Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???

I have three children, as I pointed out in the post you apparently read.

Perhaps that's why I can tell the difference between adults and children.

LL grow some balls and do something about age play in Sl .....it very sick and want to vomit anytime I see anything to do with it!

*facepalm*

Look away?

I am getting to repspect your views Usagi. Let me give you some stats. Worldwide the percentage of child abusers in any one nation seems to be similiar with any other nation. In other words all countries seem to have XX% of child abusers with a small percentage difference. Japan is probably about average despite manga whatever that is.

In the bigger scheme of things Second Life has nothing to do with it.

OH ZING!

The problem is, there is a Class of people who think any act of Physical affection between any description of Partner in any situation (public or private) OR any mention or intimation of same is a Perversion. So,, Having said that, when you get a group of adults together Who's Model of Normalcy should they be Coerced into adopting?

"Normal" is an Illusion. An Unattainable ideal simply because it seeks to Define a "One size fits all" model of appearance, belief, behaviour, what-have-you. that will Never be practicle because as long as there are two or more people in existance there will be two or more Differing points of View on what constitutes "Normal".
We can establish with Ease Some generalities that are Almost (But not completely) universal, so they Can be defended as Normal but the Finer we try to Draw the Net, the Harder "Normal" becomes to define.

At one time in the United States (Most states of it at least) Any sexual position other than Missionary between Married Male and Female was defined Under Law as a deviant act and was Punishable by Imprisonment. try to Imagine that in Todays Context. and remember the broad powers of Investigation and Enforcement that the state once helt to make these laws a reality.
Thankfully, we don't live in that world anymore.
We have already established that age play is neither Illegal under U.S. Law Nor in Violation of SL's TOS So, the Only arguement you have left to present is your own Point of View. Not sufficient to establish a "Zero Tolerance" Policy. Sorry, the support just isn't there.

We are all taking part in an on line world Populated by Adults where anything and everything is possible. You are going to see a LOT of things you never have before. Some of them you will be comfortable with, some you will not. You just have to learn that Your definition of right, or Normal Isn't the only one.

I'll end with three quotes, Two Biblical, One Shakespearean:

From Hamlet:
" There are more things in heaven and Earth Horatio, than are dreampt of in your Philosiphy.

and from the Bible: (sorry, i don't Remember Chapter and Verse)

"What went ye into the wilderness to see? A man clothed in fine reiment?"

and

"If thine eyes offend thee, Pluck them out."

Angel.

Well, I have had VERY short AV's before and have been mistaken as a child many times.

But to my knowledge, The 2 games (teen version and adult version) donot cross. Teenagers are kept to the Teen version and adults to the adult version. So, basically, these 2 AV's must have been adults.

I have no idea, I suppose we'll find out then. I will admit that as far as what is considered indistinguishable enough to qualify as illegal and what isn't I am clueless. These are frankly images I am too uncomfortable with to research in any depth. All I can verify through searching the laws is that the images that show in a medium like Second Life do not apparently qualify as "indistinguishable" enough to be illegal.

Bottom line.. everyone in SL is supposed to be an adult, the visual images are not illegal... that pretty much ends the debate right there.

Frankly (and I've said this before) in all the time I've been in SL I have never even once been witness to this particular issue. I really seriously doubt most of the people who are objecting so strongly have either. If you are seeing it often enough to upset you, you'd pretty much have to be out there looking for it. The ageplayers themselves (the few of them that actually are sexual) aren't exactly making it a public display.

Even the OP (unless I missed it) still hasn't explained what he was doing poking around on these people's private property anyway. Had he not been he never would have seen a thing.

*sigh*

Okay, One:
Ageplay in itself is just acting as if you were a younger or older person, and has NOTHING to do with sex. Not every child AV is interrested in sex poseballs.


Two: sexual ageplay has NOTHING to do with RL pediphilia. It will not lead to it, just as GTA won't lead to hooker killings to rise. It is two ADULTS roleplaying, and as a matter of fact, most, if not ALL ageplayers are very VERY much against any form of child abuse.

Start a new browser tab or window, and look up ageplay in Wikipedia. Do a little research bvefore you condemn, as a lot of people who DON'T do any research are usually the biggerst bigots when it somes to outlawing things, like furries having sex, or ohmygosh, two men going at it! Come on, please look it up, try and understand what drives ageplayers to ageplay.

Three: quote of a previous post by me on this subject that keeps popping up in new threads:

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Near voilatons are not the same thing as violations. "Innocent untill proven guilty..."

I hope that LL realises this, and will not suspend people on the fact that they're acting and looking like children, while the person behind the PC is adult. And in fact, I don't believe they'll want to, as it will mean they will lose a lot of paying customers.

