Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???
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Melissa MacKay
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08-06-2006 11:30
From: Phedre Aquitaine I'm afraid I'm grumpy and she got the brunt of it.
I apologise for my tone, Melissa, but I really do think that reading the thread would have stood you in better stead. Well I am sorry I didn't read it. I'm frustrated that I do not have time to read all of it. I'm kind of off and on the computer here. And the subject is kind of hard for me to sit and read when I do find a moment. So I lashed out before. Sorry about that everyone.
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Tomas Gandini
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08-06-2006 12:31
*shakes head* The same old, same old. Get some self-righteous do-gooder who doesn't have a life and have any thing better to do and you get "OMG, I've got to save the world from perdition." Who next human AVs and furries?
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Melissa MacKay
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08-06-2006 12:41
From: Tomas Gandini *shakes head* The same old, same old. Get some self-righteous do-gooder who doesn't have a life and have any thing better to do and you get "OMG, I've got to save the world from perdition." Who next human AVs and furries? lol what?
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Margaret Mfume
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08-06-2006 12:51
<---wipes a tear as she sings kumbaya and gathers Foolish, Phedre, and Melissa around for a group hug  (Foolish, quit grabbing my butt, you perv!) From: Foolish Frost Ok. You can shush now. I'm not banging the drum of anti-intolorance at the moment.
And you're right. Culture shock should be allowed to adapt. I will try and keep that in mind as I'm beating the heresy out of non-believers.
<Pulls out the white-hot branding irons>
Well Now. What shall we discuss now... From: Phedre Aquitaine I'm afraid I'm grumpy and she got the brunt of it.
I apologise for my tone, Melissa, but I really do think that reading the thread would have stood you in better stead. From: Melissa MacKay Well I am sorry I didn't read it. I'm frustrated that I do not have time to read all of it. I'm kind of off and on the computer here. And the subject is kind of hard for me to sit and read when I do find a moment. So I lashed out before. Sorry about that everyone. As for the other last 2 posters...nevermind, I've got to stay focused on eliminating RL sewage rather than forum crap. 
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Foolish Frost
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08-06-2006 13:39
From: Margaret Mfume <---wipes a tear as she sings kumbaya and gathers Foolish, Phedre, and Melissa around for a group hug  (Foolish, quit grabbing my butt, you perv!) Awwww. It's so BIG though! And squeazibly soft! <squish> See? <runs for the far corner of the sim, and keeps going>
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Margaret Mfume
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08-06-2006 13:43
From: Foolish Frost Awwww. It's so BIG though! And squeazibly soft! <squish> See? <runs for the far corner of the sim, and keeps going> My butt is neither BIG nor soft.  You better run, mutha fucka, I have my plumbers snake handy and I know how to use it. 
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Foolish Frost
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08-06-2006 13:50
From: Margaret Mfume My butt is neither BIG nor soft.  You better run, mutha fucka, I have my plumbers snake handy and I know how to use it.  <barely heard from 3 sims over> "Squishy Butt"</barely heard from 3 sims over> <keeps running>
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Musuko Massiel
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08-06-2006 16:16
"Do you really? I consider myself a very profecient computer user, not an IE-baby. I still see ads for crap I don't want to see. Not as many as I would be otherwise, but they are developing new tricks by the day."
You could choose to turn your computer off. If you don't want to see the ads, you can choose not to see them, just as a person who doesn't want to die in a plane crash can choose not to fly.
If you choose to go onto the internet, you are choosing to risk seeing things you may not like, just as you do when you step out your front door.
Musuko.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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08-06-2006 16:33
From: Musuko Massiel "Do you really? I consider myself a very profecient computer user, not an IE-baby. I still see ads for crap I don't want to see. Not as many as I would be otherwise, but they are developing new tricks by the day."
You could choose to turn your computer off. If you don't want to see the ads, you can choose not to see them, just as a person who doesn't want to die in a plane crash can choose not to fly.
If you choose to go onto the internet, you are choosing to risk seeing things you may not like, just as you do when you step out your front door.
Musuko. Gratz. You *almost* got my point.
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Katrina Tandino
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08-06-2006 18:32
Here's a challenge for all....research your family histories, look back at your ancestors...100s of years ago...most girls were married by age 14, some younger. It is society today that deems it wrong...but hundreds of years ago, this was considered normal. So, in a sense, you're the offspring of offspring of offspring from 'pedophelia' sex, no? Oh, btw, my grandmother was 15, my grandfather 19 when they married...in the 1940s....
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Fmeh Tagore
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08-06-2006 19:49
I really don't like the idea of promoting the behaviors of pedophiles. I personally feel that people who do this sort of thing in SL probably are pedophiles in real life, and I hope that their acting out on these "fetishes" stays only in SL, I can only hope anyway.
I was molested as a kid by a pastor at a church for almost a year, and seeing anything that verges on pedophilia brings back those horrible memories. I'm thankful I haven't been anywhere yet in SL that this sort of thing has went on. I feel SL should be a free-for-all sort of thing, and I'll just be sure to stay away from places in SL that I see this kind of behavior happening.
