Something to be Said about Gorean Life
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Coyote Momiji
Pintsized Plutonium
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
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08-23-2006 14:11
From: Vera Vernon Well as a Polish girl, I agree with you....claps hands.....but why is this topic going on and on....rape by it's nature in Rl is evil....pose balls and SL life are not. if I want to get fucked by 27 men at once, or they 'FORCE' me to in SL, then so be it...but I can also walk away in SL and have nothing to do with it, Which I do. There are far worse things in life than a group gang banged avatar. Thanks darlings....Vera .... Okay. I'm going to spend all day figuring out logistics now.
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mirhanda Tal
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Join date: 22 Aug 2006
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08-23-2006 14:11
From: Lupus Delacroix Please don't confuse Gor trash novels with literacy, the writing is piss poor, filled with the phrase "he said" and such. Any author that has to resort to literary devices such as that is obviously not capable of painting a mental picture deep enough to encapsulate/draw in the intended readers.
I pissed out better work in highschool than he does and he's supposedly works in the further education of youth. I think you are confusing the words "literacy" and "literature." Being able to read the Gor novels makes one literate. That does not make the Gor novels literature in any but the loosest sense.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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08-23-2006 14:12
From: Coyote Momiji *lifts a brow* Well, thank heavens that there's no such place as Gor in reality, eh? There is no such place in reality. The are however Gorean lifestylers who try pushing it on us as the "proper" way for all people to exist.
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Ssinss Iredell
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Join date: 12 Aug 2006
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08-23-2006 14:13
I have a few words to say on the sub... oh screw it, I do not have to justify myself or my choices to anyone but myself. I am my own judge and jury. If you do not like it, get out. If you like it, enjoy. If you do it IRL without concent... go to jail.
*Wanders off to read*
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Coyote Momiji
Pintsized Plutonium
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
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08-23-2006 14:13
From: Dmitri Polonsky Fine then you tell us how to keep them from inflicting thier beliefs outside Gor sims, up to an including troling and pushing thier NON- consentual beliefs in PG sims along with more than a few occurences of public nudity by the girls at he order of thier masters, while the would be master ( who is realy master of nothing, including his own cowardice) spouts about the "beauty" that is Gor and about honor that they don't seem to have at all. Personally I think Gor should be confined to it's own grid, and while goreans sh9ould be allowed in the main grid thier pushing of thier L/S should be a bannable offense, which technically it already is. If they're in a PG sim with the nudity, AR them. If they're on your land, freeze and boot them. If they're in public in a Mature area, /ignore them/. Seriously, I've seen more chest-puffing grandstanding out of you than I've seen from most of the Goreans I've run into in SL, and that's seriously saying something.
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Lorelei Patel
was here
Join date: 22 Feb 2004
Posts: 1,940
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08-23-2006 14:13
From: Marcuw Schnook Well, to defense of those who cannot write perfect English Grammer (spelling aside), you try yourself to write in a foreign language...
I feel sorry for those English speaking people who have been to lazy to try something like Dutch, German, Spanish or even more difficult languages like French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese..
Thinking in one language but writing down in another are 2 different things. Judging by someones ability to write "proper grammar" English is just being shortsightened. Oh Marcuw, it had nothing to do with you and everything to do with the Gorean practice of kajirae referring to themselves in the third person. I'd never ridicule someone for not mastering a second language, as I've never been able to do the same myself.
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Karsten Rutledge
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08-23-2006 14:13
Wow, deja vu.
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Coyote Momiji
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08-23-2006 14:14
From: Dmitri Polonsky There is no such place in reality. The are however Gorean lifestylers who try pushing it on us as the "proper" way for all people to exist. There are fundamentalist Christian dominionists who would like nothing better than for all of us to obey their particular religious and moral code. They worry me FAR more, thanks.
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Circe Timtam
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Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 158
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08-23-2006 14:15
From: Soh Ree ok this is where You are wrong. Soh Ree is girl she is third person, the player behind Soh Ree is a first person who would kick a man in his fuckn nuts for trying this shit.
Soh Ree is a slave to her Master. Period.
girl knows her place.
girl From: Coyote Momiji Oh, I /like/ you.
*grin* ditto 
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Aithne Thatcher
Proud Gorean Furry
Join date: 7 Mar 2006
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08-23-2006 14:15
From: Dmitri Polonsky You understand it entirely wrong then. In the gorean lifestyle women have no right to consent or refuse, except at the discrection of men. Somehow I don't think a belief in consent by gender at birth qualifies anymore than thier completely uninformed belief in a natural order which does NOT exist in nature. The women do have a choice, if they don't like it they can tp away or log off. And there are freewomen in gor that can do whatever they want. if one wishes to be a freewomen, they can be. not all females have to be slaves you know.. and did you know there are male slaves as well? and female Masters that are called Mistresses? like this one said, nobody can make you jump on a poseball.
