes you happy, and it's not harming anyone else. But they don't understand how you can possibly enjoy it, and think your desire is wrong. So perhaps they'll take it away from you, and tell you that you must entertain yourself some other way.

Or, perhaps they should do what any sensible people should: REMEMBER THAT THE LAW IS THERE TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HARMING OTHER PEOPLE, NOT TO PRESCRIBE AND ENFORCE CERTAIN "ACCEPTABLE" WAYS OF LIVING.

I like meat, but I don't like harming animals, so I eat soya. I like running around shooting things, but I know killing people is wrong, so I play Counterstrike. I like the idea of extreme torture, but know I couldn't handle it in reality, so I roleplay it in fantasy. Paedophiles like young children, but most don't like harming young children (or have it made clear to them that society won't stand for children being harmed), so they do the same: they keep it a fantasy, which harms nobody.

And those who don't are the same as those who play GTA and then go and shoot someone: they are rare, the exception to the rule, and taking GTA or paedophilic fantasies away from them won't change anything, just as taking away every form of technology, entertainment or communication won't stop people being shitty to eachother.

Musuko.
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08-06-2006 05:32
From: Kendra Bancroft
I'm going to make a child AV of myself. Are there any interested Catholic Priest AVs who wish to play "confession" with me?


Won't work unless you change to a male avatar too....

<walks off whistling tunlessly>
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08-06-2006 05:39
Usagi the fact is its implied that they are over 18 and they are lying if they are in SL and are not over 18. If they are age playing then on top of it or having sex in SL that is their fault and they lied. The other side of the party should not be penalized because they thought it was a consenting adult. As such its age play. In SL you can be a little kid instead of dressing up as one but its tant amount to the same thing. Its just fantasy role playing is why people are tolerlant of it. Mabye 1% of the people that partake in age play are doing this stuff in real life. But to penalize the entire community for something in a game is just off.

Any number of escorts and dancers and what not in SL could be under aged in r/l should all the clubs or places with these be shut down because of that. Its up to two consenting adults in SL to choose how they do things and its their business not yours nor mine to poke into their lives. If you dont like it simply dont partake in that enviroment in SL plain and simple. Dont try to force LL to change the way 2 adults choose to lead their second life be it sexual or otherwise.

And yeah Issarlk that is possible, but its assumed that its 2 adults and if the underage person is even in SL they lied about their age to start with.
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08-06-2006 05:49
From: Musuko Massiel
"Sadly, the internet is a haven for sick pedophiles."

There is nothing wrong at all with paedophiles. It's children being molested that is the problem. And if paedophiles are not molesting children, you have no reason to bother them.

As long as children (or any people of any kind) aren't being harmed, paedophiles can live out whatever fantasies they like, just like anybody else.

"I can't believe how many people are tolerant towards this behavior when it's offensive."

Tolerance is the basis of a civil society. Now, there are plenty of people out there who are offended by the idea of healthy, active people spending endless hours entertaining themselves indoors with electronics whilst the sun shines and birds sing and bikes, kites, beaches, footballs, tennis, picnics and the like exist out there. You think there's nothing wrong with your electronic entertainment: it makes you happy, and it's not harming anyone else. But they don't understand how you can possibly enjoy it, and think your desire is wrong. So perhaps they'll take it away from you, and tell you that you must entertain yourself some other way.

Or, perhaps they should do what any sensible people should: REMEMBER THAT THE LAW IS THERE TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HARMING OTHER PEOPLE, NOT TO PRESCRIBE AND ENFORCE CERTAIN "ACCEPTABLE" WAYS OF LIVING.

I like meat, but I don't like harming animals, so I eat soya. I like running around shooting things, but I know killing people is wrong, so I play Counterstrike. I like the idea of extreme torture, but know I couldn't handle it in reality, so I roleplay it in fantasy. Paedophiles like young children, but most don't like harming young children (or have it made clear to them that society won't stand for children being harmed), so they do the same: they keep it a fantasy, which harms nobody.

And those who don't are the same as those who play GTA and then go and shoot someone: they are rare, the exception to the rule, and taking GTA or paedophilic fantasies away from them won't change anything, just as taking away every form of technology, entertainment or communication won't stop people being shitty to eachother.

Musuko.


Very true Musuko. The thing with GTA is so true. The fact is if someone plays GTA and goes out and shoots someone something is wrong with that person. I play gta i play games where people die all the time but i dont go out and kill people. Its a hyped up play by the FCC to totally shelter our lives. Anyone see the episode of family guy where they started to censor the lives of the griffins? The people going out and shooting people from playing a game need help. Its not the game doing it its caused by problems the person has mentally. Its parents that simply dont want to place blame on their child because it makes them look bad so they blame the media. Video games, TV, music and other things for corrupting the children. Sadly as long as people dont accept who is truly at fault the censoring is just going to get worse and we are going to end up with so many more problems because of it.
Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
08-06-2006 06:01
Wow. I just start a thread about people's inability to get along in SL, and here is a large flaming pile of proof dumped right in the middle of General Topics!

Just... Wow...

We arn't even talking about ageplayer's vs. the 'think of the children' quads, either. We're talking about the 'it's not illegal, so it's not stoppable' vs. the 'OMG! EXECUTE THEM FOR BEING PERVY' quads...

It's absofrigging amazing.

Let me point out something to both sides:

The basic truth here is this: It's not illegal. It can't be prosicuted. It can only be persicuted. If any of you think it's all right to persicute people for things that arn't illegal, I'm sure a lot of people will love to follow the lines you set down and do the same to you for whatever transgressions the can find.

Trust me. To someone else, you are just as guilty of something as the people you think are guilty. It's a given.

As to ageplay. I've played a child before. Role played it, actually. Sick huh?

I'm a game-master for several RPGs and writer of fiction. Get over it. Period.

As to child/avatar sex? Well, aye. it's kind of 'off' to me. I also can be sure that I would rather them playing it in SL than in RL. Can I be sure that they won't move on to something more real? Nope. I can't even be sure they would be capable of something like that. I played dozens of shooter games, and I have never attacked ANYONE with a shotgun in RL.

Mind you, I have considered shooting people. Daily. Usually when I take a tech support call.

Mostly shooting myself, to make it stop. :D

Annnyway. everyone can rant and rave, but the points are made, the facts are bare, and neither of you are convincing anyone from either side.

Phedre Aquitaine, I tip a hat to you and invite you over to my thread at /108/14/127289/1.html

And if you want to continue the fight, please upgrade from words to sticks, rocks, and spears. I want to see blood if this is supposed to be entertaining....
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