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Jezebella Desmoulins
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08-06-2006 19:58
From: Fmeh Tagore I really don't like the idea of promoting the behaviors of pedophiles. I personally feel that people who do this sort of thing in SL probably are pedophiles in real life, and I hope that their acting out on these "fetishes" stays only in SL, I can only hope anyway. I personally feel that the moon is covered in jam. That doesn't make me correct, but that's what I believe.
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Margaret Mfume
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08-06-2006 20:32
From: Fmeh Tagore I was molested as a kid by a pastor at a church for almost a year, and seeing anything that verges on pedophilia brings back those horrible memories. I'm thankful I haven't been anywhere yet in SL that this sort of thing has went on. I feel SL should be a free-for-all sort of thing, and I'll just be sure to stay away from places in SL that I see this kind of behavior happening. I admire your ability to support the free spirit which is at the core of SL over what is understandably a difficult situation for you, Fmeh. 
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Roseann Flora
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08-06-2006 20:53
From: Fmeh Tagore I really don't like the idea of promoting the behaviors of pedophiles. I personally feel that people who do this sort of thing in SL probably are pedophiles in real life, and I hope that their acting out on these "fetishes" stays only in SL, I can only hope anyway.
I was molested as a kid by a pastor at a church for almost a year, and seeing anything that verges on pedophilia brings back those horrible memories. I'm thankful I haven't been anywhere yet in SL that this sort of thing has went on. I feel SL should be a free-for-all sort of thing, and I'll just be sure to stay away from places in SL that I see this kind of behavior happening. Thanks for posting Fmeh....I have been down that road as well and I totally agree with you on this and try to keep far away from anyone like this or any places like this. We are survivors and we can try to change it and if we don't we know we tried.
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Damien Skolem
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08-06-2006 23:00
From: Katrina Tandino Here's a challenge for all....research your family histories, look back at your ancestors...100s of years ago...most girls were married by age 14, some younger. It is society today that deems it wrong...but hundreds of years ago, this was considered normal. So, in a sense, you're the offspring of offspring of offspring from 'pedophelia' sex, no? Oh, btw, my grandmother was 15, my grandfather 19 when they married...in the 1940s.... Yet another person who tries to justify it. Once again I'll say this. PEOPLE GO THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR TO LEARN! Why in the fuck are so many people trying to justify and make it out to be no big deal? Has second life brainwashed you or did you believe this before? Let's see. Second Life does not tolerate racism, nothing of the like but they do tolerate something that is actually in rl illegal. All other porn sites have to have age verification, SL dropped it and SL has tons of porn...not just avatar porn either. What you are speaking of is the past. 100 years ago, do you think people were as aware of what we are now? We have these laws for a reason. We declared it wasn't right and it would be better to wait till the person's body and mentality were mature enough to make decisions on their own. Do you think women would also be better off living in the same ruling as of 100 years ago? Do you think they would want to be married off by age 15, have 7 kids by the age of 18, have no options of contraception, born and bred to be nothing more than just a baby making girl with a husband? Not only that, the physical risks of having all of those babies. Sexual ageplay in this game is different. Most of the time, it's someone who plays a child, an infant someone definetly under 13. You can justify all you want but SL, based out of San Francisco is really starting to make me wonder if the reason why they don't care to do anything about is because maybe they think there's nothing wrong with it. There is. They choose to ban only one offensive content and that is a white racist. Sexism is allowed, having sex with animals, kids and who gets banned? One group even though in rl it's not illegal to be a racist. It's only illegal if you kill and the motive was racism. All of you bitching about the thought police, there is a difference in saying and doing. If a person wears a nazi symbol, someone reports them, they are banned. Someone fucks a child avatar, they stay. Now you tell me freedom of expression again? That term can apply to everything and anything. The fact of the MATTER is this. If SL doesn't shape up now, I guarantee you very soon, this game is going to get the reputation of being a game that has alot of porn, beastiality art, pedophilia. If SL really cared about weeding out the kids and teens that are in this game, they wouldn't have promoted their game using MTV full of teen viewers and they would require age verification. Just because SL has dumbed down the process of signing up doesn't mean that their sales will boost because alot of teens have joined in what is supposed to be an adult game which IT IS. If SL thinks they are above all other games and have some high priority or special rights, they are wrong. I guarentee you that any of these people that engage in sexual roleplay with a child avatar and the other way around are using it for real life arousal and probably are obsessed with children in that manner so they probably have tons of child porn.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-06-2006 23:17
From: Damien Skolem I guarentee you that any of these people that engage in sexual roleplay with a child avatar and the other way around are using it for real life arousal and probably are obsessed with children in that manner so they probably have tons of child porn. Wow, assume much? I won't make any guarantees, but I seriously wonder if those complaining the loudest might not, erm... Let's just put it this way. You know what people often say about those that complain the loudest about homosexuality? Wonder if anything like that holds true here, too.
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Damien Skolem
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08-06-2006 23:26
From: Lorelei Patel Wow, assume much?
I won't make any guarantees, but I seriously wonder if those complaining the loudest might not, erm...
