Something to be Said about Gorean Life
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Lost Newcomb
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08-23-2006 13:57
From: Soh Ree this one does not understand the view point of the strange people who say her Master is bad. girls Master provides food, shelter, clothes, pleasure and in return girl cooks, cleans, runs scrolls for Masters business.
this one had come to the conclusion that the strange people no not of what they speak for it is nothing this girl has experinced.
girl LOVES her Master...... so neeneer Yeah, he can also throw you at 100 men to be raped against your wishes, roleplaying ofcourse. He can also sell you anytime he likes, role playing ofcourse. He can also drive a stake through you, and impale you, role playing ofcourse. He can also scalp you and leave you for the sleen, role playing ofcourse. You are cattle, he has every right to kill you anytime, role playing ofcourse. But real woman who roleplay Gor and many other violent rp's often are depressed and end up doing pretty sad things RL. Like suicide, and.. worse.
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Selador Cellardoor
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08-23-2006 13:58
From: Savonah Madonna
And RAPE by the it's very nature is UNconsentual!
So get a clue. Exactly. Now, think about it. Rape is unconsensual. If a fantasy rape is consensual then it is not rape. Therefore those people comparing the two are making a false correlation. PS: I see you have said this very thing a few posts back. I can't then understand why you have a problem with fantasy rape. |
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Aithne Thatcher
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08-23-2006 13:58
Ok, this one has something to say about the whole gor rape crap.. first off.... NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU JUMP ON A POSEBALL!!! get it??? so they AGREE to it!!..
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Dmitri Polonsky
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08-23-2006 13:58
From: Coyote Momiji Eight years in various BDSM/Gorean chats...
I've seen what you described ONCE.
ONCE.
Eight years.
You must be slumming, darling! Many more than 8 years online in various chats, and I have seen maybe four "masters" ( I use the term loosely) who are not trolling IRL for it, and the practice of the contract sales is quite common. Nice derailing atempt. The fact that I will tell people about it without any fear has gotten me more than a few RL death threats, at which point I tend to revert to my Scottish Ancestry and tell the would be "master" to bring it on. Usually this shuts them up and sends them running to the bathroom to change thier shorts, as none of them is a real master of anything, including themselves. BTW I really din't appreciate the photo of a biker being portrayed as an "avg gorean master" as that is highly innacurate. Most of the time we met people like thatr we call them " wannabes", meaning they are walking an entirely wrong path trying to be something they will never ahve the guts to be. And speaking for myself, my "old lady" knows where the knives are and how to use them and I gota slep sometime, so some respect for women is most defintely due from any man who has even half a brain. |
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mirhanda Tal
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08-23-2006 13:58
From: Savonah Madonna RAPE = forced unconsentual sex.
Gore Rape = Consentual?
Then it's not rape.
For anyone to think Rape is ok is pretty sick. It isn't a matter of anyone trying to do "thought control" by saying they are sick. they are fucked up period!
YOU CAN NOT DEFEND that stand at all. To try is to further prove your mental status. What kind of scum are those who think this is perfectly ok?!
God forbid any of you ever actually be raped in real life. Then, on the bright side you can roleplay the rapist is gore.
*boggles* Sorry to digress, but this is just driving me crazy. The word is consensual. Not consentual. Thanks. Topic: Please try to learn the difference between fantasy and reality. I posted some links way back on page one*, read them and you'll learn something amazing. Fantasy doesn't have anything to do with what you do or how you act in real life. *Or maybe page two, but I can't be arsed to go back and find it. |
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Savonah Madonna
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08-23-2006 14:00
From: Lorelei Patel HALLELUJAH!
You got it (though it's spelled Gor, not Gore).
Not a SINGLE person here has said real rape is groovy. Not one.
That is why I question your ability to understand the difference between the land of make-believe and real life. Well Rape is still forced unconsensual sex and if people believe it's ok anywhere I feel they are seriously screwed up in the head. Real or make believe worlds. AND as stated, If Gor (thanks for the correction) is 'consensual' then catagorizing consensual sex as rape is an incorrect thing to do. It's either rape or consensual sex - it can't be both!
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Hiro Queso
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08-23-2006 14:01
From: Savonah Madonna RAPE = forced unconsentual sex.
Gore Rape = Consentual?
Then it's not rape.
For anyone to think Rape is ok is pretty sick. It isn't a matter of anyone trying to do "thought control" by saying they are sick. they are fucked up period!