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Soh Ree
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alright this rp turned personal
08-23-2006 14:16
From: Lost Newcomb Yeah, he can also throw you at 100 men to be raped against your wishes, roleplaying ofcourse.
He can also sell you anytime he likes, role playing ofcourse.
He can also drive a stake through you, and impale you, role playing ofcourse.
He can also scalp you and leave you for the sleen, role playing ofcourse.
You are cattle, he has every right to kill you anytime, role playing ofcourse.
But real woman who roleplay Gor and many other violent rp's often are depressed and end up doing pretty sad things RL. Like suicide, and.. worse. THIS is the point.... totally helpless is a BIG turn on for some women ... (gasps....feels faint...stumbles around...falls over of shock) it's true... deal with it, ignore it, hate it... it is what it is. There are some depressed people that should not rp, if your taking this stuff to seriously your one of them. Thanks for providing the example for class. In my REAL LIFE i am a doctor. Yes, i know...shocking that a strong, well rounded person of well being is a ...shhhhh....looks about...SLAVE in my second life. Being able to cut lose the controls of everyday life is FABULOUS...try it. ... you might like it... or not... who cares...WHY you ask....CAUSE ITS YOUR FANTASY, all others can bugger off....
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Allana Dion
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08-23-2006 14:16
From: Zephria Zapata You are a person ... Soh .,.. not a Third person ... You are Soh .... not this girl ....... Yes she is a person, with a right to do things her own way and not be judged for it. 
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Coyote Momiji
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08-23-2006 14:17
Dmitri, would you consider yourself a feminist (i.e. someone who thinks women should have the same choices and opportunities as men)?
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Lorelei Patel
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08-23-2006 14:17
From: Ssinss Iredell I have a few words to say on the sub... oh screw it, I do not have to justify myself or my choices to anyone but myself. I am my own judge and jury. If you do not like it, get out. If you like it, enjoy. If you do it IRL without concent... go to jail.
*Wanders off to read* Most sensible thing said here yet 
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-23-2006 14:17
From: Selene Gregoire OMG!!! Someone actually spelled the word consentual right!! *picks jaw up from floor* Oh wait... nevermind. You aren't Gorean.  Is it? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1881943127/104-3112416-3084768?v=glance&n=283155Guess they should fire the writer, the proofreaders and get a new spelling checker too...
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Selene Gregoire
Eyes of the Wolf
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
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08-23-2006 14:18
From: Selador Cellardoor I hate to break it to you, but they didn't. Hate to break it to you but they did. con‧sent /kənˈsɛnt/ Pronunciation Key]Pronunciation Key[/u] - Show Spelled Pronunciation]Show Spelled Pronunciation[/u] [kuh n-sent] Pronunciation Key]Pronunciation Key[/u] - Show IPA Pronunciation]Show IPA Pronunciation[/u] –verb (used without object) 1.to permit, approve, or agree; comply or yield (often fol. by to or an infinitive): He consented to the proposal. We asked her permission, and she consented. 2. Archaic. to agree in sentiment, opinion, etc.; be in harmony. –noun 3.permission, approval, or agreement; compliance; acquiescence: He gave his consent to the marriage. 4.agreement in sentiment, opinion, a course of action, etc.: By common consent he was appointed official delegate. 5. Archaic. accord; concord; harmony. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=consent Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source new! con‧sen‧tu‧al /kənˈsɛn tʃu əl/ Pronunciation Key]Pronunciation Key[/u] - Show Spelled Pronunciation]Show Spelled Pronunciation[/u] [kuh n-sen-choo-uh l] Pronunciation Key]Pronunciation Key[/u] - Show IPA Pronunciation]Show IPA Pronunciation[/u] –adjective Law. involving or carried out by mutual consent: a consentual divorce. It is NOT spelled with two s's.