Let's just put it this way. You know what people often say about those that complain the loudest about homosexuality? Wonder if anything like that holds true here, too. First of all, I was speaking of the ones who just use SL to just use child avatars to have sex. What would you assume and don't even act as though you are above it. I can spot a gay guy in real life! I can spot a drag queen. I can spot a pregnant woman and spot someone who has had plastic surgery. Sorry if you can't but it's safe to assume if someone is always just using sl for that purpose, it's beyond a fantasy sista and if you can't see that then sorry.
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08-06-2006 23:30
*stabs thread* die you miserable bastard, die!
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Lorelei Patel
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08-06-2006 23:34
From: Damien Skolem First of all, I was speaking of the ones who just use SL to just use child avatars to have sex. What would you assume and don't even act as though you are above it. I can spot a gay guy in real life! I can spot a drag queen. I can spot a pregnant woman and spot someone who has had plastic surgery. Sorry if you can't but it's safe to assume if someone is always just using sl for that purpose, it's beyond a fantasy sista and if you can't see that then sorry. I'd love to know what's at the root of your vehemence.
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Damien Skolem
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08-06-2006 23:42
From: Lorelei Patel I'd love to know what's at the root of your vehemence. I'd love to know what is at the root of your acceptance of this behavior.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-07-2006 00:07
From: Damien Skolem I'd love to know what is at the root of your acceptance of this behavior. You mean my acceptance of two adults doing together as they wish? It's partly my ongoing attempt at being generally tolerant of others, and partly the realization that even if I happen to object, my point of view doesn't count for diddley squat to what other people want to do. If it were an adult and a child playing, I would feel differently. But it's not. They're adults.
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Damien Skolem
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08-07-2006 00:20
From: Lorelei Patel You mean my acceptance of two adults doing together as they wish?
It's partly my ongoing attempt at being generally tolerant of others, and partly the realization that even if I happen to object, my point of view doesn't count for diddley squat to what other people want to do.
If it were an adult and a child playing, I would feel differently. But it's not. They're adults. Adults in the real world, how can you conclude that even considering SL does not require age verification and the flood gates are open to all ages to attend the main grid? Other games (I've read articles) do consider ageplay in this manner as a form of virtual pedophelia. It's just another one of these "well since laws don't specifically target computer games from replicating pornographic imagery of children and adults having sex then it's okay" and technically it's true however all other forms of media painting that same imagery is illegal so shouldn't this too? Ever heard of babyfurs? Some ageplay in a way that isn't sexual while others go along with the sexual roleplay where their daddies are taking off their diapers to have sex with them. It is a form of pedophilia porn. That's like saying that pedophilia cartoon porns are somehow different because it's just drawings when it is the same type of imagery just pixelated. Anyone read the CNET article? Let me tell you, this is the beginning and CNET was nice about it but other medias won't be. http://news.com.com/Phony+kids,+virtual+sex/2100-1043_3-6060132.htmlI can't believe he goes on about freedom and anti-censorchip for all to be whatever they want but it's not entirely true because racists get banned and ageplayers that use it all the time for just sex with children do not.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-07-2006 00:26
From: Damien Skolem Adults in the real world, how can you conclude that even considering SL does not require age verification and the flood gates are open to all ages to attend the main grid? For a moment, pretend you are, say, 14 years old and you snuck onto the main grid. You know that if you're caught, you're busted and banned. What shape do you take to not call attention to yourself. Do you play the game as a kid looking for sex if you want to not stand out in the crowd? Do you really think there are children here playing as kid avatars and engaging in sexual play with adults? I bet you anything that the underage people here doing sexplay are doing so in adult avatars.
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Damien Skolem
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08-07-2006 00:27
From: Lorelei Patel For a moment, pretend you are, say, 14 years old and you snuck onto the main grid. You know that if you're caught, you're busted and banned. What shape do you take to not call attention to yourself. Do you play the game as a kid looking for sex if you want to not stand out in the crowd?
Do you really think there are children here playing as kid avatars and engaging in sexual play with adults?
I bet you anything that the underage people here doing sexplay are doing so in adult avatars. You are right in assuming that.
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-07-2006 00:45
From: Richie Waves ZERO tolerance AR and BAN. **edit** these sick monsters are going to at some stage catch the media attention, and when they do, they are going to RUIN OUR fun too.. by forcing LL to start using avatar restrictions to prevent this kind of crap. cartoon representations of child sex is illegal too. (AKAIK) And what would be next? Ban the Goreans because Slavery is sick too? Next inline would be the D/s? Furries? I know people who have problems accepting that as well. Keep in mind: 1. SL is an online ADULT game -> there should be no minors in the grid. If there really are, then that is an area in which LL can improve. 2. Those things mentioned are RP between Adults. Even if most would find it sick for Child-AV/Adult, there are other who'd consider the same for Furry-AV/Human-AV (bestiality anyone?); The question again: where would it end? 3. If you have a problem excepting 1 and 2, move on to another game without the freedom that SL gives. No sex/erotica, only human like forms, and definately no options for people to make their own things. -- Disclaimer: I would not accept these mentioned actions in First Life (or RL), but I DO know the difference between a virtual game and RP in comparison to that FL/RL.
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