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Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???

Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 19:57
This subject really is a laugh its the same people think MANGA children sexual iages are not sex..........But in Janpan they are view as and are graded as such. The Japanese goverment has stepped in and stopped practices that was causing a social sickness those that did or did not undersand the possible soical inpact of tese images. The western worls still in the most part love japanese manga sex. It really gives the japanese population to the the wrong impression of this good country.
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08-03-2006 19:59
From: Usagi Musashi
This subject really is a laugh its the same people think MANGA children sexual iages are not sex..........But in Janpan they are view as and are graded as such. The Japanese goverment has stepped in and stopped practices that was causing a social sickness those that did or did not undersand the possible soical inpact of tese images. The western worls still in the most part love japanese manga sex. It really gives the japanese population to the the wrong impression of this good country.

This is the Western world. We want the freedom to look at our smut, damn it!
USA! USA! FREEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!
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08-03-2006 19:59
Predictions:

This thread would end with the following scenarios:

1. A new thread about a prim baby and death of such baby at the hands of the baby makers pushing this thread from front page.

2. New Gorean auction of Furries being paraded around the forum by animal rights activists.

3. New thread about how the FIC have no power.

4. FIC's stroking each other at some convention and given each other prizes.

5. Some thread about how there are more bugs in every release vs new features.

6. Some thread about kids on SL.

7. Yet another open letter to Lindens explaining how they are not doing things right, more demands by people playing the game for free.

8. A thread by a newbie asking in general if you are crashing (responses in positive) resounding sucessful thread.

9. Some thread about stolen textures, goods etc and scamming.

10. A complaining about being banned on the forum, which is promptly locked, and a new thread reopned, which results in 10 more people being banned and the cycle happens again.


THIS WILL NOT END WELL!
Aodhan McDunnough
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08-03-2006 20:04
@Alana, Tess and Sunspot

Would this mean that currently SL ageplay won't be classified as child pornography but the next generation of computer graphics will because of the near-photorealism?
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08-03-2006 20:04
From: Usagi Musashi
This subject really is a laugh its the same people think MANGA children sexual iages are not sex..........But in Janpan they are view as and are graded as such. The Japanese goverment has stepped in and stopped practices that was causing a social sickness those that did or did not undersand the possible soical inpact of tese images. The western worls still in the most part love japanese manga sex. It really gives the japanese population to the the wrong impression of this good country.


The internet causes deviant behavior? I am so happy that before Al Gore invented it we had no such behavior.

What do we do now?
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Lorelei Patel
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08-03-2006 20:05
From: Richie Waves
Consenting SICKO'S more like, anyone who finds the thought of having sex with a child is fucked in the head. RP or not thats what they are fantasizing about. good luck defending it folks.


There are a bejillion forms of "fucked in the head" playing around in SL. Get rid of them all and SL will only approximately 0 players left.

Just for reference, what kind of "fucked in the head" are you? I'm asking, because if you're ever successful in your campaign, I'd hope the next crusade is against something you enjoy.
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Bizarre Berry
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08-03-2006 20:07
From: Sunspot Pixie
In 2003, child pornography includes not only images of real children, but also computer images that are indistinguishable from real children engaging in sexually explicit conduct. "Indistinguishable" is defined such that an "ordinary person" viewing the image would conclude that it is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct.

The following images are not child pornography: drawings, cartoons, sculptures or paintings depicting minors or adults. Images of actual adults that look like minors are also excluded.


I stand corrected, and gladly so. I thought the laws were getting quite draconian myself. As much as I am revolted by such things, I don't believe we should play thought police.

Nonetheless, I stand by my statement that people who engage in such things are stupid, if nothing else. It may not be long before such things are illegal, and in a game like SL, where nothing is truly private, you never know when some crazy vigilantes, like those Christian crusaders on TV who are always entrapping men, might come along and trace your IP address and hunt you down in RL.
Tess Whitcroft
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08-03-2006 20:09
From: Aodhan McDunnough
@Tess and Sunspot

Would this mean that currently SL ageplay won't be classified as child pornography but the next generation of computer graphics will because of the near-photorealism?


Uh, Well, yes I suppose it does. I guess that's what progress is all about or something else that makes as much sense. Someone better warn those Xbox 360 folks.

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08-03-2006 20:12
From: Susie Boffin
The internet causes deviant behavior? I am so happy that before Al Gore invented it we had no such behavior.

What do we do now?