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Aithne Thatcher
Proud Gorean Furry
Join date: 7 Mar 2006
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08-23-2006 14:20
From: Dmitri Polonsky Fine then you tell us how to keep them from inflicting thier beliefs outside Gor sims, up to an including troling and pushing thier NON- consentual beliefs in PG sims along with more than a few occurences of public nudity by the girls at he order of thier masters, while the would be master ( who is realy master of nothing, including his own cowardice) spouts about the "beauty" that is Gor and about honor that they don't seem to have at all. Personally I think Gor should be confined to it's own grid, and while goreans sh9ould be allowed in the main grid thier pushing of thier L/S should be a bannable offense, which technically it already is. not all goreans are like that, as this one has said a few times. people will do that even if they are not gorean, and if they have their slaves naked in a pg area they are stupid. this ones Master always makes sure that she is dressed correctaly in a pg area, and is even allowed to wear regular clothes if she wishes. there is nothing any of us can about stupid people exept ignore them... and what about people that are against furries and yell at us all the time? this one does not like them, but there is nothing she can do about that.
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Carline Ratelle
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Join date: 16 Aug 2006
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08-23-2006 14:20
From: Savonah Madonna Where did you get that it was done becuase he disagreed with me? Obviously you do what all too many people do which is not understand what is being said - or more correctly, only read what you want to read and respond ininformed. blah for you and your GORE way. if you think rape is ok your fucked up PERIOD. And RAPE by the it's very nature is UNconsentual! So get a clue. umm...which is why it is not rape? ~rolls eyes~ I am not gor, and quite frankly, I find speaking in the third person tiresome, as well as the use of A/all as reference. That being said, I do participate in the sub/dom/domme lifestyle both in sl and rl, and if research is done, it will be found that this lifestyle is based on one rule: safe, sane, and consensual. Now I cannot speak for everyone being sane, but I don't think anyone can argue, especially in sl, that everything is safe and consensual. Savonah, in a previous post, you suggested putting a gun in someone elses mouth and told them that it would be better off that way. Did you learn this from playing Grand Theft Auto? Or is this just a fantasy you harbor that you will one day act upon? Probably not, but that also goes for everyone acting out rape fantasies.
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Vera Vernon
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08-23-2006 14:21
From: Soh Ree NOT!
There are some depressed people that should not rp, if your taking this stuff to seriously your one of them. Thanks for providing the example for class.
In my REAL LIFE i am a doctor. Yes, i know...shocking that a strong, well rounded person of well being is a ...shhhhh....looks about...SLAVE in my second life. Being able to cut lose the controls of everyday life is FABULOUS...try it. ... you might like it... or not... who cares...WHY you ask....CAUSE ITS YOUR FANTASY, all others can bugger off.... LMAO...I'm an adult English teacher in real life and a hooker/dancer in SL. My choice. Go slaves, you'll get your freedom....or maybe not....but you have fab clothes. Now this thread is getting silly.....lmfao.....Vera
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Jesseaitui Petion
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08-23-2006 14:21
Rape IS wrong, but on sl girls actually have a choice...so technically they arent being raped, they could simple log off, not go to that sim, not be a part of it, etc
Ive read some pieces of a gorean book just to see what it all was, apparently the females enjoy what they do.
I personally think the whole thing is a lame powerhouse attempt, but whatev.
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Lorelei Patel
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08-23-2006 14:22
From: Selene Gregoire It is NOT spelled with two s's.
Dictionary.com lists seven entries under consensual, one under consentual. Technically, both are right, though consensual seems to be preferred.
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Aithne Thatcher
Proud Gorean Furry
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08-23-2006 14:23
From: Coyote Momiji If they're in a PG sim with the nudity, AR them.
If they're on your land, freeze and boot them.
If they're in public in a Mature area, /ignore them/.
Seriously, I've seen more chest-puffing grandstanding out of you than I've seen from most of the Goreans I've run into in SL, and that's seriously saying something. *laughs* this one agrees with you.
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Hiro Queso
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08-23-2006 14:24
Maybe it's a difference in spelling across the atlantic. Consentual maybe a word in american english, but it's not in english. http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/chref/chref.py/main?query=consensual&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-searchWhilst we are touching on this, it's colour , not color 
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Aithne Thatcher
Proud Gorean Furry
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08-23-2006 14:25
From: Vera Vernon LMAO...I'm an adult English teacher in real life and a hooker/dancer in SL. My choice. Go slaves, you'll get your freedom....or maybe not....but you have fab clothes.
Now this thread is getting silly.....lmfao.....Vera *giggles* this one is a fennec fox as well as a slave in sl, but she is far from that in RL.
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Carline Ratelle
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08-23-2006 14:25
From: Dmitri Polonsky There is no such place in reality. The are however Gorean lifestylers who try pushing it on us as the "proper" way for all people to exist. Just as their are religious nuts trying to push their lifestyle as the "proper way". Come on Dmitri, generalizing is a bad way to make an arguement.
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