But my problem is not with Linden labs, but with all the people who scream for banning of said adults who only pretend to be children, for whatever reasons they may have: they simply don't have the right to decide which fantasies anyone wants to act out on SL... Wether it be ageplay or anything else that's seen as socially unacceptible by some people.

Would *any* judge in the US convict any adult for having pretend sex with another consenting adult, pretending to be an underage person?

I think the real legal issues are not the problem here, but more all of the ageplay haters personal preferences...

They cry out for the Lindens to not allow it, simply because *they* see it as wrong.
it as only wrong in theory, just as it's wrong in theory if an avatar shoots another avatar with a virtual gun...
Cause in both cases, it would mean jailtime for you if you did it in real life, but this is not real life.
No real children are molested and scarred for life from SL ageplay, nor does anyone die in real life from SL shootings... it's all pretend. No actual RL laws are broken. There's no photographs of RL children in sexual situations, there's no video footage of RL children being molested. There's only computer generated imagery of child *looking* avatars... all the unlawful stuff is purely in the minds of those involved in ageplay.

SL is all about doing the things you cannot, or would not do in RL. Let's keep it that way...

My point, simply put is this:

If you feel that ageplay is wrong because it is wrong to rape children in RL, why aren't you also crying out to stop shooting at AV's in SL, Vore in SL, zoophilia in SL, enslaving people in SL, dropping nukes in SL, public sex in SL, derpicting adult imagery in public in SL, medical experimentation on humans in SL, suffication/stragulation in SL, autopsy's by unqualified personell in SL, Snuff in SL, Piracy (the "Arr, Matey!" kind yes..) in SL, belonging to a criminal organistation in SL, speeding in SL (and running people over), flying below 50 ft in SL, raping adult AV's in SL, trespassing in SL, and all those other things that will definately get you jailed in RL by the US legal system? Or even, oh my Gosh, GIVING A BJ on sl? (AS THAT'S ALSO ILLEGAL in some US states... even in the state that produces the most porn in the whole country!)

The answer is simple: cause you *personally*, don't see any problems with that.

Why, let's go ahead and make Second Life just as pioliced and regulated as RL in the US. Sure a LOT of people will want to play a game, that is no different from RL in what you can and cannot do.

Great idea...

(End Quote)

Now, that we have had this thread, which ' problem' will be adressed next *again*? Furries? Goreans? Vore?


I should make a list... *checks of ageplay's DEAD HORSE*

HEHHEHE someone used the word "NORMAL on sl well ehhe have you seen the game resently

I have no problem with child av's, most i know are non sexual here in SL, some have maybe a relationship with other child av's, but i think if i ever saw an escort as a child av, it would probably really bother me. Hopefully if anyone is roleplaying pedifilia here, maybe it keeps them from acting it out in R/L who knows...

But to me its not a good thing to promote in any format, anyone thats ever been affected by a pedifile, knows this is just really bad and personally i can not condone it. Nor am i being asked to, lord knows i dont make the rules here. But if both are consenting adults, i cant see it being much worse than dressing up in a sexy school girl outfit..whatever blows yer skirt up, i guess...

Well fact still is Sl is a outlet for such sick minds that remark still stands with me.

its also apparently an outlet for people who have been verbally thrashed and don't know when to shut the hell up already.

Of course that's not allowed. Now, if it were a child boy AV having tinysex with an adult female AV, that would be a different matter all-together.

I'm going to make a child AV of myself. Are there any interested Catholic Priest AVs who wish to play "confession" with me?

Do you know your Hail Mary?

Word.

It's an old, old topic. No one will be happy with any outcome.

I can understand a visceral reaction to this. You're not alone with it, and include me amongst those who dun like it.

Essentially, when you start deciding what is appropriate in people's own spaces on here, it starts a long slide. After age play then Goreans, then bdsm, then... what? Where does it end? Only when it is infringes on your particular interests?

Better idea? Stay out of people's bedrooms. It's what I do.

Mari

Hmm... imagine if you customized your avatar by editing its genetic sequence and hitting a fast-forward button to see how it grows up. This is highly impractical with current technology, and has nothing to do with ageplay, but there have been so many threads on this topic I don't feel bad posting off topic at 2am.



For sale: ACATGGCTCAATGAC.

Do you do custom work? I have kind of a thing for ACATGGCTTAATGAC. I'll IM you in-world.

This is boring. Can we have another cannibalism thread? I got in the last one kind of late and I don't think enough people saw my 'Vorean' comment for it to catch on. We've done ageplay and gor to death...cannibalism is a fettish we haven't kicked around nearly enough. It was really refreshing to have a new group to hate!

I'm jewish. That's what makes it so dirty.

You filthy filthy little girl.