You know I am not american hence I can`t understand Al Gore remarks. I not going to sit here and say the internet does not causes problems. It he users that do.....Not the form of images themselves. Its so much double talkin and such. But LLabs seems to have put a cover its eyes and put the sole responcibity spelling) on the users of sl people themselves.
Phedre Aquitaine
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08-03-2006 20:13
Do you people even f*cking listen to yourselves?

I have three kids and I am fairly certain I would kill anyone who touched them. I was molested (repeatedly) as a child and as a teenager. I was raped. That being said...

I'm not worried about ageplayers.

And you know why?

Because at the end of a scene, the vast majority of age players have a smoke and discuss politics and here's the kicker - they sound just like adults.

You know why?

BECAUSE THEY BLOODY WELL ARE.

Seriously, save all this self-righteous wrath for the ACTUAL paedo- and ephebophiles, or the people who employ teenagers as escorts.

This horse done been beat to death already. I am more worried about teenagers coming in and getting themselves fucked up when they meet someone in real life than two adults doing a little roleplaying in the bleeding bedroom.

Two or more adults can do quite a bit in the bedroom (and bathroom and on the kitchen table) that I would find disturbing but I don't care, because it neither breaks my arm nor picks my pocket.

What the hell are you going to do? Run around with a ruler and AR every short av out there? Picket stores that sell schoolgirl outfits? Orbit? Hack?

Maybe you guys should learn to turn away from that which disturbs you but harms no one. Or maybe familiarise yourselves with where the little X button is. You know. The one that closes SL.

Embrace real life and all the rich diversity therein.

It's a concept, isn't it?
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Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:16
From: Usagi Musashi
You know I am not american hence I can`t understand Al Gore remarks. I not going to sit here and say the internet does not causes problems. It he users that do.....Not the form of images themselves. ( thats no pardon for thos that provide such sickness on sl ) Its so much double talkin and such. But LLabs seems to have put a cover its eyes and put the sole responcibity spelling) on the users of sl people themselves.

Role Playingis what SL is about inthe most part. But some clubs LLAbs really needs to step in a monitor such sickness, A healthy way to vent sexual pervertion well.........if your a sound minded and socially responiable ( spelling person to sart with its ok ) but those that i have been involved with on sl I say those people really should not even be in such places becaue in their rl they really don`t know the diff betwen roleplay and rl :(
Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:18
To the poster above and their limited impession of giving us a impact on this talk is cheap :rolleyes:
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08-03-2006 20:18
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Do you people even f*cking listen to yourselves?

I have three kids and I am fairly certain I would kill anyone who touched them. I was molested (repeatedly) as a child and as a teenager. I was raped. That being said...

I'm not worried about ageplayers.

And you know why?

Because at the end of a scene, the vast majority of age players have a smoke and discuss politics and here's the kicker - they sound just like adults.

You know why?

BECAUSE THEY BLOODY WELL ARE.

Seriously, save all this self-righteous wrath for the ACTUAL paedo- and ephebophiles, or the people who employ teenagers as escorts.

This horse done been beat to death already. I am more worried about teenagers coming in and getting themselves fucked up when they meet someone in real life than two adults doing a little roleplaying in the bleeding bedroom.

Two or more adults can do quite a bit in the bedroom (and bathroom and on the kitchen table) that I would find disturbing but I don't care, because it neither breaks my arm nor picks my pocket.

What the hell are you going to do? Run around with a ruler and AR every short av out there? Picket stores that sell schoolgirl outfits? Orbit? Hack?

Maybe you guys should learn to turn away from that which disturbs you but harms no one. Or maybe familiarise yourselves with where the little X button is. You know. The one that closes SL.

Embrace real life and all the rich diversity therein.

It's a concept, isn't it?



and this, is why i ADORE you Phe!
Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:19
Role Playingis what SL is about inthe most part. But some clubs LLAbs really needs to step in a monitor such sickness, A healthy way to vent sexual pervertion well.........if your a sound minded and socially responiable ( spelling person to sart with its ok ) but those that i have been involved with on sl I say those people really should not even be in such places becaue in their rl they really don`t know the diff betwen roleplay and rl :(
Phedre Aquitaine
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08-03-2006 20:21
From: Usagi Musashi
Role Playingis what SL is about inthe most part. But some clubs LLAbs really needs to step in a monitor such sickness, A healthy way to vent sexual pervertion well.........if your a sound minded and socially responiable ( spelling person to sart with its ok ) but those that i have been involved with on sl I say those people really should not even be in such places becaue in their rl they really don`t know the diff betwen roleplay and rl :(


The only inability to detect the difference between roleplaying and real life I've seen in this thread and others like it is on the part of those who decry ageplayers.
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08-03-2006 20:31
From: Phedre Aquitaine
The only inability to detect the difference between roleplaying and real life I've seen in this thread and others like it is on the part of those who decry ageplayers.