YOU CAN NOT DEFEND that stand at all. To try is to further prove your mental status. What kind of scum are those who think this is perfectly ok?! I haven't seen one person say that rape is ok, so you need to take that argument elsewhere, as no one disagrees. From: Savonah Madonna God forbid any of you ever actually be raped in real life. Then, on the bright side you can roleplay the rapist is gore. God forbid you ever feel suicidal, or god forbid that someone you care about is. From: Savonah Madonna *boggles* I wondered what that noise was. |
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Selene Gregoire
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08-23-2006 14:01
From: Elke Banting I've had some "negative" experiences in my life...some of them were while I was quite young. While being "gun-shy" you learn that not every man is a monster; in the same vein, not every Gorean employs shocking behavior. As one poster pointed out, it is consentual and there are safe words should the role play get out of hand for one of the persons involved.
While I am not Gorean and really have no desire to participate in that style of play, I don't condemn any Gorean simply because that's what they're into. That's their thing, I do my thing - I leave them alone, they leave me alone.
<shrug>
PS I do know a couple that's into that style of play and they happen to be very nice people. OMG!!! Someone actually spelled the word consentual right!! *picks jaw up from floor* Oh wait... nevermind. You aren't Gorean.  
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Lost Newcomb
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08-23-2006 14:01
From: Aithne Thatcher Ok, this one has something to say about the whole gor rape crap.. first off.... NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU JUMP ON A POSEBALL!!! get it??? so they AGREE to it!!.. Yeah they can also cage you at will, all consensual right? And you can't do anything cause their laws are above anything else in SL.
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Coyote Momiji
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08-23-2006 14:01
From: Savonah Madonna Well Rape is still forced unconsentual sex and if people believe it's ok anywhere I feel they are seriously screwed up in the head. Real or make believe worlds.
AND as stated, If Gor (thanks for the correction) is 'consentual' then catagorizing consentual sex as rape is an incorrect thing to do. It's either rape or consentual sex - it can't be both! It's roleplay. I'm not a real pirate. I just play one in my bed. Arrr. |
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Lorelei Patel
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08-23-2006 14:01
From: Aithne Thatcher Ok, this one has something to say about the whole gor rape crap.. first off.... NOBODY CAN MAKE YOU JUMP ON A POSEBALL!!! get it??? so they AGREE to it!!.. Girl is getting a bit aggitated. You go, girl!
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Lorelei Patel
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08-23-2006 14:03
From: Savonah Madonna Well Rape is still forced unconsentual sex and if people believe it's ok anywhere I feel they are seriously screwed up in the head. Real or make believe worlds.
AND as stated, If Gor (thanks for the correction) is 'consentual' then catagorizing consentual sex as rape is an incorrect thing to do. It's either rape or consentual sex - it can't be both! ... and that's what we all have been trying to tell you 
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Aithne Thatcher
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08-23-2006 14:03
From: Lost Newcomb Yeah, he can also throw you at 100 men to be raped against your wishes, roleplaying ofcourse.
He can also sell you anytime he likes, role playing ofcourse.
He can also drive a stake through you, and impale you, role playing ofcourse.
He can also scalp you and leave you for the sleen, role playing ofcourse.
You are cattle, he has every right to kill you anytime, role playing ofcourse.
But real woman who roleplay Gor and many other violent rp's often are depressed and end up doing pretty sad things RL. Like suicide, and.. worse. Like you said, roleplay.. they can leave anytime they wish via tp if they don't like it. Or they can log off of sl as well if they don't like what is happening..
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Marcuw Schnook
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08-23-2006 14:03
From: Lorelei Patel I weep more for the abuse of the English language than the abuse of any avatar on SL  Well, to defense of those who cannot write perfect English Grammer (spelling aside), you try yourself to write in a foreign language... I feel sorry for those English speaking people who have been to lazy to try something like Dutch, German, Spanish or even more difficult languages like French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese.. Thinking in one language but writing down in another are 2 different things. Judging by someones ability to write "proper grammar" English is just being shortsightened. |
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Boadi Rigaud
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08-23-2006 14:04
Slightly offtopic.. i don't know much about gor, and i'm definately not into it... but i just love the name of this topic...
"I love my reeeeal life where I'm independent, i don't get raped, and i'm not chattle... but boyhowdy! there's just Something to be Said about Gorean Life!"
*chortle* anyways...
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Coyote Momiji
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08-23-2006 14:05
From: Marcuw Schnook Well, to defense of those who cannot write perfect English Grammer (spelling aside), you try yourself to write in a foreign language...
