Something to be Said about Gorean Life

You are a person ... Soh .,.. not a Third person ... You are Soh .... not this girl .......

Actually, you are an animal. So am I. It's a basic biological fact. Whether or not you desire a leash is up to you. *smiles*

Why is it wrong between consenting adults?

Literate ones perhaps?

The only thing i dont understand so far in this thread is how someone who works as a rape counsellor can have such atrocious spelling and grammar. (im only assuming English is the primary language though)

I also find myself working with rape victims quite often in my own line of work. and i think real rape (as in sexual acts forced on an unwilling victim) should carry life sentances.
I dont think rape in RL should be judged in the same light as roleplayed rape in SL.
'Rape' in SL is not unwilling victims, therefore is it really rape? in my opinion it is just simply roleplay, there is no real victim, its enjoyment for both parties, just living out fantasies.

People who are uncomfortable with it should stay away, problem solved.

For understanding ASK the roleplayers, ask the "supposedly to be" victims? Don't start ranting here and throwing all kinds of wild acusations.

That is called research. That is the way to gain knowledge, not by just random pointing fingers and calling names.

That one just illustrated the fact that John Normal couldn't write his way out of a 3rd grade book report. People that immitate his writing style? No comment.

Take loaded pistol, put barrrel in mouth, pull trigger.



there =) you'll feel a lot better, I promise =))

To further derail the thread: Some of the worse things you can do in counseling is confusing empathy and compassion. Your job is first and foremost to understand your patients desperation and to help them finding a way out of it, not to let their outrage become your own and go on a rampage.

As many posters above wrote, the roleplay in gorean sims is consensual and for most people no danger. And comparing it to physical rape shows,in my opinon, a lack of understanding of the actual dynamics, and some might argue a bit of disrespect to the trauma you can encounter in rl-situations.

There are however a few additional points that could be brought up.

1) Like so many things in life roleplay is a social learning experience, as long as you can relate the rp-experience to your real life. In this sense excessively playing a slave can change your self-image, and receiving gratification for being a good slave can be nearly as effective as love-bombing in some religious fringe groups. But keep in mind we are - outside the teen-grid - all adults here, and as much as i hate to break it to you, i consider adults to be responsible for their state of mind.

2) Submission has a great attraction. Giving yourself over completely to someone can be felt subjectively as an act of love, and giving up a greater part of your responsibility for a time can be a relieve. You can even extend this to a lifestyle, and with a good partner you can be happy with this. Here too i maintain that this is your decision, and as long as you do not hurt yourself or others with it, i have to respect it and have no right to declare you a victim or try to force you out of it, just because you chose a lifestyle, or even a temporary relief that makes you happier.

3) Rape fantasies are common, as was mentioned above. Regardless of the fact that they have not much to do with rl-rape, and that you will hardly be 'forcefully taken' by your dream-partner just when you are in the mood for it in rl, with all the adrenalin rush (did you ever notice how similar physiological symptoms of being scared and being aroused can be?), SL is a great tool to live out your fantasies in a safe environment. Here i would suggest that you leave this possiblity to the people who can profit from it.

Is that how you achieved your turn of logic?

'Splains much.

/bow
/agree
/tiphat
/respect

And that is coming from a Dom in the D/s lifestyle.

You are one very sick puppy Savonah.

ok this is where You are wrong. Soh Ree is girl she is third person, the player behind Soh Ree is a first person who would kick a man in his fuckn nuts for trying this shit.

Soh Ree is a slave to her Master. Period.



girl knows her place.

girl

Well, John Norman was far from a good writer, but to be fair all that third person stuff is just an "IRCism" from back in the day. It is a very rare thing in the books. It's a common online expression, but it's not taken seriously by most people.

Oh, I /like/ you.

*grin*

and you missed the point totally.
she responded to this as her roleplay identity from her experiences as a gorean slavegirl/beast.

she might or might not be having the same mindset in reallife. And even if she did and she's happy with it, why should she change? For you? Come on.

Can't vote on any of those while I agree with you on the views or rape.. Those bastards should be castrated and their wieners flayed. In SL you can't rape it's all consensual so you need to add something along those lines.

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I don't consider rape possible in SL since it is and can only be consensual and can not be non consensual.
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Edit:
Stupid spelling mistakes.

Maybe not you, and maybe not your friends, but I assure you, it's nothing new. Check out Nancy Friday's "My Secret Garden," which came out in 1973, is about women's sexual fantasies. It sure existed then.

I think I just found the center of the universe.

I wish the CotU could spell better, tho'.

I must make a comment on this. I am a gorean female, and a furry one at that. My Master does no such things in the game, nor do the other Masters or Mistress we know. While I must admit, I have seen a few bad ones in gorean cities, I have seen plenty of bad ones outside of the gorean places as well. So don't blame it on gor, it will happen even if they are not gorean if they want to do so.

As compared to the OP, that girl wrote with less spelling mistakes and she "isn't supposed to be lettered/educated" as opposed to the OP (a counselor which even wasnt spelled right)

So... No comment either.

Or as some kids would see: pwnd.

She is whatever she chooses to be...

I think the point was missed.

It requires effort to come to a forum and type in character - more so than just saying whatever is on your mind.

I thought it was quite imaginative to explain thier side of the story from the point of view of the character they portray.

Oh, and I forgot to say. I live with my Master in real life and he is the sweetest guy in the whole world and feels bad if he even bumps into me hard.

Drama mama bo bama, bananarama mo mama, fee fi fo fama, drama!

Believe in spell check..breathe spell check..make spell check your master in all things.

VERY NICE!

just because it's 'consentual' rape doesn't make it alright, Roleplay or not, which was what my intial response to this post was in reference to.


Have I mentioned I'm happy the forums are closing?

Some fucked up people in the world. I'm by no means perfect, but I certainly don't go around glorifying rape, even if it's done consentually.