Where is the info????????? Again its DNA...
Phedre Aquitaine
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08-03-2006 20:33
From: Usagi Musashi
Where is the info????????? Again its DNA...


Can you please point out the connection between genetics and ageplay?

Mind you, ageplay SPECIFICALLY...

Not pedophilia...

Not ebebophilia...

Not child molestation...

AGEPLAY.

I'll wait.

*does nails.*
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Sunspot Pixie
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08-03-2006 20:36
From: Usagi Musashi
Where is the info????????? Again its DNA...

Don't worry, once avatars become so realistic that you cannot tell whether or not they are real (I doubt we will see this in SL), you will get your way.

Until then, you get to carry on like a single-minded battering ram. Enjoy.
Susie Boffin
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08-03-2006 20:39
From: Usagi Musashi
You know I am not american hence I can`t understand Al Gore remarks. I not going to sit here and say the internet does not causes problems. It he users that do.....Not the form of images themselves. Its so much double talkin and such. But LLabs seems to have put a cover its eyes and put the sole responcibity spelling) on the users of sl people themselves.


I didn't realize you weren't an English speaker so let me try to explain what makes a child abuser. There are certain factors that take place at an early age, usually before the age of 4, that predisposes a person to be attracted to an underage child. It really has nothing to do with what they see on the internet or in Second Life. It is part of their personality and is considered to be a personality disorder. Viewing images on Second Life or anywhere else on the internet doesn't cause an otherwise normal adult to suddenly become a child abuser.

If you want to know more about the etiology of child abuse please IM me inworld.
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Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:40
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Can you please point out the connection between genetics and ageplay.

WHAT WHERE.........Oh Boy your way off target on this I never said this. Geshhhhhhhhhhhh people never stay on the issue they always change it.......forget it...Some people just like to be stir problems....... :rolleyes:

As i said before talk is cheap and feryone well remark to anything just to look for a problem. :rolleyes:
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Phedre Aquitaine
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08-03-2006 20:45
From: Usagi Musashi
WHAT WHERE.........Oh Boy your way off target on this I never said this. Geshhhhhhhhhhhh people never stay on the issue they always change it.......forget it...Some people just like to be stir problems....... :rolleyes:

As i said before talk is cheap and feryone well remark to anything just to look for a problem. :rolleyes:



From: Usagi Musashi
Where is the info????????? Again its DNA...


Oops.

Perhaps it's a language barrier.
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Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:46
From: Susie Boffin
It is part of their personality and is considered to be a personality disorder. Viewing images on Second Life or anywhere else on the internet doesn't cause an otherwise normal adult to suddenly become a child abuser.

Well child abusers are world wide and in Japan we have a very large problem with such people. Manga is so large out here because males inthe most part are so out of touch with women here. So i do understand your point susie. Personilty disorder isa big big problem n Japan hence Japanese govement rating on child manga publications and images ( DVD CD, etc )........... Nice post susie:)
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08-03-2006 20:49
Perhaps people ought to educate themselves on the law, psychology, abnormal psych, and the basis of roleplay and the theory behind what is and is not child pornography and is and is not considered an illness.

But that is, perhaps, asking too much.

Hint: Everyone here saying "sick" and "sickness" needs to go see a psych themselves and discuss why they feel qualified to produce medical and legal opinions without training about what is inherently a legal issue.
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08-03-2006 20:50
From: Finning Widget
Perhaps people ought to educate themselves on the law, psychology, abnormal psych, and the basis of roleplay and the theory behind what is and is not child pornography and is and is not considered an illness.

But that is, perhaps, asking too much.

Hint: Everyone here saying "sick" and "sickness" needs to go see a psych themselves and discuss why they feel qualified to produce medical and legal opinions without training about what is inherently a legal issue.

Me thinks it's a form of projection, but then I only had one psych class, so I'll stop there.
Usagi Musashi
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08-03-2006 20:53
hehehhehe
I just hope to those that take light of this issue you don`t have children and or you don`t have to deal with such issues in your rl......Too mnay people these days take life as its goign to be there as always..Wellto those that live life as its always going to be there and problem wil not happen to you......Well. I wish you safe safe life.
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