I feel sorry for those English speaking people who have been to lazy to try something like Dutch, German, Spanish or even more difficult languages like French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese..
Thinking in one language but writing down in another are 2 different things. Judging by someones ability to write "proper grammar" English is just being shortsightened. I think it was more for the third-person slavespeech earlier, Marcuw, though I'm genuinely impressed by anyone who can grasp English after being educated in another language. |
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Aithne Thatcher
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08-23-2006 14:06
From: Lost Newcomb Yeah they can also cage you at will, all consensual right? And you can't do anything cause their laws are above anything else in SL. Yes you can. It's called teleporting. Tp elsewhere if you don't like it. Nobody can stop you from tping.
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Lupus Delacroix
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08-23-2006 14:06
From: mirhanda Tal Literate ones perhaps? Please don't confuse Gor trash novels with literacy, the writing is piss poor, filled with the phrase "he said" and such. Any author that has to resort to literary devices such as that is obviously not capable of painting a mental picture deep enough to encapsulate/draw in the intended readers. I pissed out better work in highschool than he does and he's supposedly works in the further education of youth. |
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Selador Cellardoor
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08-23-2006 14:06
From: Selene Gregoire OMG!!! Someone actually spelled the word consentual right!! *picks jaw up from floor* Oh wait... nevermind. You aren't Gorean. I hate to break it to you, but they didn't. |
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Aithne Thatcher
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08-23-2006 14:07
From: Lorelei Patel Girl is getting a bit aggitated. You go, girl! this one thankies you.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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08-23-2006 14:07
From: Ceera Murakami I am not, by any streach of the imagination, a Gorean. I would not play in a Gorean sim for any reason, in either gender role. Their overall treatment of women apalls me. However, I will state that your poll is missing an important choice.
"Consentual roleplay depicting rape is not the same thing as a real, non-consentual rape."
. You understand it entirely wrong then. In the gorean lifestyle women have no right to consent or refuse, except at the discrection of men. Somehow I don't think a belief in consent by gender at birth qualifies anymore than thier completely uninformed belief in a natural order which does NOT exist in nature. |
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Coyote Momiji
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08-23-2006 14:08
From: Dmitri Polonsky You understand it entirely wrong then. In the gorean lifestyle women have no right to consent or refuse, except at the discrection of men. Somehow I don't think a belief in consent by gender at birth qualifies anymore than thier completely uninformed belief in a natural order which does NOT exist in nature. *lifts a brow* Well, thank heavens that there's no such place as Gor in reality, eh? |
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Vera Vernon
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08-23-2006 14:09
From: Marcuw Schnook Well, to defense of those who cannot write perfect English Grammer (spelling aside), you try yourself to write in a foreign language...
I feel sorry for those English speaking people who have been to lazy to try something like Dutch, German, Spanish or even more difficult languages like French, Russian, Chinese, Japanese..
Thinking in one language but writing down in another are 2 different things. Judging by someones ability to write "proper grammar" English is just being shortsightened. Well as a Polish girl, I agree with you....claps hands.....but why is this topic going on and on....rape by it's nature in Rl is evil....pose balls and SL life are not. if I want to get fucked by 27 men at once, or they 'FORCE' me to in SL, then so be it...but I can also walk away in SL and have nothing to do with it, Which I do. There are far worse things in life than a group gang banged avatar. Thanks darlings....Vera |
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Glory Takashi
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08-23-2006 14:10
From: Coyote Momiji *lifts a brow*
Well, thank heavens that there's no such place as Gor in reality, eh? Yeah he kinda misses the point that it is NOT reality it's roleplay and you can't force roleplay of anykind on someone. And no I don't gore I think the practice or even wanting to practice is deploreable.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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08-23-2006 14:11
From: Aithne Thatcher Yes you can. It's called teleporting. Tp elsewhere if you don't like it. Nobody can stop you from tping. Fine then you tell us how to keep them from inflicting thier beliefs outside Gor sims, up to an including troling and pushing thier NON- consentual beliefs in PG sims along with more than a few occurences of public nudity by the girls at he order of thier masters, while the would be master ( who is realy master of nothing, including his own cowardice) spouts about the "beauty" that is Gor and about honor that they don't seem to have at all. Personally I think Gor should be confined to it's own grid, and while goreans sh9ould be allowed in the main grid thier pushing of thier L/S should be a bannable offense, which technically it already is. |